- jack0fhearts
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"Where ere thou hast been, here or in yon world manifest? Canst thou tell what is, or what was, or what is to come? No thing shall last. Yet there are some things that will never change. History is written in blood, yet are battles really lost on the battlefield? Canst thou tell me where thou comest, and where thou goest, and what is, or what was, or what will be? For everything remains, AS IT NEVER WAS."
Posted by: grey101
The radiation is a clear mistake and we all accepted that soon as the game came out.
And in John's case? How many "mistakes" are we to overlook to "prove" one character dead?
Jorge is dead for the last time. When people bring up facts against that you try hiding behind "It is my theory and i am not saying it is 100 percent" yet you fell the need to try forcing that on people and posting it everywhere you can.
Until we see a body or a member of Bungie and/or 343i clearly say that Jorge is dead, then I'm sorry, but it's not a fact. You say that I'm "hiding" behind the fact that it's a theory of a possibility, yet every nay-sayer is then "hiding" behind the Essential Guide and assumptions. Forcing on people? No. If there's strong enough evidence against it, then I would accept that. Yet so far, any evidence brought to support death is either just as reliant on assumption and speculation, or it's contradicted by several other instances in the canon.
Hell, if I was any more of a nut I'd begin to think that all this "leap to denial" of even the possibility of survival is a fan conspiracy to erase all traces of Reach.
You are the only person on both forums to constantly state he is alive after we see what happens.
I state the possibility that he's alive. And I've actually seen a few more people comment with the same, just less "studied," as it were. Yeah, we all see what happens, but it would be like seeing the In Amber Clad disappear in New Mombasa, and having never seen them again assume that they're all dead. Or maybe like the crew of the Spirit of Fire. We never see them again, and so most have assumed that they're dead. But we don't know for a fact. Or it would be as though there was no Epilogue cutscene in Halo 3. Did you know that there were several people who skipped the credits of Halo 3, and actually did assume that John was dead?
You are suppose to go through a slipspace portal not have one form over you
Never mind, I got it. Yes, true, you're supposed to. But see here's the thing: The In Amber Clad and a good portion of the city of New Mombasa had that happen to them. All that was inside the portal was transported as is - buildings were intact unless partially covered, in which case that segment inside was transported. It's not like an explosion where the Ardent Prayer would have been blown to bits. It simply would have been one moment it's in normal space, and the next (upon activation of the FTL drive,) it would have been in slipspace.
not to mention i don't understand why you would think it had a destination that would have it survive.
As far as I understand, slipspace portals are all basically "wormholes." There's a Point A and a Point B. There had to be an exit point, it's just the jump made with the FTL drive of the Savannah was very likely randomized. This would mean that the Ardent Prayer and the rubble of the Long Night of Solace are in an unknown location.
[Edited on 05.04.2012 7:19 PM PDT]