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Subject: THE PROPHET OF TRUTH KNOWS THE HUMANS ARE FORRUNERS!

Ok. this is just a theory, but I think the prophet of truth knows the humans are forruners. Thats why he never let them join the covenent. He wants all the glory for himself. Thats why he let the other two prophtet leaders die. He thinks with them out of the picture and no humans interfering then he will be top dog when the Halos activate.

  • 06.04.2006 8:53 PM PDT
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hmmm, nope, dont think so

  • 06.04.2006 8:54 PM PDT

Posted by: Bodhi OD1
Dude im equiped like a small rodent, what would you do?

actually, when you think about it...... it makes PERFECT sense that he knows this because he simply shrugs off the other prophets deaths. Nice work keep 'em coming

  • 06.04.2006 8:57 PM PDT

You say tomato; I say potato.

truth knows a lot of things. he knows everything about the story, except for the consequences of eventually getting mjolnir guantlet in the face.

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Posted by: lepsis3942
actually, when you think about it...... it makes PERFECT sense that he knows this because he simply shrugs off the other prophets deaths. Nice work keep 'em coming


Take what lepsis said with a HUGE grain of salt. What you said was true: it's a THEORY. I see no evidence to support it yet. Continue working it out and adding to it, but don't get too sure of yourself. I still don't think humans are forerunners...

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Truth knows everything about the forerunners. Let's just say he's a little mentally challenged if he thinks he can be all high and mighty when the rings are activated.

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truth knows a lot of things. he knows everything about the story, except for the consequences of eventually getting mjolnir guantlet in the face.

Lol, yeah, neither did regret!

[Edited on 6/4/2006]

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Honestly, I think thats a rather crazy theory. although there is some evidence to suggest that humans are the forerunners. but Truth probably Doesnt know everything about the story.

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The covenant worship the forerunners and their technology. If Truth, or any one of the covenant, thought that the humans were forerunners, wouldn't they be worshipping us?

  • 06.04.2006 9:07 PM PDT

Of course he knows, imagine the implications that would mean to the belief of the "Great Journey" if the rest of the Covernant found out.

Truth does not believe in the Journey, he just wants the power of being the leader of the Galaxy by wiping everyone else out!

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  • 06.04.2006 9:07 PM PDT

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I don't think he knows anything.. I think he's just another faith-blinded zealot.

No More Regret
No More Mercy
And Soon..
No More Truth

No More Sadness
No More Anger
No More Envy
..

What else is there? Despair? Rage?

  • 06.04.2006 9:13 PM PDT

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An army of sheep led by a lion would defeat an army of lions led by a sheep.

Posted by: Grunt lover
Of course he knows, imagine the implications that would mean to the belief of the "Great Journey" if the rest of the Covernant found out.

Truth does not believe in the Journey, he just wants the power of being the leader of the Galaxy by wiping everyone else out!


I can't figure out why Truth would know more than any other in his council. Mercy looked a hell of a lot older than Truth.. So Truth must have found the DiVinci code or something and horde it all to himself..

Besides.. Regret was shown the truth.. And we all heard what he had to say about it. Huh? Aughh!! AHHH!! lol It sucks when you get owned by a revelation that destroys any and everything you ever believed in.

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i think Truth knows the truth (look at his name) now we all know, or should know, that this is the prophet of Truth's show. he acts differently than the others- he lacks the religious fervor that regret and even mercy displays. he was in posession of the heretics speech, and rightfully cut it off b4 arbiter or mercy could hear. while the covenant called for arbiters head, truth said "ultimately the terms of your execution are up to ME." he has all the power, and those with all the power has all the knowledge. he orchestrated the assassination of regret and the civil war. he has a hidden agenda of some sorts that only he knows and is too shady to just be another religious zealot

  • 06.04.2006 9:19 PM PDT

Posted by: Twelve Large
I don't think he knows anything.. I think he's just another faith-blinded zealot.

No More Regret
No More Mercy
And Soon..
No More Truth

No More Sadness
No More Anger
No More Envy
..

What else is there? Despair? Rage?


Wake up mate, he knows just you wait.

And by the way there would be Depair and rage, theirs a whole race of Phophets, remember?

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um just to let every1 know ...the prophets live on the homeworld of the forerunners..idk were i read this b4 but its bungie orientated so its the truth behind the story line..(or was it they live on a planet that the forerunners lived on)..idk ill try and find it again and put a link up

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Posted by: Grunt lover
Posted by: Twelve Large
I don't think he knows anything.. I think he's just another faith-blinded zealot.

No More Regret
No More Mercy
And Soon..
No More Truth

No More Sadness
No More Anger
No More Envy
..

What else is there? Despair? Rage?


Wake up mate, he knows just you wait.

And by the way there would be Depair and rage, theirs a whole race of Phophets, remember?


yea there are thousands of prophets. its just that Regret was the best of all the normal prophets, Mercy was a second in command prophet, and Truth is the leader of the Covenant.

