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Subject: Halo 2 ODSTs possibly different division?

I started up the heated debate on whether the SPARTAN-II in the cryo tube near the end of Reach is really Linda.
I created the Moa XING avatar pic.
Also I earned the All Star nameplate with this submission to Week 14 All Stars http://www.bungie.net/images/News/Inline11/bwu_0415/art/likea boss.jpg

In a way I don't want there to be a graphical updated version of Halo 2 because I like the design of the Halo 2 ODSTs.
The "Helljumpers" are simply apart of the 105th Shock Troops Division. "Bullfrogs" are specially trained with jet packs and are most likely a different division. I'd like to think the Halo 2 ODSTs are also from a different division.

Halo 2 ODSTs
Standard Helljumper
Bullfrogs

ODSTs are already wearing armor that spanned from the MJOLNIR program such as GUNGNIR armor. I actually find it interesting that various pieces of armor from Reach bear a resemblance to the Halo 2 ODST armor.
My idea is that Halo 2 ODSTs are wearing a new variant of the armor. They are equipped with AA helmets, GUNGNIR shoulders, and various other pieces of new armor. Though it's also possible the armor their wearing is meant for quick deployment. It's not vacuum sealed and is meant to be put on quickly in the event of an emergency.
Though I like the idea that they're wearing experimental armor. The ODST armor that has become popular with Halo is seen as far back as 2540.

[Edited on 05.02.2012 3:50 PM PDT]

  • 05.02.2012 3:50 PM PDT

Vengeance only leads to an ongoing cycle of hatred.

I'm pretty sure it only has to do with the design they chose and doesn't have any canonical reasoning.

  • 05.02.2012 3:59 PM PDT
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It's best not to have high hopes for H2 Anniversary. Look at CEA.

Not enough dedication put into campaign. Not the exact feel. Half the skulls were redundant, contributing more to difficulty than fun/recreation.

Mp still had the blemishes of Reach's mp, particularly low invisible barriers and 10 second countdowns.

The worst case scenario is H2 Anniversary being based on Halo 2 Vista. That alone would ruin it, though the mp might not be too bad.

Campaign would have been more interesting if there were some changes. Think about it this way:

-original Xbox campaign (perhaps with graphics switching)
-modified campaign with graphics switching

Both existing in the same game. Sure it would mean increasing the price (at least a $10 increase) but it would eliminate the need for a hard drive to play the original and it would provide those who don't have the Xbox game with it.

[Edited on 05.02.2012 6:06 PM PDT]

  • 05.02.2012 6:01 PM PDT

I started up the heated debate on whether the SPARTAN-II in the cryo tube near the end of Reach is really Linda.
I created the Moa XING avatar pic.
Also I earned the All Star nameplate with this submission to Week 14 All Stars http://www.bungie.net/images/News/Inline11/bwu_0415/art/likea boss.jpg

wtf does that have to do with different ODST divisions?

  • 05.02.2012 8:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sliding Ghost
It's best not to have high hopes for H2 Anniversary. Look at CEA.

Not enough dedication put into campaign. Not the exact feel. Half the skulls were redundant, contributing more to difficulty than fun/recreation.

Mp still had the blemishes of Reach's mp, particularly low invisible barriers and 10 second countdowns.

The worst case scenario is H2 Anniversary being based on Halo 2 Vista. That alone would ruin it, though the mp might not be too bad.

Campaign would have been more interesting if there were some changes. Think about it this way:

-original Xbox campaign (perhaps with graphics switching)
-modified campaign with graphics switching

Both existing in the same game. Sure it would mean increasing the price (at least a $10 increase) but it would eliminate the need for a hard drive to play the original and it would provide those who don't have the Xbox game with it.


What? This guy was talking about ODST's. Halo CE skulls were made up. Halo 2 had skulls in it to make the game harder not for recreation?

OT: I think that the Halo 2 ODST's are they best looking.

  • 05.02.2012 9:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: COLONELSANDERSW
What? This guy was talking about ODST's.
I was replying to this: "In a way I don't want there to be a graphical updated version of Halo 2".

Posted by: COLONELSANDERSW
Halo CE skulls were made up.
And did they spice up gameplay? Make gameplay more interesting?

Pinata, Bandanna, Boom did.

Grunt Funeral was preorder but it did.

Grunt Birthday was just graphical but it did.

The others took away from CE's gameplay (in addition to changing it for the worst), not adding anything and were focused on difficulty: Eye Patch, Recession, Malfunction, Foreign

The classic skulls also took away from CE's gameplay but some of them made gameplay more interesting (Famine, Fog, Black Eye).

Posted by: COLONELSANDERSW
Halo 2 had skulls in it to make the game harder not for recreation?
Black Eye has 2 levels of overshield.
Envy grants Chief cloaking.
Sputnik should be obvious.
Grunt Birthday affects any AI and the explosion does damage.
Thunderstorm makes every Elite Ultra, making them easier to kill. It also means better friendly AI.
Angry makes AI overheat their guns faster and also affects friendly AI.
Armory also affects friendly AI and can sometimes make it easier to manipulate enemy AI.
Assassins can also affect friendly AI.

Also, H2 SLASO isn't impossible. A few have completed 1 or 2 missions single segment and a few have completed more than 4 missions segmented. Sputnik and Black Eye make a lethal combo and for most Elites, you only need plasma grenades. In other words, H2 SLASO allows you to take the fight to the enemy and bring enemies at a time to your position. For the boss fights, it's just a matter of finding a safe area.

[Edited on 05.02.2012 9:53 PM PDT]

  • 05.02.2012 9:47 PM PDT

In the massive galaxy-spanning interstellar empire that is the UNSC, there are probably more than one or two models of infantry armour.

[Edited on 05.03.2012 10:52 AM PDT]

  • 05.03.2012 10:50 AM PDT

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I thought they could be a different division, maybe a special ops team or whatever

  • 05.03.2012 12:25 PM PDT

Exact science, is not an exact science.

Think this is going to happen!!

  • 05.04.2012 4:22 AM PDT

I started up the heated debate on whether the SPARTAN-II in the cryo tube near the end of Reach is really Linda.
I created the Moa XING avatar pic.
Also I earned the All Star nameplate with this submission to Week 14 All Stars http://www.bungie.net/images/News/Inline11/bwu_0415/art/likea boss.jpg


Posted by: Sigma617
After seeing the Air Assault helmet in Halo Reach, I'd always assumed that the 405th detachment that hot jumped to Delta Halo were wearing it.


It's details like that, accident or not, that truly impress me.


Is that the actual division of those ODSTs? I looked up 405th and there's no mention of ODSTs being apart of them.

  • 05.05.2012 9:02 PM PDT

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This is akin to why Master Chief's armorer subtly changes throughout the games. I don't think it's intended to have any canon meaning.

  • 05.06.2012 1:03 PM PDT

I started up the heated debate on whether the SPARTAN-II in the cryo tube near the end of Reach is really Linda.
I created the Moa XING avatar pic.
Also I earned the All Star nameplate with this submission to Week 14 All Stars http://www.bungie.net/images/News/Inline11/bwu_0415/art/likea boss.jpg

Possible, but many of the designs from Halo 2 were kept into Halo 3 but with better graphics. Halo 2 ODSTs were one of the few things to change.

  • 05.06.2012 1:52 PM PDT