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Posted by: ElementalRunner

Posted by: Commander Stroll
Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
If they do attack and lay considerable damage on Sanghelios, good. The Elites want to think humans are evil and on the same level of the Flood, let's be happy to oblidge since it seems finding out they were committing unwarranted genocide hasn't sunken into their minds as being wrong yet.

I'm hoping Jul gets his butt kicked by the Arbiter, simple as. I hope Avu doesn't get killed though, he's not as bad.

Excited to read about what Infinity is capable of, as well as her SPARTAN-IV complement.

P.S Just re-read Glasslands. Getting really fed up of the nickname "hinge-head" being forced at us as readers....

  • 05.05.2012 3:19 AM PDT

it's definitely not captain osman on the cover because she doesn't have the skeletal augmentations needed for mjollnir armor.

  • 05.05.2012 8:34 AM PDT
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Posted by: Leaf Dragoon
it's definitely not captain osman on the cover because she doesn't have the skeletal augmentations needed for mjollnir armor.


It looks like the armor from Reach a little bit, which Spartan 3's are capable of wearing.

  • 05.05.2012 9:24 AM PDT

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Posted by: Gdude

Posted by: Leaf Dragoon
it's definitely not captain osman on the cover because she doesn't have the skeletal augmentations needed for mjollnir armor.


It looks like the armor from Reach a little bit, which Spartan 3's are capable of wearing.


Spartan III's can wear MJOLNIR, also she can wear MJOLNIR because Osman is a Spartan II.

  • 05.05.2012 9:55 AM PDT


Posted by: Leaf Dragoon
it's definitely not captain osman on the cover because she doesn't have the skeletal augmentations needed for mjollnir armor.

It's probably Naomi-010 then...

  • 05.05.2012 10:56 AM PDT
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Like what?
"Oh hey honey im going to virtually destroy oh.... 10 or so interplanetary species and hopefully become a god after I have a cataclysmic suicide!"

It's most likely a spartan IV, considering the Infinity is in the background. It also explains the no-augmentations.

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  • 05.05.2012 12:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: Revenant22
Karen Travis makes me want to vomit with rage, I can't read anything she writes, and I've tried many times.


Her Gears Of War novels are brilliant.

  • 05.05.2012 2:35 PM PDT

Posted by: ElementalRunner

Posted by: Commander Stroll
Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz


Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: Gdude

Posted by: Leaf Dragoon
it's definitely not captain osman on the cover because she doesn't have the skeletal augmentations needed for mjollnir armor.


It looks like the armor from Reach a little bit, which Spartan 3's are capable of wearing.


Spartan III's can wear MJOLNIR, also she can wear MJOLNIR because Osman is a Spartan II.

As leaf dragon said, Osman didn't get the skeletal augmentation because she was a washout, her body was already rejecting the augmentations by the biochemical stage. She didn't get to the surgical stage.

  • 05.05.2012 2:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: RKOSNAKE
See, I told you guys Noble Six obviously survived! :D

Haha :)

In all honesty though this is really really meh. After the lackluster Glassland it really isn't looking good.

Hopefully it doesn't end of as another "Skip it, not worth reading. Read the summary" Type.

Ah well, to be honest I don't really care about the story anymore. I'll just take Halo 4's story with a pinch of salt like any other video-game. FoR,FS,GoO, CH all had something pretty special about the THEMES they were encompassing, something with real discussional value. Now it's all CONTEXT. That is basically dragged out solely for the promotion for 343i Halo workhorse.

MEH.

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  • 05.05.2012 4:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: CoolCJ24
I'm hoping Jul gets his butt kicked by the Arbiter, simple as. I hope Avu doesn't get killed though, he's not as bad.


Avu is a religious fanatic.

  • 05.05.2012 5:35 PM PDT
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I hope they all die, every single character introduced in Glasslands.

Obviously not the recurring ones like Hood and Halsey...

  • 05.05.2012 5:46 PM PDT


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Posted by: RKOSNAKE
See, I told you guys Noble Six obviously survived! :D

Haha :)

In all honesty though this is really really meh. After the lackluster Glassland it really isn't looking good.

Hopefully it doesn't end of as another "Skip it, not worth reading. Read the summary" Type.

