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iuts what came with halo 2 SE and its the an artifact they found on planet chorel. they say they found the tip of an iceberg and are digging down. they say its very decrative.

  • 06.06.2006 1:26 AM PDT
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I never thought of Waterworks as a map on Earth, I guess I got to play it some more and find out some clues. I don't really believe in the Halo on Earth concept, but maybe this might help me. This thread reminds me of mine, which is about how Chicago will be in Halo 3, Link is in my Sig.

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ya it could be

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This is a wonderful theory and one I can acctually believe. Pehaps this place was found sometime very close to Halo discovery and thus was considered not as important, perhaps why we never really heard abut it.

  • 06.06.2006 2:52 AM PDT

Facts are the enemy of tru7h....

I actually had made a post a while ago in New Mombasa that Waterworks wasn't on earth.... here's the gist of it...

The lightside of the moon is on the wrong side. It should be on the right instead of the left. The only exlanation that i can think of is that the system in which waterworks resides has a binary star off to the left that we cannot see. Hence it cannot be on earth.

Make of it what you will....

-Stu



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Posted by: Sleepystephen
I actually had made a post a while ago in New Mombasa that Waterworks wasn't on earth.... here's the gist of it...

The lightside of the moon is on the wr ong side. It should be on the right instead of the left. The only exlanation that i can think of is that the system in which waterworks resides has a binary star off to the left that we cannot see. Hence it cannot be on earth.

Make of it what you will....

-Stu




i know nothing about astrology so bear with me, but, if the moon was positioned on the other side of the planet could the light be on the other side, dont the lunar phases wax and wane across the whole face of the moon, not just one. is it different depending on what hemisphere your in. does the "lit up" side change when viewing the sun during the day?
so i dont know but

http://www.astro.umd.edu/education/astro/moon/phases.html

this guy seems to agree that different faces of the moon are shown at different times of the month. so it is still plausable that waterworks can still be on earth


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  • 06.06.2006 5:37 AM PDT
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Why does EVERYONE believe there's a Halo INSIDE the Earth? Sure it'd be a great plot twist...

But it makes little to no sense at all.

In the game, the diagrams we see of the Halos show that they orbit planets.

If anything, it'd be inside our MOON not our own planet.

And the way they are designed... It would make little sense to put them inside of a planet or as PART of a planet. They are fortress worlds, created to keep the Flood from spreading, or even getting OFF the ring.

So naturally... There's nothing on the Halos that the Flood could use in order to escape.

We'd have also seen the monitor or some semblance of sentinals or something. The environments of Halo are VERY controlled, and the landscape is CREATED AND MAINTAINED by Forerunner tech.

Nothing like that on Earth.

I do wish people would read the books, play the games until the dialogue is memorized, and get their information from SOMEWHERE other than theories.


And ONI has been interested in Forerunner structures for quite some time. We don't know what they are or anything, that's why we're studying them.

And if the Covenant went to the original Halo because of coordinates found in a rock...

They most certainly came to Earth to find out where Delta Halo is. It fits the pattern. Earth probably does have more significance than that, but... We won't know until Halo 3. Everything else is simply speculation.


And all of the Covenant know this: Sentient creatures are all drawn to Forerunner tech somehow. That's why so many of our colonized planets are riddled with Forerunner structures and the like. We can assume that every race of the Covenant has planets with Forerunner structures on them. And only the Prophets could tell us for sure why we're drawn to such things, when we don't even know they're there. For that piece of information, I consulted the "Conversations From The Universe" booklet I got with my purchase of Halo 2 Limited Edition...

I swear... so few people consult it when it holds such a wealth of information...

  • 06.06.2006 5:41 AM PDT

Facts are the enemy of tru7h....

Posted by: SURLY ARBITER
i know nothing about astrology so bear with me, but, if the moon was positioned on the other side of the planet could the light be on the other side, dont the lunar phases wax and wane across the whole face of the moon, not just one. is it different depending on what hemisphere your in. does the "lit up" side change when viewing the sun during the day?


Regardless... the light is always coming from the Sun. So the 'light' side of the moon is always facing the Sun. Get a torch and a Tennis ball and try it!. The phases of the moon are caused by how much of this light side we see. But in the picture the light side is facing away from the Sun. At least the Sun we can see.

-Stu

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Tai MT, im agreed man, to me it makes no sense to put a halo in earth.

but is your argument against the ark being on earth? i cant tell.

we're workin out wether waterworks is on earth and discussing whether or not it could be related to the ark being on earth (if it is).

so please, flame elsewhere



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Regardless... the light is always coming from the Sun. So the 'light' side of the moon is always facing the Sun. Get a torch and a Tennis ball and try it!. The phases of the moon are caused by how much of this light side we see. But in the picture the light side is facing away from the Sun. At least the Sun we can see.

-Stu


ahh i get u now, i just looked at the pic again.......whats with the 2 suns? or at least 2 sources of light? bungie getting lazy and didnt bother painting a reversed moon? some how i doubt it.......BLAST this will snowball...and it was such a good theory, unless someone else can find another reason for the second light source of light

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I respect your opinion, I'm probably just going to disagree with it.

I agree, flaming is Evil. With a big E.
Well, one thing that Bungie may have taken advantage of is the fact that us Humans have really no proof of what is under the Earth's crust, only a very sound theory. So who knows what is underneath it?

