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Subject: Now that Bungie is separated from Microsoft, will sign in change?

New Zealand

What I mean is, will Bungie.net always continue to sign us in using Windows Live IDs?

As far as I know that's only for Microsoft's own sites, so will we have to upgrade our accounts or something at some stage?

I ask because I feel like, as our sign ins are through Microsoft, Bungie doesn't have any record of our passwords etc. So for Bungie to automatically migrate our accounts, they'd either have to get information such as passwords from Microsoft, or keep using Windows Live sign in. Both of which don't seem plausible to me.

  • 05.03.2012 9:03 AM PDT

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#moap

No need to change the sign-in system.

  • 05.03.2012 9:06 AM PDT

New Zealand

Actually, I just realised we'd probably get emailed new, unique default passwords. Crisis averted, I'll calm down now.

  • 05.03.2012 9:06 AM PDT

Dazarobbo is a big supporter of this feature changing. Who knows? If they make changing e-mails and keeping the same account easier, or even possible, I sure as hell would do it.

  • 05.03.2012 9:09 AM PDT

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I really hope they don't. The e-mail account linked to this account is a college account that I no longer have access to.

  • 05.03.2012 9:12 AM PDT

New Zealand

You can change linked email can't you?

  • 05.03.2012 9:15 AM PDT

All I care about is my verified Email for Bungie to contact me on, so my sign in email isn't a huge concern for me. Therefore I won't go meddling into it and undoubtedly mess something up.
Posted by: Kiwi Noob
You can change linked email can't you?

  • 05.03.2012 9:20 AM PDT

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Posted by: Saint of Taint
No need to change the sign-in system.
I would really like bungie.net to stop using the windows live sign-in. My university email uses windows live and I can't check both my email and the forums at the same time!

  • 05.03.2012 9:31 AM PDT
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Posted by: the squee masta
Posted by: Saint of Taint
No need to change the sign-in system.
I would really like bungie.net to stop using the windows live sign-in. My university email uses windows live and I can't check both my email and the forums at the same time!


Or Windows Live should just implement a multiple sign in thing like Google does.

  • 05.03.2012 9:41 AM PDT

La-hoo, Za-her.

I was wondering this myself. I bet Activision isn't too happy about them still using a Microsoft sign-in system.

  • 05.03.2012 9:54 AM PDT

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Different browsers at once?
Posted by: the squee masta
Posted by: Saint of Taint
No need to change the sign-in system.
I would really like bungie.net to stop using the windows live sign-in. My university email uses windows live and I can't check both my email and the forums at the same time!

  • 05.03.2012 10:03 AM PDT

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Well, once they release the new hawtness, the sign in process will be even more simple.

No e-mail address.

No passwords.

just provide a small, small DNA sample and you're in. No more need to worry about hackers guessing that password. they'd have to genetically clone you to break into your account.

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  • 05.03.2012 11:32 AM PDT
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I've posted about this a lot, and in fact there was a thread about this a few days ago where I voiced my thoughts. The question seems to be coming up more and more lately.

Saint, why exactly don't you want it to change? I assume that the migration for legacy users would keep your WLID linked (with, potentially, the option to unlink it later), and either send an email to the email address you have listed in your profile or just make you enter a new password the first time you log in after the new system is live.

  • 05.03.2012 11:40 AM PDT

I think a dedicated login with the ability to link other accounts would make the most sense.

  • 05.03.2012 11:41 AM PDT

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The Windows Live ID is simply a service and is irrelevant to Bungie's departure from Microsoft. Basically, it doesn't affect anything; however if I recall correctly Bungie might be changing the login systems.

[Edited on 05.03.2012 11:45 AM PDT]

  • 05.03.2012 11:45 AM PDT

http://thexboxnetwork.com

I think the smoothest transition would be to just have a carbon copy of all the current emails/passwords from WLID and insert it to their own database. Then remove and replace the WLID with the new one where you would just login with the same email/password(that was copied) as before. It seems like this idea has done nothing, but through this system we can still login with the same details but unattached to WLID. (Gamertags and PSID will have to just be inserted via plugins. New users would just register with email.)

