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Subject: Hmm, what can we depict about Requiem and the campaign?

Vengeance only leads to an ongoing cycle of hatred.

From the new boxart revelation?
-Just a cool version I found for your viewing pleasure.

I don't take credit for image.

Take note:
-There is a Covenant ship on the right.
-The Forward Unto Dawn is on the left. If you zoom in you can see Unto Dawn on the side.
-Some say that what Master Chief is standing on might be something Covenant. I personally thinks it looks nothing like anything Covenant. If anything, it just looks like rocks to me, to be honest.
-IMO, this is the first time I think Chief has looked like Chief in his new armor. In the other images and videos, I didn't really think it looked much like the Chief. This picture does.
-Possible Covenant ships in the fog.
-Chief seems to be preoccupied with something else by the way he's looking. If you zoom in their is a reflection on his visor. It's hard to make out, but it seems like it might be some sort of structures/buildings?

So, Universe, what can you find from this new boxart image? If anything? Start the speculation.

[Edited on 05.15.2012 3:23 PM PDT]

  • 05.14.2012 3:34 PM PDT

Both the UNSC and Covenant are depicted in a totally trashed state, being pulled into a large Forerunner structure as if to say the structure could be the key to both of their salvations.

Or destruction.

Also, I see a few Covenant ships, in the foggy background.

  • 05.14.2012 3:50 PM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

First of all OP: Nice find!

I think you and and Roberto have basically pulled out most of the cards.

Erm I'll just state something obvious that wasn't mentioned though. Cheif isn't focused on the structure pulling him in, his attention is caught elsewhere [Any Visor reflection significance?]

If you look carefully it seems the ships are being shredded into the structure. There's no way that these ships will be in one piece on the other side.

If we assume that the events occur after he leaves the dawn, with heavy covenant presence. [From what is given from the mag scans they are the enemy at this point] we can assume that at the time of the picture the covenant forces aren't friendly.

Adding to this, what is he standing on, is it ship fragments? I doubt it, it looks more rocky and earth like. Maybe a asteriod? He doesn't intend to get in the structure from what is given. There is also no indication of other UNSC forces at this scene. Indicating we may see them later on, rather than earlier on.

[Edited on 05.14.2012 4:17 PM PDT]

  • 05.14.2012 4:13 PM PDT

I will say this, I have faith that 343i will deliver something awesome, but that chest armor is hideous. They're butchering the armor from what we seen so far.

  • 05.14.2012 4:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: YakZSmelk
I will say this, I have faith that 343i will deliver something awesome, but that chest armor is hideous. They're butchering the armor from what we seen so far.

Yeah, I'm really not liking the armor. Maybe it'll grow on us, I don't know.

  • 05.14.2012 4:26 PM PDT
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Good, a throwback to CE's cover.

It coincides with their claims. If I see a level like CE's 2nd level, I will be quite satisfied.

Though I am wondering if this is going to be used in the cutscene. In CE and H3, Master Chief always wielded the AR in cutscenes. In H2, Chief would be holding whatever weapon you were holding and that was much better.

Anyways, because of my opinion of 343, imo their sloppy work on Anniversary's campaign, I'm going to need a lot more than mystery and exploration to welcome Halo 4 into my game collection.

Combat is what I crave for. Decent, balanced, exciting combat. And a lot of replayability.

Damage sponges, omniscient AI, lack of distinction, bottomless clip wielders, redundant weapons, all-the-time invincible allies, kill stealing dropships will merely make me put it back in it's case (or in a cd sheet if M$ are using the stupid eco cases).

[Edited on 05.14.2012 6:02 PM PDT]

  • 05.14.2012 5:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sliding Ghost
It coincides with their claims. If I see a level like CE's 2nd level, I will be quite satisfied.

Agreed. We need to bring back fun missions like that.

Though I am wondering if this is going to be used in the cutscene. In CE and H3, Master Chief always wielded the AR in cutscenes. In H2, Chief would be holding whatever weapon you were holding and that was much better.
Yeah, it obviously made much more sense to have the weapon you were wielding at that time, so I hope that returns. If not, it won't really be a big deal.

