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They never mentioned any of the other spartans in the previous halo games, except of course for halo reach and halo wars. Why weren't the other spartan II's that survived mentioned?

  • 05.13.2012 6:39 PM PDT

I don't know.

Maybe for Bungie to find out who differentiate between the real Halo fans, and the game fans?

  • 05.13.2012 7:08 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: Dont pass gass
They never mentioned any of the other spartans in the previous halo games, except of course for halo reach and halo wars. Why weren't the other spartan II's that survived mentioned?


Why would they mention them? they do not take part in any of the events of the games.

  • 05.13.2012 7:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: Dont pass gass
They never mentioned any of the other spartans in the previous halo games, except of course for halo reach and halo wars. Why weren't the other spartan II's that survived mentioned?


Why would they mention them? they do not take part in any of the events of the games.
Now you got some Good Reasoning there but then again why wouldnt you not want to Add them in? If you Could take Jun For Instance and place him in the Halo 4 Game Bam He could be your New Side kick AI, Or Just Mention them to Build more Background Information, You know, Say Master Chief or Cortana Mentions another Spartan Such as Linda Which She was Not Mentioned but There a Easter Egg of here being on the Pillar of Autumn in Halo CEA. If would Get Somebody Stir Crazy and want to Completely Research that Person and want to find out who they are and what they mean to 117, Okay little Trivia Did you know That They Bungie almost Ran out of Time to Make Emile?(and the Shotgun lol) If They Didnt have enough time to finish Emile They Were Going to put a LINDA To take his Place instead, I believe is was also in DR. Halsey's Personal Journel That you got if you got the Heroic Edition of Halo Reach Talks about how if Emile Would have Messed up a couple more times and if he had anymore Anger Issues he was going to be Replaced by Linda, They had a lot of reasons to Take Emile out, but kept him in. Anyways to Answer the Question it was so that like i said, If they Got Mentioned it was Draw Away the Connection between Master Chief and the Player Thats Why, i hope i answered your Question and gave you a couple new fun facts(:!

  • 05.13.2012 10:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: jakymoonpownz

Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: Dont pass gass
They never mentioned any of the other spartans in the previous halo games, except of course for halo reach and halo wars. Why weren't the other spartan II's that survived mentioned?


Why would they mention them? they do not take part in any of the events of the games.
Now you got some Good Reasoning there but then again why wouldnt you not want to Add them in? If you Could take Jun For Instance and place him in the Halo 4 Game Bam He could be your New Side kick AI, Or Just Mention them to Build more Background Information, You know, Say Master Chief or Cortana Mentions another Spartan Such as Linda Which She was Not Mentioned but There a Easter Egg of here being on the Pillar of Autumn in Halo CEA. If would Get Somebody Stir Crazy and want to Completely Research that Person and want to find out who they are and what they mean to 117, Okay little Trivia Did you know That They Bungie almost Ran out of Time to Make Emile?(and the Shotgun lol) If They Didnt have enough time to finish Emile They Were Going to put a LINDA To take his Place instead, I believe is was also in DR. Halsey's Personal Journel That you got if you got the Heroic Edition of Halo Reach Talks about how if Emile Would have Messed up a couple more times and if he had anymore Anger Issues he was going to be Replaced by Linda, They had a lot of reasons to Take Emile out, but kept him in. Anyways to Answer the Question it was so that like i said, If they Got Mentioned it was Draw Away the Connection between Master Chief and the Player Thats Why, i hope i answered your Question and gave you a couple new fun facts(:!




Uh, no, Linda is part of Blue Team, why would she be in Noble Team?

Emile was going to be replaced by Rosenda if a counter-insurgency operation came up due to his excessive force used on civilians and other non-Spartan personnel.

Besides, why mention somebody who won't appear in the game at all?

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  • 05.13.2012 11:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: Dont pass gass
They never mentioned any of the other spartans in the previous halo games, except of course for halo reach and halo wars. Why weren't the other spartan II's that survived mentioned?


Why would they mention them? they do not take part in any of the events of the games.

  • 05.14.2012 12:49 AM PDT

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Posted by: cameo_cream

Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: Dont pass gass
They never mentioned any of the other spartans in the previous halo games, except of course for halo reach and halo wars. Why weren't the other spartan II's that survived mentioned?

They could have helped the chief. Why didn't any of the other spartans that weren't MIA come and help? WTF are they doing?
Why would they mention them? they do not take part in any of the events of the games.

  • 05.14.2012 12:55 AM PDT

I'm an Anarchist. I don't need a government to be a good person, but I'm glad it's here because some of you clearly do.

The games and books were not officially intertwined. Bungie told us that from a developmental point of view, the games come first, and the books come second.

So technically, there weren't actually any other Spartans to begin with. The game had only established Master Chief, therefore, Master Chief is the only Spartan in the universe of the game.



  • 05.14.2012 6:50 AM PDT


Posted by: jakymoonpownz

Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: Dont pass gass
They never mentioned any of the other spartans in the previous halo games, except of course for halo reach and halo wars. Why weren't the other spartan II's that survived mentioned?


