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Subject: A problem with the location of the Forerunner construct in the trai...

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Well, the structure, as it just so happens, is located on the eastern edge of the Great Rift Valley of East Africa. The problem here is that the Great Rift Valley is frought with high levels of seismic activity as it is a region where the continent of Africa is being torn apart by geological forces, thus creating a long chain of lakes. It seems to me that such a geologically unstable region would lend itself to causing severe damge to constructs hidden within the Earth's crust. Granted the construct is on the East coast of the continent, that region is still relatively unstable and has been tearing itself from the continent of Africa for many millenia. It is believed that the Red Sea was also created by such a rift, and there is strong evidence that other rifts are appearing further inland of the Great Rift Valley. Doesn't seem like a good place for an ancient construct, if you ask me. It's a cool location though.

[Edited on 6/3/2006]

  • 06.03.2006 8:45 PM PDT
Subject: A slight problem with the location of the Forerunner construct in t...

Its a game.
Forerunner stuff is very strong too BTW.

  • 06.03.2006 8:47 PM PDT

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you know, they did totally destroy a halo with just an explosion of a fusion reactor. Many thousands of years of earthquakes are gonna play heel with any sturcture, no matter how strong.

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thst alot of detail to research, but one thing....what did it take to blow up a forerunner facility? A HUGE AZZ EXPLOSION! a core breach blew up halo and its relatively thin and unsupported ( compared to its size ). that facility looks to be more of a structure and has many supports, plus you dont see africa blowing up everyday.

  • 06.03.2006 8:49 PM PDT

The explosion triggered a chain reaction through the Halo's weak parts. Something along those lines.
Again, its just a game.

  • 06.03.2006 8:50 PM PDT

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I know it's just a game. I'm not complaining. It's just a professional critque from a scientific standpoint.

  • 06.03.2006 8:51 PM PDT
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i agree, its a game, bungie = god for the game, then bungie can make it invincible for all they care.

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do you have the collectors edition of halo 2? if so go back to the book that came with it and read about the guys who find the forerunner structure and they cant even scratch it with futuristic explosives so a little bit of siezmic activity shouldn't hurt it too much.

  • 06.03.2006 8:54 PM PDT

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The thing is, it's not a little bit of seismic activity. It is a helluva lot of seismic activity. Look at how old the forerunner constructs are. it's been there since before there were civilizations, since man was just a bunch of apes living in trees. Eventually that kind of stress is gonna do some damage. Explosives are different matter entirely. They employ hit and concussive force, and even radiation, to do their work. Granted Forerunner technology is fairly insulated against such abuse. Hundreds of thousands of years of quakes, subsurface movement of water and other geological factors are gonna take their tole. The structure is fixed in the ground. if the ground moves unevenly, the structure is gonna move unevenly. All materials have resonance, and if in a fixed matrix any movement will cause damage.

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The problem here is that the Great Rift Valley is frought with high levels of seismic activity as it is a region where the continent of Africa is being torn apart by geological forces, thus creating a long chain of lakes. It seems to me that such a geologically unstable region would lend itself to causing severe damge to constructs hidden within the Earth's crust...

i know it is a "fictional" game but,

*ITS THE FUTURE* the land scape could have changed!
maybe due to over 400 years of crazy African weather, the Geological forces could have eroded back to the chain lakes...

or that spot, could be a dried up lake.

[Edited on 6/3/2006]

  • 06.03.2006 9:00 PM PDT

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It still doesn't make the structure safe from geological forces, which don't necessarilly stop in a short period of time. The rifts in Africa have always been there and have been shaping the continent since the break up of Pangaea. I'm just trying to point out that it is something to consider. the structure may not be in pristine condition. It could be an interesting environment to play in.

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well considering the OTHER fact that the Covenent have transparent shields on most everything [every elite's armer, every jackels arm, doors...],
maybe they put a dome over and under the complex to protect it from weather.

Fact prooving my point:
the Grunts home planet is a gas ball, [airgo: their gas containers on their backs] is probable got messed up weather too... so if the Covenent had treach them, they somehow could protect themselves

This is all hipothetical though.

[Edited on 6/3/2006]

  • 06.03.2006 9:19 PM PDT

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I believe that it would be very hard to destroy halo but if you look at the way that halo 1 was destroyed it does kinda make sense...

cuz the explosion from the pillar of autum would have bounced of the walls of halo multiplying the force of the explosion...and then all the did was crack halo, then it destroyed it self because 1 piece cracked into another piece, etc

  • 06.03.2006 9:27 PM PDT
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Maybe, but it is a Forerunner construction so it would probably have Sentinals to maintan it, We see with the Structures in H2 that if the Structure has Sentinals then it tends to stay in a relatively perfect condition due to constant repairs.



