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Posted by: Elder Bias
Seems that you guys don't understand how physics works. Although-out in novels, it was stated that UNSC Cruisers are NOT RATED for atmosphere, which it could mean two things: It cannot land in planet in normal means unless it is emergency situation (see to Pillar of Autumn's crashing at Halo.) and another thing: It cannot hover in the atmosphere because the planet's gravity would ultimately crush UNSC cruiser due to its mass and size.
Not necessarily true elder. You assume that "Not Rated" for atmosphere means it will ultimately destroy the ship, or that when it lands that it will land permanently. But you assume the worst and regret the possibility of it being able to handle the atmospheric pressures and gravity, but not the landing.
Remember Elder this is a science fiction game, where normal physical limits are exceeded by the fact that this is taking place in the future, where technology has advanced and where what was physically impossible today is possible in that future.
Not to mention that if you can find it plausible that a ship like the frigate, made of the same UNSC technology, can manage to float in the air with relative ease and accuracy, yet a ship who is slightly over two times larger in length cannot even hit the planet before it is torn apart, or with some assistance to land without being permanently stuck.
You see those boosters on Pillar of Autumn in Reach? That is chemical boosters and we know that it is not enough to lift off the Pillar of Autumn because it does not produce enough energy. I calculated the booster's power to lift the ship (based on few seconds of cut-scene). It was about 36 million newtons of force which it is far too weak for the ship to lift off the atmosphere in Reach. Maybe it was designed to lift a cruiser high enough for main engines to start but it's all moot because of gravity would -blam!- the ship up.
Those propellants are obviously not capable of bringing the ship to the surface safely, nor capable of lifting it out of the gravity well, but it is capable of lifting it clear of any obstruction, and letting the main engines take over.
Watch the cutscene again and it's apparent that the main engines can take it out of atmosphere (based on the cutscene), if it's capable of pushing that ship through the atmosphere, then surely it's capable of helping it land, and letting the exterior boosters assist in the landing before the impact. There are plenty of ship yards around reach, they used a lot of them to block plasma bolts in the battle of reach, perhaps cruisers can land, but not on their own.
You see that Reach is slightly larger than Earth and it has more gravity, which it accounts for higher pressure of atmospheric which it hints that it would require more thrust/power/force to lift the ship off on Reach than Earth.
Remember elder that the frigates in reach too seem to not notice the difference in gravity or atmospheric pressures.
Again elder, think about the frigates, and if you are willing and able to completely ignore the fact that gigantic structures of metal are floating in air, then why are you so willing to say with certainty that it's impossible for the cruiser to even make it without being torn apart?
And if you do have a problem with the frigates floating, then this is not a problem you can have solely with reach, this is a problem you must have with halo 2 and halo 3 as well.