Why would they mention them? they do not take part in any of the events of the games.
Now you got some Good Reasoning there but then again why wouldnt you not want to Add them in? If you Could take Jun For Instance and place him in the Halo 4 Game Bam He could be your New Side kick AI, Or Just Mention them to Build more Background Information, You know, Say Master Chief or Cortana Mentions another Spartan Such as Linda Which She was Not Mentioned but There a Easter Egg of here being on the Pillar of Autumn in Halo CEA. If would Get Somebody Stir Crazy and want to Completely Research that Person and want to find out who they are and what they mean to 117, Okay little Trivia Did you know That They Bungie almost Ran out of Time to Make Emile?(and the Shotgun lol) If They Didnt have enough time to finish Emile They Were Going to put a LINDA To take his Place instead, I believe is was also in DR. Halsey's Personal Journel That you got if you got the Heroic Edition of Halo Reach Talks about how if Emile Would have Messed up a couple more times and if he had anymore Anger Issues he was going to be Replaced by Linda, They had a lot of reasons to Take Emile out, but kept him in. Anyways to Answer the Question it was so that like i said, If they Got Mentioned it was Draw Away the Connection between Master Chief and the Player Thats Why, i hope i answered your Question and gave you a couple new fun facts(:!


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  • 05.14.2012 7:01 AM PDT

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Posted by: Acres 057
The games and books were not officially intertwined. Bungie told us that from a developmental point of view, the games come first, and the books come second.

So technically, there weren't actually any other Spartans to begin with. The game had only established Master Chief, therefore, Master Chief is the only Spartan in the universe of the game.





But we did know other Spartans existed, at least in the past anyway.

  • 05.14.2012 7:04 AM PDT

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To make you feel like the last Spartan.

  • 05.14.2012 7:10 AM PDT

Because Bungie hadn't created them yet/they were irrelevant.

  • 05.14.2012 7:25 AM PDT

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Posted by: CrabbySpider

Posted by: Acres 057
The games and books were not officially intertwined. Bungie told us that from a developmental point of view, the games come first, and the books come second.

So technically, there weren't actually any other Spartans to begin with. The game had only established Master Chief, therefore, Master Chief is the only Spartan in the universe of the game.





But we did know other Spartans existed, at least in the past anyway.


We believed (me included) other Spartans existed. I read the original trilogy before H2 came out, and wished that Bungie would shed some light on the other SII's, but their position as the developer justifies the absence of or ignorance toward the remaining SII's.

I suspect they just didn't want to make the in-game canon any more complex than it needed to be.

  • 05.14.2012 8:26 AM PDT

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This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
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The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

There wasn't really any need to mention them. If you really wanted to know about them, you'd read the novels.

  • 05.14.2012 8:43 AM PDT

Fixed.
Posted by: Spartan1995324
I don't know.

Maybe for Bungie to find out who differentiate between the real Halo fans, and the fan fiction fans?

  • 05.14.2012 8:43 AM PDT

Because bungie didn't want to introduce characters from the extended canon as only a small majority of players would have read the books and get the references/know who they are.

  • 05.14.2012 10:39 AM PDT

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Because not nearly enough people have read the books, which is why lots of people thought Noble Team were all Spartan IIs, and had no clue what a Spartan III was.

  • 05.14.2012 10:50 AM PDT


Posted by: Simjon4two
Fixed.
Posted by: Spartan1995324
I don't know.

Maybe for Bungie to find out who differentiate between the real Halo fans, and the fan fiction fans?
How is that fixed? I don't see what fiction writers do that is so bad. You don't like it, don't read. Just like the newspaper.

  • 05.14.2012 12:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: jakymoonpownz

Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: Dont pass gass
They never mentioned any of the other spartans in the previous halo games, except of course for halo reach and halo wars. Why weren't the other spartan II's that survived mentioned?


Why would they mention them? they do not take part in any of the events of the games.
Now you got some Good Reasoning there but then again why wouldnt you not want to Add them in? If you Could take Jun For Instance and place him in the Halo 4 Game Bam He could be your New Side kick AI, Or Just Mention them to Build more Background Information, You know, Say Master Chief or Cortana Mentions another Spartan Such as Linda Which She was Not Mentioned but There a Easter Egg of here being on the Pillar of Autumn in Halo CEA. If would Get Somebody Stir Crazy and want to Completely Research that Person and want to find out who they are and what they mean to 117, Okay little Trivia Did you know That They Bungie almost Ran out of Time to Make Emile?(and the Shotgun lol) If They Didnt have enough time to finish Emile They Were Going to put a LINDA To take his Place instead, I believe is was also in DR. Halsey's Personal Journel That you got if you got the Heroic Edition of Halo Reach Talks about how if Emile Would have Messed up a couple more times and if he had anymore Anger Issues he was going to be Replaced by Linda, They had a lot of reasons to Take Emile out, but kept him in. Anyways to Answer the Question it was so that like i said, If they Got Mentioned it was Draw Away the Connection between Master Chief and the Player Thats Why, i hope i answered your Question and gave you a couple new fun facts(:!