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  • 06.03.2006 9:50 PM PDT
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Or maybe the forerunners created the Great Rift Vally! ZMOGWTFBBQ, THEY CREATED AFRICA, OMGZ I JUST REALIZED IT! NO WAY, OMGOMGOFG, THEY CREATED THE ENTIRE EARTH! ZOMG HALO3 ROCKZ!!! ...oh, sorry, did I get carried away there? Eh, anyways, that's weird, but it's all just a game, so I wouldn't think to much of it.

  • 06.03.2006 9:54 PM PDT
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Well, if the Ark (if that is what the structure in the trailer is) is supposed to protect the people inside of it, I think that the Forerunners would make it with the toughest things they have, they probably had seismic activity in mind when making it, and probably made some precautions to keep it together for many millenia. Plus, even if it's not for protecting people, it's still a really important structure and they are gonna try to keep it intact. And the reason that Halo blew up so easily is because it's basically just a research facility, they aren't going to make it indestructable, or anything near that. It was just a place to contain the Flood on, not to really hold together.

  • 06.03.2006 9:59 PM PDT

I do not think Halo was build to survive such an immence bang, but once The Piller Of Autumn exploded it must have torn a hole in the Halo and caused a chain reaction.
The reactor expoding did not destroy Halo the exposive interior of Halo destroyed itself,
Think about all the weopon systems in Halo the Autumn would have set of!

[Edited on 6/3/2006]

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THIS GAME IS 500YRS IN THE FUTURE. im pretty sure the geological surroundings would have changed in that time

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  • 06.04.2006 2:39 AM PDT
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Well maybe the dome caused those seismic activites? Maybe those inside it, if there is someone inside it, wanted to open it but because of all that dirt on top of it was to heavy, it didn't open, so they try again and again and again, and now finally, someone took a shovel and dug them up

  • 06.04.2006 2:59 AM PDT

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THIS GAME IS 500YRS IN THE FUTURE. im pretty sure the geological surroundings would have changed in that time


Geological time frames operate in the millions of years range not just a few hundred. The geological situation is going to be the same in 500 years.

I'm just saying that it's possible that the Forerunner construct might have incurred damage as a result of local seismic activity and as a result the interior may prove to be damaged. It'd be an interesting and hazardous environment to play in. So many people are all about the idea that Forerunner structures are virtually indestructible. Nothing is indestructible, everything has resonance and can breakdown and will degrade. And I doubt very much that there are sentinels maintaining the Forerunner structure in the trailer. We probably would've seen them coming out of it like an angry hoarde of bees to protect the structure, much like they do in Halo 2.

[Edited on 6/5/2006]

  • 06.05.2006 8:33 AM PDT

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THIS GAME IS 500YRS IN THE FUTURE. im pretty sure the geological surroundings would have changed in that time


Geological time frames operate in the millions of years range not just a few hundred. The geological situation is going to be the same in 500 years.

I'm just saying that it's possible that the Forerunner construct might have incurred damage as a result of local seismic activity and as a result the interior may prove to be damaged. It'd be an interesting and hazardous environment to play in. So many people are all about the idea that Forerunner structures are virtually indestructible. Nothing is indestructible, everything has resonance and can breakdown and will degrade. And I doubt very much that there are sentinels maintaining the Forerunner structure in the trailer. We probably would've seen them coming out of it like an angry hoarde of bees to protect the structure, much like they do in Halo 2.


POSIBILTY: the ark is broken. the flood cannot be defeated. the light in the trailer dims after the trailer finishes.

  • 06.05.2006 8:52 AM PDT
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good points but
1. its a game
and 2. mayb its the structure that causes the activity (dont get all technical on me, just refer to point 1)

  • 06.05.2006 9:31 AM PDT

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Well I know it's a game. A lot of people keep saying that. No offense, but it's getting tiresome. I'd like to point out that Bungie does a lot of research on the real elements that they add to a game. For instance the layout of New Mombasa is based on the actual city of Mombasa. The advanced physics engine for Halo 2 required a lot of research to make it more realistic. Aviation. Military tactics that were employed into the AI code for both the Covenant and the Marines/ODSTs. Bungie is pretty good about research and making elements in their games as realistic as possible. Just consider the possibilities.

Previously a comment was mentioned about the Flood. I doubt there are Flood in the Forerunner construct in Halo 3. If that were the case we'd have already had to deal with the Flood in the Halo universe on earth.

  • 06.05.2006 11:14 AM PDT

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