Ah well, to be honest I don't really care about the story anymore. I'll just take Halo 4's story with a pinch of salt like any other video-game. FoR,FS,GoO, CH all had something pretty special about the THEMES they were encompassing, something with real discussional value. Now it's all CONTEXT. That is basically dragged out solely for the promotion for 343i Halo workhorse.

MEH.


End of your civilization, faith vs. reality and ethics of bioengineering aren't worthy themes? They seem to be following the same themes the previous stories have told, just more in depth.

  • 05.05.2012 5:54 PM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

^It's already in those books. But those examples are general to every story in every Halo [Might I just add Sci-Fi] books. I'm thinking more specific, more thought out concepts. If you think Karen Traviss covered it to greater depth than lol.

Unless you're talking about Greg Bear. But than I read Halo books for the Universe the Humans live in as the main focus. His strength lies in the amount of detail he put into the Forerunners and their story.

But erm? When I talk about Halo story. I'm talking about post-2500. Anything else is just backstory. This period is where Halo really lies.

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  • 05.05.2012 6:09 PM PDT

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Thought the theme of Glasslands was that "No lessons taught by the Great Schism were learned and that more murder is a-okay!"

  • 05.05.2012 6:22 PM PDT

Some guy on the Waypoint forums believes that Noble 6 survived because the Spartan on this cover has similar armour...

  • 05.05.2012 6:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Thought the theme of Glasslands was that "No lessons taught by the Great Schism were learned and that more murder is a-okay!"

^yeah but thats crap. I'll give some examples of what I'm thinking of.

-How about the idea beheld the Covenant being a collective of races and the extent of which their species served in a heirachy.

-The importance and signficance of humanity's mightiest military homeworld falling down due to unbearable odds regardless of humanities best efforts?

-The importance of the MAC stations on Reach and how crucial it is protecting the Generators on ground. The relationship between the ground units and above air units working as one on Reach.

-The extent of how ultimatly the SPARTANS were ineffective at defending Reach? The symbolism beheld how they couldn't defend their own homes and ran [The idea of how they were force to leave beheld everything they stood for or die] How Reach was a numbers game. Pretty much links back to my 2nd example.

-The extent beheld Kurt as a character,[Lead of GoO] How his personality shaped the S-IIIs and how no other SPARTAN-II could have done what Kurt achieved.

-How Halsey establishes her character when meeting the S-IIIs, the extent to which she is effective at winning over the S-IIIs respect as a civillian and to measure the significance of why she needed their respect and admiration.

There are so many more examples. Halo Post Reach could have been a place worth discussing such ideas in a newer series. But the drivel that 343i pours out makes it pretty dry. So it's just "Reach sucks, Noble team is..., Is jun alive thread etc" on the Bu boards. It's because there's nothing worth discussing in the new books. It just gives us context.

These are topics worth reading and discussing besides the blad sci-fi storyline of humans beat covenant, now elites fight humans, oh no what happens now? S-IVs are formed so we can have fighting chance etc etc.

I'm mainly refering to ROBERTO jh comment.

Meh. If you read literature beyond Halo, you would understand that their is more to a book beyond what happens in a timeline. Yes we get stuff in Glassland. Such as the future of Elite and Human relations. But it's done so poorly that we just accept it as that's that.

Forerunner trilogy has a wealth of discussion but to me just doesn't feel Halo. That's my personal preferance. But it's a great series to get into but just ain't my thing.

[Edited on 05.05.2012 7:03 PM PDT]

  • 05.05.2012 6:44 PM PDT

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looks like the "infinity", 4 Halcyons, 3 Frigates, Osman in her Mk VII armor next all in orbit above sanghelios.

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Interesting helmet. Cover is..meh.



Posted by: DoubleP1234
Why does the cover look like an action figure standing on a glass floor?
Was thinking the same thing.

  • 05.18.2012 10:16 PM PDT


Posted by: ninjakenzen
Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Thought the theme of Glasslands was that "No lessons taught by the Great Schism were learned and that more murder is a-okay!"

^yeah but thats crap. I'll give some examples of what I'm thinking of.

-How about the idea beheld the Covenant being a collective of races and the extent of which their species served in a heirachy.

-The importance and signficance of humanity's mightiest military homeworld falling down due to unbearable odds regardless of humanities best efforts?