Good idea? No? Okay.

  • 05.03.2012 11:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: Gl0ry Jo3
I think the smoothest transition would be to just have a carbon copy of all the current emails/passwords from WLID and insert it to their own database. Then remove and replace the WLID with the new one where you would just login with the same email/password(that was copied) as before. It seems like this idea has done nothing, but through this system we can still login with the same details but unattached to WLID. (Gamertags and PSID will have to just be inserted via plugins. New users would just register with email.)

Good idea? No? Okay.

This is likely impossible. It's incredibly unlikely that Bungie knows the passwords associated with your WLID.

Remember that Bungie already requires you to enter in a primary email address in your profile settings. This would likely be the base email of any new account. At that point your password could either be reset, or legacy users could still log in with the WLID but would immediately be forced to transition to the new system once they're logged in by entering a password and confirming their email.

The site would still have the WLID information from your account, so it could take that information and attach it to your new account for the gamertag linking functionality.

  • 05.03.2012 12:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: insaneAssass1n9
I think a dedicated login with the ability to link other accounts would make the most sense.

I agree. Since Bungie is now making games for multiple video game systems instead of just the Xbox, this would make sense.

[Edited on 05.03.2012 12:24 PM PDT]

  • 05.03.2012 12:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: the squee masta
Posted by: Saint of Taint
No need to change the sign-in system.
I would really like bungie.net to stop using the windows live sign-in. My university email uses windows live and I can't check both my email and the forums at the same time!
You can link WLIDs so that you can check your email from both accounts and not have to sign in and out. I currently have 3 WLIDs linked to each other.

  • 05.03.2012 2:44 PM PDT

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Well they should still switch from WLID anyway because I don't know why they're still using it even now.

  • 05.03.2012 8:25 PM PDT

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  • 05.03.2012 8:39 PM PDT
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What about leaving the WLID sign in and have new members that sign up use a generic sign up system.

  • 05.03.2012 9:05 PM PDT

USAF Air Traffic Controller.
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If that were the case I'd be fine with it.
Posted by: CAVX
I've posted about this a lot, and in fact there was a thread about this a few days ago where I voiced my thoughts. The question seems to be coming up more and more lately.

Saint, why exactly don't you want it to change? I assume that the migration for legacy users would keep your WLID linked (with, potentially, the option to unlink it later), and either send an email to the email address you have listed in your profile or just make you enter a new password the first time you log in after the new system is live.


[Edited on 05.03.2012 9:11 PM PDT]

  • 05.03.2012 9:11 PM PDT

Relax. I'd rather not piss this thing off.

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At this point would there be a point, there would need to be a total different system that would use facebook or make there own sign in form.

  • 05.03.2012 10:00 PM PDT

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Why would Activision care? That's silly.

Windows Live ID is the only method available to us to gain authenticated access to your gamertag. Without it, we don't know what your Xbox Live account is.

Even in a theoretical migration, bungie.net has no access to either your login or your password. We send you to live.com, you sign in there (watch where you get sent when you hit sign in), and that site send you back to us with a secure cookie use to attach you to your local data (profile, forums, groups, etc.)

That being said, we are very aware that the current implementation is... less than ideal. Part of the problem is interacting with systems outside of our control, but we can do better. Improving the sign in/identity/account management aspect of bungie.net is pretty high up on our list of "things we need to get better at".

Think about it - we want it to be very easy to join and have a positive experience in this community. If the sign in is in any way difficult, it turns people away. That is very bad.

Posted by: Full Time Loser
I was wondering this myself. I bet Activision isn't too happy about them still using a Microsoft sign-in system.

  • 05.04.2012 1:46 AM PDT

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