  • 06.04.2006 9:21 PM PDT

Posted by: Morning_Wood
Posted by: Grunt lover
Posted by: Twelve Large
I don't think he knows anything.. I think he's just another faith-blinded zealot.

No More Regret
No More Mercy
And Soon..
No More Truth

No More Sadness
No More Anger
No More Envy
..

What else is there? Despair? Rage?


Wake up mate, he knows just you wait.

And by the way there would be Depair and rage, theirs a whole race of Phophets, remember?


yea there are thousands of prophets. its just that Regret was the best of all the normal prophets, Mercy was a second in command prophet, and Truth is the leader of the Covenant.


Do not forget the Phophet counceliers

  • 06.04.2006 9:24 PM PDT
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no evidence

  • 06.04.2006 9:24 PM PDT

Posted by: Gadianton
no evidence

Logic is my evidense.

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there is a theory that the prophets call 117 a "demon" because he believes he was unworthy of the great journey when the forerunners activated the arc. Also there is a deleted scene where the elites and prophets used to fight, but the prophets found forerunner stuff, and made the elites join together and look for more

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Posted by: Grunt lover
Posted by: Gadianton
no evidence

Logic is my evidense.


Evidense. Nice.

I don't know about the whole Truth thing. Seems kinda fishy to me that he would know about his gods and want to destroy them.

  • 06.04.2006 9:48 PM PDT

He doesn't care about the Gods he couldn't give a sh**t about the covenant. He let the other prophets die. He probably wanted the covenant to break apart to cover up what he was doing. He might have wanted the brutes to come to power because they were the most faith-blinded.

  • 06.04.2006 9:57 PM PDT

Truth only gives a s**t about himslf

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Posted by: HaLoGaWd
um just to let every1 know ...the prophets live on the homeworld of the forerunners..idk were i read this b4 but its bungie orientated so its the truth behind the story line..(or was it they live on a planet that the forerunners lived on)..idk ill try and find it again and put a link up


It said in in Halo: The Flood. If you don't want to look in the book then go here.

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  • 06.04.2006 10:37 PM PDT
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I for one, think this is a very good theory.

Truth is a hypocrite. That's what he is, he lies. Truth(and likely the Prophet council as well) knows what Halo's true purpose is. Hence, that's why he was so intent on silencing the Heretics as swiftly as they intent on destroying humanity. Why humans were not allowed to join the Covenant has also been brought up within the Covenant itself(namely, in Conversations From the Universe). Even the lowly Grunts and Jackals were allowed in, or subjugated in per say. Humans are not weak, and they are not unintelligient. In fact, they are a perfect combination of strength, technology, and intelligience. Not to mention the humans are more along than the Covenant when it comes to technolgy, as the Covenant simply replicated the Forerunners'. That rules out any condemnation that humans are weak underlings. The only logical possibility is that the Prophets are hiding something. When they first heard of humanity, they ordered their destruction immediately. Either the Prophets know the Forerunner and humans are related(the Monitors seem to think so), or that they hold vengeance as to events millennias ago. Could the activator of Halo be human, and nearly wiped them out just like all other life in the galaxy?

The Prophets were holding a grudge against the Elites for who knows how long since they fought. For all we know, the Forerunner's technology could mean the end for either side. The Prophets could not defeat the Elites, they planned to use Halo to destroy them as well as all other life forms under the guise that Halo will lead them to salvation and utopia. The "Covenant" should be called "Truce" instead. Apparently, Prophets are the brain and Elites are the brawn. While all life is wiped out, the Prophets would triumph and surpass the Forerunner as being the mightiest in the galaxy. They would be at Earth, where they will be safe("Earth, to finish what we started. And this time, none of you[humans] would be left behind!"-Mercy]). Perhaps Mercy was not referring to the recent invasion of Earth. Perhaps he was referring to that they're tying up loose ends that started millennias ago. The only thing standing in their way is mankind's existence on Earth. That's why they do not want to destroy Earth, because Earth is the lifeboat and a tresure chest of the Forerunner that humanity's sitting on. That's why the Covenant simply intend to conquer Earth.

By Halo 2, the Elites finally realize that the Prophets betrayed them once the Brutes won the Council's favor.

If it is true that the Covenant had a previous history with the Flood, then that means the Forerunner must be involved as well. If the Forerunner were involved as the Flood were, then it is entirely possible the Prophets knew who the Forerunner were. Perhaps they fought against the Forerunner. Perhaps they survived on High Charity and claim the world and Forerunner city as their own. I would find it highly unlikely that if High Charity is indeed a Forerunner city, that of the entire city itself(if not the countless Forerunner relics the Prophets came upon) would not have any proof, evidence, or record as to who the Forerunner were.

While I did say Truth was a backstabbing liar, this quote seems important:

"The Parasite did not defeat the Forerunners. And they shall not defeat us".-Truth.

So sure is he? Maybe he was telling the truth.


There's your logic.

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