Anyways, because of my opinion of 343, imo their sloppy work on Anniversary's campaign, I'm going to need a lot more than mystery and exploration to welcome Halo 4 into my game collection.
I don't understand this. HCEA is essentially a carbon copy of H:CE except with updated graphics. How can you say that they did a sloppy job with it?

Combat is what I crave for. Decent, balanced, exciting combat. And a lot of replayability.
Yeah, I'm sure this is what all of us want. They said gameplay was going to be an important part of it.

redundant weapons
Halo 4 is bringing the largest sandbox. Evar.

[Edited on 05.14.2012 6:29 PM PDT]

  • 05.14.2012 6:29 PM PDT

This looks really sweet, I hope that they delve more into the forerunner past and about what happened to them. This looks like they might do just that!

  • 05.14.2012 7:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: silentking64
This looks really sweet, I hope that they delve more into the forerunner past and about what happened to them. This looks like they might do just that!

You should read "Halo: Cryptum" and "Halo: Primordium". That delves into the Forerunners past.

  • 05.14.2012 7:13 PM PDT

What a waste....

There are various Covenant and Human vehicles of all types, and I think the image it's trying to project is "We're all screwed, so let's stand together" (even though Covenant might be enemies)

  • 05.14.2012 9:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
Yeah, it obviously made much more sense to have the weapon you were wielding at that time, so I hope that returns.
Bungie reverted to the default weapons in H3, ODST, and Reach. I can understand The Rookie since roles were well defined in ODST and Master Chief since he's iconic, but in Reach, a "hyper lethal vector" using such lousy weapons (AR and pistol) as his default is absurd.

Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
I don't understand this. HCEA is essentially a carbon copy of H:CE except with updated graphics. How can you say that they did a sloppy job with it?
I was expecting an immersive experience, not one where I end up raging every 5 minutes because of minor issues.

  • 05.14.2012 11:11 PM PDT


Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Both the UNSC and Covenant are depicted in a totally trashed state, being pulled into a large Forerunner structure as if to say the structure could be the key to both of their salvations.

Or destruction.


Yeah, that's the best interpretation. It seems to me like the boxart is one big metaphor; the UNSC and especially the Covenant are done, and it's reflected in the state of their ships and the way John is looking away from them.

This is all about Requiem now, and whatever secrets it holds.

  • 05.14.2012 11:59 PM PDT


Posted by: Nocbl2
There are various Covenant and Human vehicles of all types, and I think the image it's trying to project is "We're all screwed, so let's stand together" (even though Covenant might be enemies)


Let's assume these Covies are Telcam and co. I understand the logistical concerns of getting a "fleet" within 5 years from when you started out as a small splinter terrorist group.

But if the Forerunners have revealed themselves within that 5 year time, then it would be like if Jesus himself walked upto the Vatican. A lot of people would throw in their support for the religious guys quite fast, especially if they all once were fanatics.

But in this case, perhaps if this Ancient Evil turns out to be too large a threat to handle even with Forerunner backing, then Telcam's group will see some sense and the two sides could be properly united. I don't know, just tossing out ideas.

[Edited on 05.15.2012 4:23 AM PDT]

  • 05.15.2012 4:22 AM PDT

Straight from the wandering mind of Watson 203

I think that Requim may share some similiarity with Line Installation 1-4 from Halo: Blood Line.
As I understand it, the Line Installation's use specialised weaponry to shoot down ships from Slipspace, causing them to crash onto the installation's surface. It's taken that the original purpose of the Line Installations was to shoot down Flood occupied ships in the Forerunner-Flood war as part of the Maginot Line then research and experiment with any surviving occupants. The name of the style of Installation also supports them being part of the Maginot Line.
In Blood Line, Human and Covenant ships where forced to crash land and the occupants of the ships where then captured by "Gatherer's".

Also, just For referance, I haven't read Halo: Blood Line but I know of the story, so correct me if I'm wrong.

My theory is that Requiem could be a well defended research facility with some of the capabilities of the Line Installation, or just simple weaponry or powerful sentinels to shoot down ships in normal space, collect them and their occupants and their technology, then test or experiment with whatever is found.
Forward Unto Dawn was already damaged and so was automatically pulled into Requiem, and the covenant ship could've been damaged by weaponry or sentinels like in Ghosts Of Onyx. A ship in that state wouldn't have been given permission to go off galavanting about a space, and I don't think John 117 on the FUD could have damaged it seeing as half of the ship's missing. Unless he successfully pulls of another Halo 2 moment, but I doubt that.
So yeah, my two pence.