You weave a great tapestry of English literature. Were you able to write this easily or did it require some effort?
Alright dude i'm sorry i don't write properly. I guess my random caps. bother you don't they? Honestly i don't know to take this as an insult or a compliment. Also, Again like i said, if you mentioned another Spartan in the Halo campaign it would take Connection between the Master Chief and the player because you would be spending hours trying to figure out that thy is just a random person to whom is not even in the game would make you try, and try again to find out whom this Spartan is and then you lose your connection with the Master Chief, its all about keeping you grasped, keeping you open minded. Also just think if that did happen, if everybody got so side tracked about trying to figure out who this spartan is then everybody would forget to try to figure what Emile's, Rookie's, and Master Chief's Face the theory would die out and then 343 would show what there faces would be and then us fan would be like why did you show us and the only answer would be is, We told you we were showing and you guys said who cares were trying to figure out who this is instead of staying true to Halo.

  • 05.14.2012 1:24 PM PDT

Skittles are better than M&M's >:)

Oh one last thing, before i go look at the time i posted that reply? It was like 12, 1, 2AM something like that. Of course im not going to remember not to hold shift for every word.

  • 05.14.2012 1:26 PM PDT

Yes, I AM just that awesome.

I get the feeling that surviving Spartans were retconned into canon after the books started being released.

  • 05.14.2012 4:50 PM PDT

I started up the heated debate on whether the SPARTAN-II in the cryo tube near the end of Reach is really Linda.
I created the Moa XING avatar pic.
Also I earned the All Star nameplate with this submission to Week 14 All Stars http://www.bungie.net/images/News/Inline11/bwu_0415/art/likea boss.jpg

They were mentioned. Halo 3, the very first cutscene.

  • 05.14.2012 4:54 PM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

Having more Spartan's takes away the limelight from good ol cheify 117.

It's his story and his arc. But like most people said, it would only cater to a minority of the people who played [The minority of people Bungie should actually care about *cough] everyone else would just be confused if it wasn't explained/implemented right.

  • 05.14.2012 4:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: jakymoonpownz

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Posted by: jakymoonpownz

Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: Dont pass gass
They never mentioned any of the other spartans in the previous halo games, except of course for halo reach and halo wars. Why weren't the other spartan II's that survived mentioned?


Why would they mention them? they do not take part in any of the events of the games.
Now you got some Good Reasoning there but then again why wouldnt you not want to Add them in? If you Could take Jun For Instance and place him in the Halo 4 Game Bam He could be your New Side kick AI, Or Just Mention them to Build more Background Information, You know, Say Master Chief or Cortana Mentions another Spartan Such as Linda Which She was Not Mentioned but There a Easter Egg of here being on the Pillar of Autumn in Halo CEA. If would Get Somebody Stir Crazy and want to Completely Research that Person and want to find out who they are and what they mean to 117, Okay little Trivia Did you know That They Bungie almost Ran out of Time to Make Emile?(and the Shotgun lol) If They Didnt have enough time to finish Emile They Were Going to put a LINDA To take his Place instead, I believe is was also in DR. Halsey's Personal Journel That you got if you got the Heroic Edition of Halo Reach Talks about how if Emile Would have Messed up a couple more times and if he had anymore Anger Issues he was going to be Replaced by Linda, They had a lot of reasons to Take Emile out, but kept him in. Anyways to Answer the Question it was so that like i said, If they Got Mentioned it was Draw Away the Connection between Master Chief and the Player Thats Why, i hope i answered your Question and gave you a couple new fun facts(:!


You weave a great tapestry of English literature. Were you able to write this easily or did it require some effort?
Alright dude i'm sorry i don't write properly. I guess my random caps. bother you don't they? Honestly i don't know to take this as an insult or a compliment. Also, Again like i said, if you mentioned another Spartan in the Halo campaign it would take Connection between the Master Chief and the player because you would be spending hours trying to figure out that thy is just a random person to whom is not even in the game would make you try, and try again to find out whom this Spartan is and then you lose your connection with the Master Chief, its all about keeping you grasped, keeping you open minded. Also just think if that did happen, if everybody got so side tracked about trying to figure out who this spartan is then everybody would forget to try to figure what Emile's, Rookie's, and Master Chief's Face the theory would die out and then 343 would show what there faces would be and then us fan would be like why did you show us and the only answer would be is, We told you we were showing and you guys said who cares were trying to figure out who this is instead of staying true to Halo.


Cool 5 sentences bro, needs more punctuation and stuff.

OT, I think they should've been hinted about at suitable points in game, which there weren't all that many of. It would've made people think about the back story and possibly made them want to read more into the Halo Universe which is god damn awesome.

[Edited on 05.15.2012 6:11 AM PDT]

  • 05.15.2012 6:06 AM PDT

Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien.
Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar.
tenn' Ambar-metta!

They never were denied, the game of Halo: CE established it self. "You are the last of your kind."

Also like other people posted already, they weren't mentioned because they were part of that story. In Halo 3 btw, when the chief arrives to catch up with Miranda Keyes, the marines who see the chief, they don't call him Master Chief, they call him "a Spartan", establishing that they have seen more than one.

[Edited on 05.15.2012 8:01 AM PDT]

  • 05.15.2012 7:59 AM PDT