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  • 06.03.2006 8:05 PM PDT
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No, you do have to lead them by several feet. Take this from me, i've played FPSs all my life, i can tell where a bullet goes and whether it should have hit. Halo PC bullets will impact on the model, but rarely hit.

  • 06.03.2006 8:18 PM PDT
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I think everyone knows how to aim a gun in a shooter. Get the target in the center of the crosshair and shoot. If you can spawn kill afk's (A Free Kill / Away From Keyboard) then you pretty much mastered this concept but online you HAVE to lead moving targets unless you're hosting the game.

  • 06.03.2006 8:25 PM PDT
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You will always have to lead, netcode may not be as bad as it's cracked up to be, but it's still transmitting data over the net which is subjective to packet loss, latency (lag's fancy word) and more.

You have to transmit data for where you're firing the bullet from your computer to a server, then the server has to send that data down to the person you're about to hits (as well as everyone else so that they know a shot was fired) and then that persons computer must register that it was hit with a bullet, reupload that data send it to the server how much health he lost so that when the next bullet comes around it knows if he's dead or not.

Lenghty process to happen in less than a second is it not!? You must lead because all this can not be expected to happen perfectly every time, sure sometimes you won't need to lead as much because the server can process your requests and broadcasts more efficiently. But the fact remains while you are playing online leading must happen.

Now these are good aiming tips because people don't understand exactly where the bullet will go when they fire, but you still must lead with these weapons, only help this post was is the fact that it tells us where our leaded bullets are going to land ;)

  • 06.03.2006 8:27 PM PDT
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Dude what game are YOU playing?

  • 06.03.2006 8:40 PM PDT
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evilpickle, please, shut up.

  • 06.03.2006 9:24 PM PDT
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I understand that you want people to know how to properly aim, but you taught them the wrong way. You have to lead in Halo multiplayer, nomatter how unlaggy you are. Even if you are hosting your own server, or playing someone else's server which you are close to, you still have to lead your shots a little.

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  • 06.04.2006 4:36 AM PDT
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The 3 holy words of Halo PC Online...

Lead
Your
Shots

The distance you lead depends on your ping (and not on your target's ping as some believe), but you have to lead... always.

'nuff said...

  • 06.04.2006 5:07 AM PDT
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I'm afraid your post is either badly researched, or just plain lies.

I'm currently playing with a T1 linked connection over a college server, and still need to lead on any moving target by about 1-2 cm onscreen consistently with pistol, especially targets on foot. Bear in mind I have a high consistent 3 shot kill by strafing the same direction as the target and firing off-target, and the hits are consistently always on target if it keeps moving the same direction.

Before I went to university, I was using a dialup connection and had to lead my shots by about an inch to hit - I was still a decent player back then and got kills by firing off-center by about an inch.

The best test/demonstration of the lag in netcode is this: get a friend in another country on an empty server, get a sticky grenade and get him to fly by in a banshee. Aim for the tail section of the shee, and if correctly done, TWO plama grenades will show up, one on the banshee and one on the floor - the one on the floor will explode and not the one on the banshee. This is because your computer registered the grenade to have hit the banshee, but the server did not, and only the server grenade counts for damage - you APPEAR to have hit the banshee with your direct fire, but in actual fact it did nothing. To kill it, lead with the sticky and be rewarded to see two plasma nades on the banshee, then watch your friend explode.

  • 06.04.2006 7:46 AM PDT

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*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

The ONLY time you dont have to lead your shots is IF you are the host, that and campaign.

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  • 06.04.2006 7:57 AM PDT
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Even in campaign I've noticed some shots don't register as hits. Very aggravating.

  • 06.04.2006 8:19 AM PDT
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Not true, my friend hosts a server regularly (he doesn't have decent internet but still hosts anyways xD) and he still has to lead, simply for the fact that I stated above, no matter what even if you are a host it takes TIME to transmit data, it may take less then a milisecond to transfer something inside your computer, you won't need to lead NEARLY as much, but you have to receive the data from your client, theres just a few steps removed , which means less leading.

You must lead, even if you were playing over an OC3 connection as if it were a lan, you'd still need to lead.

Don't listen to this evil pickle, lead your shots :P but learn how to properly aim your leaded shots xD

  • 06.04.2006 8:20 AM PDT

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Posted by: Iggwilv

*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

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Not true, my friend hosts a server regularly (he doesn't have decent internet but still hosts anyways xD) and he still has to lead, simply for the fact that I stated above, no matter what even if you are a host it takes TIME to transmit data, it may take less then a milisecond to transfer something inside your computer, you won't need to lead NEARLY as much, but you have to receive the data from your client, theres just a few steps removed , which means less leading.

