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Subject: Halo has no competition

Is it me, or does it seem like all these giant corporations are selling out to Microsoft? Think about it, first Bungie split ties and left them their Halo creation. Then EA drives the Mass Effect series to the ground with the imposed deadline on BioWare, forcing them into a rushed and suckish ending.

Now Black Ops II was announced as a futuristic setting disappointing a lot of CoD fans. It seems like they're wiping the slate clean of any competition for Halo, so it can prolong Microsoft's continued monopolistic domination of the corporate videogame oligarchy.

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  • 05.02.2012 2:30 PM PDT
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I think CoD will sell in huge numbers (just like always).
The only thing is that Halo 4 doesn't have a lot of popularity.
There are no huge campaigns around it and even I, being quite a Halo fan, am not really excited for it (in the same way I was for the previous Halo's).

I think 343i waited too long before giving something away about H4.

[Edited on 05.02.2012 2:45 PM PDT]

  • 05.02.2012 2:44 PM PDT

Posted by: Tomvl117
I think CoD will sell in huge numbers (just like always).
The only thing is that Halo 4 doesn't have a lot of popularity.
There are no huge campaigns around it and even I, being quite a Halo fan, am not really excited for it (in the same way I was for the previous Halo's).

I think 343i waited too long before giving something away about H4.


I was thinking this would happen as well, but I think Halo 4 is going to outperform CODBO2 and everything else, call it intuition or a creeping feeling but it seems like Halo 4 and its sequels are just going to totally dominate the video game industry for the next 10 years.

  • 05.02.2012 2:52 PM PDT

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I'm not thrilled about H4 so far. For the first time I'm looking for other games instead.

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  • 05.02.2012 3:02 PM PDT

What about E3? Halo 4 can release some stuff then.

  • 05.02.2012 3:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: Tomvl117
I think CoD will sell in huge numbers (just like always).
The only thing is that Halo 4 doesn't have a lot of popularity.
There are no huge campaigns around it and even I, being quite a Halo fan, am not really excited for it (in the same way I was for the previous Halo's).

I think 343i waited too long before giving something away about H4.


I was thinking this would happen as well, but I think Halo 4 is going to outperform CODBO2 and everything else, call it intuition or a creeping feeling but it seems like Halo 4 and its sequels are just going to totally dominate the video game industry for the next 10 years.

That could happen indeed, but they need to attract a lot of attention in a very short amount of time if they want to surpass BO2.

[Edited on 05.02.2012 3:03 PM PDT]

  • 05.02.2012 3:03 PM PDT
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I just hope M$ manage to learn from their mistake of having Bungie make an entire portion of a level for a specific event and then releasing a newer version as a demo with no save and quit and no skulls.

Seriously, LNoS's mission start and first space battle are horrific.

  • 05.02.2012 5:14 PM PDT

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BOII looks fukkin stupid!

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  • 05.02.2012 7:49 PM PDT

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Yeah, I wish Halo didn't have competition.

Or if even Halo did...


FORTUNATELY, WE HAVE 343I KINDLY HELPING US BY MAKING CALL OF HALO 4

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  • 05.02.2012 7:54 PM PDT

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Meh. I'm more excited for Bungies next project

  • 05.02.2012 9:56 PM PDT
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Meh. I'm more excited for Bungies next project

Me too. And it hasn't even been announced yet.
That kind of shows how excited we are for H4.

  • 05.03.2012 2:39 AM PDT

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Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Posted by: Tomvl117
I think CoD will sell in huge numbers (just like always).
The only thing is that Halo 4 doesn't have a lot of popularity.
There are no huge campaigns around it and even I, being quite a Halo fan, am not really excited for it (in the same way I was for the previous Halo's).

I think 343i waited too long before giving something away about H4.


I was thinking this would happen as well, but I think Halo 4 is going to outperform CODBO2 and everything else, call it intuition or a creeping feeling but it seems like Halo 4 and its sequels are just going to totally dominate the video game industry for the next 10 years.


Well, quite frankly, I would rather have Halo dominating than Call of Duty. That may be going for the lesser of two evils, but given the choice between Halo and Call of Duty, there is no choice.

However, if Halo gets to a point where it seriously affects the creation and success a new game series of due to its own "domination," it would become a problem.

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  • 05.03.2012 6:49 AM PDT
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Posted by: Tomvl117
I think CoD will sell in huge numbers (just like always).
The only thing is that Halo 4 doesn't have a lot of popularity.
There are no huge campaigns around it and even I, being quite a Halo fan, am not really excited for it (in the same way I was for the previous Halo's).
I think at least some of that's probably true for everyone who's been with the franchise since the beginning. I remember how stoked I was for Halo 2, and I dropped every dime I had at the time on the Legendary edition for Halo 3. By comparison, I can't remember off the top of my head what Halo 4's release date is.

Part of it may be the relative dearth of media despite the fact that we're, what, less than seven months out? Waypoint's only got three or four screenshots, and to my knowledge they're not really feeding out information beyond a couple of vids. Part of it could also be the fact that we're all here, rather than on the Waypoint forums. And some of us have probably just lost interest. I'm so behind on the peripheral elements of the Halo Universe that I've essentially given up, and I'm just waiting for Bungie to roll out Destiny so I can try and stay caught up from the beginning.

I think 343i waited too long before giving something away about H4. Probably also true, at least to some extent. It could also just be that we're all ready for something different. We've had almost eleven years of Halo. Bungie figured out right around Halo 3 that they wanted do something new. Maybe the community's starting to feel that now, too. Hell, even the major overhauls 343i's giving the franchise could be indicators that they've perceived this and are looking to make things different enough to keep people interested.

More on the topic at hand;
I don't necessarily think it's a competition, and I'm sure the people who are actually making the games don't feel that way, either. Any Bungie employees floating around can confirm or deny this, but I'm guessing that they don't go to work every day thinking, "Okay, how can we run those sons of whores who make CoD into soul-crushing bankruptcy?" That may be how the publishers think, particularly in their higher corporate echelons, but down in the trenches I'm guessing there's a certain degree of brotherhood.
And it's not like the people at 343i want the only enjoyable game around to be the one they made. Think of how boring that would be. I'm sure they'd really rather play CoD or Gears, simply on the fact that they can enjoy those games as games, not work. Not to say they don't play their own games, just that I'm sure they play, and want to play, other studios' games as well.

  • 05.03.2012 8:53 AM PDT

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This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
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:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

I didn't know it was a crime against humanity to change.

  • 05.03.2012 9:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: Sliding Ghost
Seriously, LNoS's mission start and first space battle are horrific.


Agreed. Everything in Reach's campaign seemed like a cheap attempt to rip off what they did right in Halo CE and 2. The opening of LNoS clearly being an attempt to recreate the 'storm the beach' aspect of The Silent Cartographer, Nightfall being a shocking redux of The Truth and Reconciliation etc etc.

That's what I hate about prequels, they rely way too much on trying to recreate their original vision and instead end up crashing and burning...

  • 05.03.2012 10:03 AM PDT