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Why does everyone say Spartan IIIs are worse than 2s? As I recall, GoO states that they are actually equal, just that the IIIs augmentations are less lethal.

  • 05.13.2012 5:10 PM PDT

I dunno. I think it may be because of the armour and the way ONI treats them.

If they were as important as the Spartan IIs, I don't think they would have sent them on suicide missions. They were probably inferior and thus ONI had no problem sending them to their deaths. Only the exceptional ones were kept alive.

Also, I guess before Reach came out, people assumed they couldn't wear MJOLNIR. Now we know that is false, but I guess the effect still lingers.

Also, I believe Carter is around 6'8 armoured, and a marine once mentioned that John-117 was a "7 foot tank in armour". John isn't even one of the bigger Spartan IIs I believe. So people may believe that Spartan IIIs are weaker.

Correct me if I'm wrong on any of these points. I think these are reasons why people think that.

  • 05.13.2012 5:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: Spartan1995324
I dunno. I think it may be because of the armour and the way ONI treats them.

If they were as important as the Spartan IIs, I don't think they would have sent them on suicide missions. They were probably inferior and thus ONI had no problem sending them to their deaths. Only the exceptional ones were kept alive.

Also, I guess before Reach came out, people assumed they couldn't wear MJOLNIR. Now we know that is false, but I guess the effect still lingers.

Also, I believe Carter is around 6'8 armoured, and a marine once mentioned that John-117 was a "7 foot tank in armour". John isn't even one of the bigger Spartan IIs I believe. So people may believe that Spartan IIIs are weaker.

Correct me if I'm wrong on any of these points. I think these are reasons why people think that.


Considering how Jorge is 2.30 meters tall in armor and Jun (who is 2 centimeters bigger than Carter) reaches his chin, then the height must be out of armor, which would put Carter as 2 centimeters below John.

  • 05.13.2012 6:03 PM PDT


Posted by: Nocbl2
Why does everyone say Spartan IIIs are worse than 2s? As I recall, GoO states that they are actually equal, just that the IIIs augmentations are less lethal.


I think a lot of it has to do with armor. like "all things considered" II's are superior than III's. My opinion however is on a basic level. III's were trained to be lethal but expendable. The vast majority of them didn't make it past their teens. Physically they are on an equal playing field, but I think the better grounded and thorough training of the II's makes them superior to the III's.

Also, as Glasslands explores, the medication that was administered to the III's to make them more aggressive and less susceptible to pain in combat situations makes them mentally unstable. Lucy pretty much has a nervous breakdown at one point.

  • 05.13.2012 6:46 PM PDT
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sparten 2 a 7.5 ft tall to match elites, sparten three do not have all the bioaugmentation sparten 2 have, they are less developed due to cost of production but have less of a self preservation instint due to addition medication they tend to be more homicidel and do not have growth modification which makes them smaller and more expendable.

  • 05.13.2012 6:48 PM PDT

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sparten 2 a 7.5 ft tall to match elites, sparten three do not have all the bioaugmentation sparten 2 have, they are less developed due to cost of production but have less of a self preservation instint due to addition medication they tend to be more homicidel and do not have growth modification which makes them smaller and more expendable.


You sir, are an idiot.

  • 05.13.2012 6:54 PM PDT
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You too young to know what that means.

  • 05.13.2012 6:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: PHYNIX CALL
You too young to know what that means.


On the contrary, you are the one that displays immaturity. I am about to become an adult, and if you're indeed an adult yourself, then you are truly pathetic as you have the grammar of a four year old.

  • 05.13.2012 7:11 PM PDT

What a waste....


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Posted by: PHYNIX CALL
You too young to know what that means.


On the contrary, you are the one that displays immaturity. I am about to become an adult, and if you're indeed an adult yourself, then you are truly pathetic as you have the grammar of a four year old.
From now on, let's just report him and not reply. I think he's just trolling.

On topic: I think that it is just an assumption of people that didn't read thoroughly. But on to ONI and not caring about them; the augmentations were improved in every way, meaning they were also cheaper to administer. Either that, or everyone reached the point where budget was of no concern since, you know, we're all going to die.

  • 05.13.2012 9:02 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: Nocbl2

Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: PHYNIX CALL
You too young to know what that means.


On the contrary, you are the one that displays immaturity. I am about to become an adult, and if you're indeed an adult yourself, then you are truly pathetic as you have the grammar of a four year old.
From now on, let's just report him and not reply. I think he's just trolling.

On topic: I think that it is just an assumption of people that didn't read thoroughly. But on to ONI and not caring about them; the augmentations were improved in every way, meaning they were also cheaper to administer. Either that, or everyone reached the point where budget was of no concern since, you know, we're all going to die.


If that was the case, then they would all have gotten MJOLNIR Armor.

  • 05.13.2012 9:55 PM PDT