You must lead, even if you were playing over an OC3 connection as if it were a lan, you'd still need to lead.

Don't listen to this evil pickle, lead your shots :P but learn how to properly aim your leaded shots xD


what you are talking about is not the same as leading your shot because of lag, what you are talking about affects everything inthe world. Every program and every action you take on your computer there is an inherent delay. It goes without saying. And if anything, it is the time it takes for your to click the mouse button.

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Even in campaign I've noticed some shots don't register as hits. Very aggravating.


It's just a bad port. One time I was shooting someone standing still and I was standing still, i shot him in the head 4 times(no need to lead for someone standing still) and not ONE of the shots just registered.

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  • 06.04.2006 8:33 AM PDT
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No, you do have to lead them by several feet. Take this from me, i've played FPSs all my life, i can tell where a bullet goes and whether it should have hit. Halo PC bullets will impact on the model, but rarely hit.


yes you do, halo has terrible netcode. Even if your ping was 20, you would still have to lead them.

  • 06.04.2006 8:47 AM PDT
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I don't understand why people say that you only have to lead your shots with a sniper because of laggy netcode. I know this has nothing to do with the conversation, but Bungie made it that way. That way it requires skill to kill people. That is also why getting a sniper headshot is so much cooler in Halo PC, because you need to lead to hit a small target. Yeah...so thats my short rant about the idiots on Halo who think it's because of laggy netcode. You would have to lead anyway.

  • 06.04.2006 8:49 AM PDT
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Claps for EvilPickles! Thank you Pickles, I didn't need help aiming but I say it in name of all new players. ; )

  • 06.04.2006 11:40 AM PDT
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David (EvilPickles)! I understand that you want people to know how to properly aim, but you taught them the wrong way. You have to lead in Halo multiplayer, nomatter how unlaggy you are. Even if you are hosting your own server, or playing someone else's server which you are close to, you still have to lead your shots a little.

Please don't teach my clan members this...they already got through their first semester of accuracy training, they know all about leading now. And considering you joined my clan like 2 days ago, I guess I'll have to go through 1st semester with you...


/reports for sprading rumors. I am not in your clan, my name is not david, please shut your ignorant mouth. I am not in any clan, clans are for jerks.

I have a cable connection, It has 100 M bits per second, I do not have to lead to aim. Hell, I may even record this and prove it. Indeed, if you aim with the center of the crosshair, you will score a hit. Some may not register, but if you are even more accurate it will hit more. What I said about the ghost crosshair is indeed true, I've tried it. Same goes for the pistol, I must apologize about the FRG I did not have time to test it as I wrote this, I didn't want to. I am directly for a persons head with the center of the crosshair, my particle effects are off, I'm not seeing where the pistols are hitting, but the damage confirmation beep is indeed going off. Scan your computer for malware and viruses, this will drastically increase your accuracy and hit count. I can actually snipe now, by aiming directly for a persons head. Vehicles are something you do need to lead though, halo seems to have been updated, when I snipe someone their shield flare but don't go down, but If I hit them a second time they will go down.

God I hate people who steal/copy other's names... I've had this one for years.

EDIT: yes you DO have to lead if you're in a vehicle, or shooting at a vehicle, and that vehicle is traveling at top speed.


Really? Well, I am terribly sorry for that incompetent mistake, the guy who joined two days ago had the same username as yours. Once again, I apologize, but I have to say, give us a video of you playing HaloPC, because maybe you accidently mistook HaloPC for Halo1Xbox, due to the "no leading and auto-aim" feature in Xbox Halo games. But if are are really playing HaloPC show us the video of you hitting and killing opponents by aiming your reticle right in the middle of the opponent while they're strafing, because there is absolutely no possible way you can aim, especially with the sniper rifle, by not leading. Everything you "attempted" to teach us is total bull. Thank you and have a nice day.

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  • 06.04.2006 12:02 PM PDT
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Unless you host a server that is. The server tells everyone were they are. You send information about your direction and speed, but the server tells you were you are, if you are in a vehicle, if you shot, if you shot someone, if you missed, if you got hurt. Therefore, if you are a server host, you do not have to lead due to lag. You have to lead so they get into the path of the bullet.

Having tested lag and leading, I can say that you have no idea what you are talking about. If you aim for the middle of the reticle, you will miss unless you are the host. Period. No buts. No ifs. No exceptions.

  • 06.04.2006 12:45 PM PDT
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EvilPickles, yes please, name a time, we will meet up on a random server and you can shoot that video.

  • 06.04.2006 1:19 PM PDT

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