-The importance of the MAC stations on Reach and how crucial it is protecting the Generators on ground. The relationship between the ground units and above air units working as one on Reach.

-The extent of how ultimatly the SPARTANS were ineffective at defending Reach? The symbolism beheld how they couldn't defend their own homes and ran [The idea of how they were force to leave beheld everything they stood for or die] How Reach was a numbers game. Pretty much links back to my 2nd example.

-The extent beheld Kurt as a character,[Lead of GoO] How his personality shaped the S-IIIs and how no other SPARTAN-II could have done what Kurt achieved.

-How Halsey establishes her character when meeting the S-IIIs, the extent to which she is effective at winning over the S-IIIs respect as a civillian and to measure the significance of why she needed their respect and admiration.

There are so many more examples. Halo Post Reach could have been a place worth discussing such ideas in a newer series. But the drivel that 343i pours out makes it pretty dry. So it's just "Reach sucks, Noble team is..., Is jun alive thread etc" on the Bu boards. It's because there's nothing worth discussing in the new books. It just gives us context.

These are topics worth reading and discussing besides the blad sci-fi storyline of humans beat covenant, now elites fight humans, oh no what happens now? S-IVs are formed so we can have fighting chance etc etc.

I'm mainly refering to ROBERTO jh comment.

Meh. If you read literature beyond Halo, you would understand that their is more to a book beyond what happens in a timeline. Yes we get stuff in Glassland. Such as the future of Elite and Human relations. But it's done so poorly that we just accept it as that's that.

Forerunner trilogy has a wealth of discussion but to me just doesn't feel Halo. That's my personal preferance. But it's a great series to get into but just ain't my thing.


>Bear in mind I'm not positive on what you're trying to say

Haven't seen this thread in an eternity so I'm a little out. But what exactly were you expecting? 2001? A Sheakespeare tragedy? Complex though this universe is, you can't just expect every story have an incredibly deep or philosophical undertones. I think that Halo's done well enough in that regard already actually; but sometimes you just have to chill out, lay back and enjoy the show. Not everything has to be The Matrix for it to be good, that's a very elitist thought (and in fact supports my personal belief that having a literary major magically turns a person into an elitist snob). But more importantly, Bungie was never making 2002 either, there stories were mostly context with some thematic undertones as well. So what difference is there all of a sudden?

To make a jump, Traviss, for example, is critically lauded for the exact things that this forum says she can not do, which is write characters. She doesn't write for ze art or for the philosophical merit, she writes the psychology and thoughts of people in impossible situations and let's the depth flow naturally. You'd think that she of all people being a defense corrospondant and succesful journalist would know a thing or two about people in war, and more importantly, how to psychoanalyze them.

Barring the plothole of Halsey getting Spartan punched, I have yet to hear a solid reason why the entire novel is terrible and ruins the story forever. I've almost come to the conclusion that I must have read a different book, or at the very least, went into the book with completely different expectations.

But really, I just have to know: what is the difference between 343i's contextual "drivel and Bungie's likwise contextual "drivel" (an Elitist word, that). Why is Halo suddenly terrible when from a thematic position nothing has really changed?

I may be completely misinterpretting your post, but that's what I got out of it.

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  • 05.19.2012 6:03 AM PDT
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I think it looks pretty cool. I can't wait to read it when it comes out.

  • 05.19.2012 6:14 AM PDT

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Why has it been decided that Spartans can wear what ever color armor they want, even if it's dreadfully useless for combat?

Or has the UNSC officially switched from olive-drab to "super fabulous purply-blue" as the combat colors for it's ground troops.

Traviss, this isn't Republic Commando. Soldiers cant choose the colour of their damn armor.


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  • 05.19.2012 6:35 AM PDT

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Posted by: Gottalovec4
Why has it been decided that Spartans can wear what ever color armor they want, even if it's dreadfully useless for combat?

Or has the UNSC officially switched from olive-drab to "super fabulous purply-blue" as the combat colors for it's ground troops.

Traviss, this isn't Republic Commando. Soldiers cant choose the colour of their damn armor.


The UNSC is now the Covenant, it was all an ONI cover-up! o_O

  • 05.19.2012 6:50 AM PDT

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