- ImmortalJoshua
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I started up the heated debate on whether the SPARTAN-II in the cryo tube near the end of Reach is really Linda.
I created the Moa XING avatar pic.
Also I earned the All Star nameplate with this submission to Week 14 All Stars http://www.bungie.net/images/News/Inline11/bwu_0415/art/likea boss.jpg
So throughout the years the number of S-IIs who survived augmentations has increased. There is a small canonical explanation for that but in the end there is a lack of updated information.
Here are all the Spartan-IIs that passed augmentation from The Fall of Reach to Ghosts of Onyx.
James-005 (Was with John above Reach, floated off into space)
Jai-006 (Grey Team)
Li-008 (Died from a huge plasma blast during First Strike in space)
Joshua-029 (Banshee crashed from nuke blast)
Vinh-030 (Delta Red, possible death from blast)
Samuel-034 (first to die)
Randall-037 (Believed to be truley MIA)
Isaac-039 (Delta Red, died with Vinh)
William-043 (Delta Red, but died at Onyx)
Anton-044 (died with with Li)
Kurt-051 (died during Onyx)
Linda-058 (still alive, was with Chief in space)
Malcom-059 (died from pelican Bravo 001 crash)
Sheila-065 (died right before The Package)
Kelly-087 (still alive)
Grace-093 (died in First Strike)
Frederic-104 (still alive)
Adriana-111 (Grey Team)
John-117 (still alive)
Mike-120 (Grey Team)
Beta-Red Actual (Died from Possible MAC Blast during Reach)
Red-15
3 Died with Malcom from Bravo 001 crash
9 Beta Red
3 Unidentifed Delta Red
So far 37 Spartan-IIs survived augmentations. By the time the Fall of Reach occurred.
Grey Team and Randall are MIA and weren't able to be at Reach. Samuel was the first to die with Sheila dying later.
James, Linda and John were above Reach during it's fall.
A total of 27 Spartans were on the ground during the Fall of Reach. 17 Spartans who were at Reach are unnamed and unknown.
With all this information, 37 Spartans survived augmentation, with 12 being crippled with a total of 26 that died from the augmentations.
After Ghosts of Onyx's release, more Spartan-IIs were added to the list of ones that survived the augmentation.
Naomi-010 (still alive)
Daisy-023 (died during Harvest)
Douglas-042 (Spirit of Fire)
Keiichi-047 (Last seen during Harvest campaign)
Jorge-052 (died during Reach)
Maria-062 (started family, unknown)
Solomon-069 (died during The Package)
Arthur-079 (died during The Package)
Jerome-092 (Spirit of Fire)
Victor-101 (Team Black)
Joseph-122 (Escaped after augmentation, caught, unknown after that)
Alice-130 (Spirit of Fire)
Carris-137 (mentioned only in Halsey's journal, unknown if survived augmentations)
Cal-141 (died during Prophet assassination mission)
Black-One (Team Black)
Black-Two (Team Black)
Black-Three (Team Black)
Unidentified Harvest Spartan
Two Unidentified Trainees who committed suicide
This adds onto the list of surviving Spartan-IIs by 20 and reduces the deaths from augmentations to 6.
Obviously we can see the problem here. Now the Fall of Reach as been retconned several times already so 343i could easily just say that the number of S-IIs surviving augs was significantly lower. However this hasn't been stated. Also 343i has established that there was a way to rehabilitate some of the crippled and dead S-IIs.
I do believe I have found a canonical way to increase the number of S-IIs who died from augmentations and to associate it with earlier established canon.
Have Naomi, Keiichi, Joseph, Carris be apart of either Beta Red, Delta Red, or the 3 Spartans who died when Bravo 001 was shot down. either way, this would increase the number of death due to augmentation to 9. If Naomi was apart of Beta Red, she could have made it to the Pelican "Iron Fist" that was on it's way to rescue Beta Red. Since two Spartans committed suicide soon after augmentations, they should go ahead and be considered about of the failed ones so the number is increased to 11. The unidentified Harvest Spartan is retconned to be Daisy so the number of surviving decreases.
This leaves a total of 12 Spartans left. 3 are from the Spirit of Fire, 4 Team Black, and 5 who died before the Fall of Reach. It could be said that the Spirit of Fire somehow gets rescued and the Spartan-IIs on it make it to the Battle of Reach (except Jorge). This though seems a bit to farfetched.
Team Black Spartans could be rehabilitated which would increase the number to 15.
Now there were only a total of 12 Spartans who were crippled during augmentations. 7 are identified. This leaves 5 available to possibly be any of the 12 Spartans above (specifically Team Black and 1 more Spartan.) If this was the case the number would be 16 who died. The other Spartans were mostly alive during the Harvest campaign so I doubt that they could have been apart of the ones that died and were brought back to life. So as far as I can tell they would just be added onto the group that passed augmentations.
So if my suggestion was adopted, this would mean that only 16 died from augmentations with a total of 42 Spartans that either passed the augmentations or were rehabilitated.