[Edited on 05.15.2012 5:45 AM PDT]

  • 05.15.2012 5:43 AM PDT


Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
Hmm, what can we predict about Requiem and the campaign?


Oops.

:)

  • 05.15.2012 10:16 AM PDT

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Posted by: ThePredkiller2

Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
Hmm, what can we predict about Requiem and the campaign?


Oops.

:)

Umm, no. Depict. From the picture. Get it?

  • 05.15.2012 11:19 AM PDT

Posted by: ElementalRunner

Posted by: Commander Stroll
Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz

I think a lot of what can be picked from the box art has already been picked. Although I must say, after a decade of exploring the Halo Universe where Covenant ships have repeatedly layed waste to human fleets with relative ease...

...I am relishing seeing some Forerunner defense system cut through some Covie ships like a hot knife through some extremely soft butter.

  • 05.15.2012 11:27 AM PDT

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What confuses me is how the covenant cruiser gets there. Does chief first meet with them in space, and then suddenly they crash land. Like talking to the leader just before a fight on the space deck. See the the portal opening and then -blam!- this -blam!- i'm getting out of here.

  • 05.15.2012 11:43 AM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

It's a box art, people shouldn't take it so seriously.

  • 05.15.2012 1:00 PM PDT

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Great analysis. I think it'd be interesting to see a Human-Covenant alliance against this greater threat.

  • 05.15.2012 2:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Both the UNSC and Covenant are depicted in a totally trashed state, being pulled into a large Forerunner structure as if to say the structure could be the key to both of their salvations.

Or destruction.


Yeah, that's the best interpretation. It seems to me like the boxart is one big metaphor; the UNSC and especially the Covenant are done, and it's reflected in the state of their ships and the way John is looking away from them.

This is all about Requiem now, and whatever secrets it holds.

This is the best interpretation, in my opinion. It seems the old UNSC vs Covenant is done with. Now, it's all about Requiem and the Forerunners, etc. Possibly even means that they're coming together, for good, maybe. Done with being enemies and now turning toward a new threat. Sorta like when the Flood happened.

  • 05.15.2012 3:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: YakZSmelk
I will say this, I have faith that 343i will deliver something awesome, but that chest armor is hideous. They're butchering the armor from what we seen so far.


I wouldn't hold your breath......

  • 05.15.2012 3:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wolverfrog
Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Both the UNSC and Covenant are depicted in a totally trashed state, being pulled into a large Forerunner structure as if to say the structure could be the key to both of their salvations.

Or destruction.

Yeah, that's the best interpretation. It seems to me like the boxart is one big metaphor; the UNSC and especially the Covenant are done, and it's reflected in the state of their ships and the way John is looking away from them.

This is all about Requiem now, and whatever secrets it holds.

This is the best interpretation, in my opinion. It seems the old UNSC vs Covenant is done with. Now, it's all about Requiem and the Forerunners, etc. Possibly even means that they're coming together, for good, maybe. Done with being enemies and now turning toward a new threat. Sorta like when the Flood happened.

I wouldn't go that far. The Covenant ship is likely just there to give it some familiarity and to entice those fans who like fighting the Covenant.

  • 05.15.2012 3:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: anton1792
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This is the best interpretation, in my opinion. It seems the old UNSC vs Covenant is done with. Now, it's all about Requiem and the Forerunners, etc. Possibly even means that they're coming together, for good, maybe. Done with being enemies and now turning toward a new threat. Sorta like when the Flood happened.

I wouldn't go that far. The Covenant ship is likely just there to give it some familiarity and to entice those fans who like fighting the Covenant.

Yeah, I'm not expecting that to actually happen. I was really only just throwing it out there as a distant possibility.

*small spoilers*
We know that Chief fights with Covenant on the first mission or so. I don't see any of them having intention on making peace or anything like that anytime soon.

  • 05.15.2012 3:34 PM PDT

I don't see the Covenant allying with humanity. In fact, I think the "new threat" will make quick work of the Covies and most likely cripple them to irrelevancy early in the game.

  • 05.15.2012 5:55 PM PDT

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