I assumed that the big structure that is on Earth is the Ark, because what else could be activated to end the world? And, the huge hole... was that made by the slipspace rupture of the Covenant ship over New Mombasa?

EDIT
The whole moon thing is carelessness, plain and simple, because the side on which the sun is actually on is dark. Even if it isnt the source lighting up that side, it should at least light up the other side of the moon which is dark.
That makes no sense I know, but what I mean is, the side which should be lit up by the current sun is dark. If that helps.

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  • 06.06.2006 5:53 AM PDT

Facts are the enemy of tru7h....

Posted by: Diaboy
The whole moon thing is carelessness, plain and simple, because the side on which the sun is actually on is dark. Even if it isnt the source lighting up that side, it should at least light up the other side of the moon which is dark.
That makes no sense I know, but what I mean is, the side which should be lit up by the current sun is dark. If that helps.


If i'm reading that correctly you mean that if there were a second Sun/light source, the whole moon would be illuminated??

But it is possible to construct a binary system that would give the desired effect

Again, make of it what you will.

-Stu

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Good post topic creator. Good reasoning, well thought out points, and backed up with evidence. Kudos.

  • 06.06.2006 7:01 AM PDT

Good theory, you're only late by a few years.

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Hmmm....
Waterworks doesn't have to be on earth.

There are a few holes in the ceiling, so what? The ring could be off to the side of one of those big holes.

Not to mention, that's not earth's moon. Throughout the multiplayer maps in Halo 2, the same moon model is used for each map that has a moon in the sky.

And there are more stars than there are grains of sand on this planet, so I highly doubt that the star is our sun...

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its like a large force of win going through fusion, thus creating a chain reaction of a huge asplosion of win destroying any fail within its awesomeness.

Posted by: Tai MT
Why does EVERYONE believe there's a Halo INSIDE the Earth? Sure it'd be a great plot twist...

But it makes little to no sense at all.

In the game, the diagrams we see of the Halos show that they orbit planets.

If anything, it'd be inside our MOON not our own planet.

And the way they are designed... It would make little sense to put them inside of a planet or as PART of a planet. They are fortress worlds, created to keep the Flood from spreading, or even getting OFF the ring.

So naturally... There's nothing on the Halos that the Flood could use in order to escape.

We'd have also seen the monitor or some semblance of sentinals or something. The environments of Halo are VERY controlled, and the landscape is CREATED AND MAINTAINED by Forerunner tech.

Nothing like that on Earth.

I do wish people would read the books, play the games until the dialogue is memorized, and get their information from SOMEWHERE other than theories.


And ONI has been interested in Forerunner structures for quite some time. We don't know what they are or anything, that's why we're studying them.

And if the Covenant went to the original Halo because of coordinates found in a rock...

They most certainly came to Earth to find out where Delta Halo is. It fits the pattern. Earth probably does have more significance than that, but... We won't know until Halo 3. Everything else is simply speculation.


And all of the Covenant know this: Sentient creatures are all drawn to Forerunner tech somehow. That's why so many of our colonized planets are riddled with Forerunner structures and the like. We can assume that every race of the Covenant has planets with Forerunner structures on them. And only the Prophets could tell us for sure why we're drawn to such things, when we don't even know they're there. For that piece of information, I consulted the "Conversations From The Universe" booklet I got with my purchase of Halo 2 Limited Edition...

I swear... so few people consult it when it holds such a wealth of information...


I wish I had it....updating theory now.

  • 06.06.2006 7:47 AM PDT

When you hear the thunder, and see the lightning, get ready...for the perfect storm...

Thats is some theory you got there man. I got to hand it too ya I would never thought of such crazy thing, but you have the proof to show it, but a theory about A Halo in earth? I kinda have second thoughts about that, is there more proof that the theory is more proofible before I can conclude my mind about this very interesting question. Maybe there is more proof in the multiplayer maps than we think. Take a look in the trailer too if there is more evidence to it.

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until now i thought i was the only one with Earth=a halo theory >.< dang it!


Nope. That theory is shared by about half of Bungie members.

We have all made the thread. Is there a Halo inside of earth.?!?
Yeah, a day late and a dollar short.

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Thats is some theory you got there man. I got to hand it too ya I would never thought of such crazy thing, but you have the proof to show it, but a theory about A Halo in earth? I kinda have second thoughts about that, is there more proof that the theory is more proofible before I can conclude my mind about this very interesting question. Maybe there is more proof in the multiplayer maps than we think. Take a look in the trailer too if there is more evidence to it.


Yeah, the only evidence to that that i personalluy have is this....

Evidence-

*The cortana letters. Shes sending urgent news to earth.
*Dr.Hasley takes Kelly to earth to PROTECT IT.(does she know a little more then we think she does?!)
*Cortana in the Halo 3 trailer says, "This is the way the world ends." Meaning the halo inside of earth is the last hope, the only non flodd infested Halo. If they activate it earth would bolow up when the Halo sent out its ppulse thing.
*Would explain the covenants wanting of earth (other then its the human home world)
*Would explain our gravity and the rotation we have, like that of the halos.

Personal Beliefs-

*Halo lies in along the earths equator.
*The structure in the Trailer (Halo 3) was not too far from the equator. I think it was an underground entrance to the rings access tunnels.
*The forunners made an extra halo. They covered it with solid land mass to be discreet and unsuspecting.
*This Halo when activated would shed its outer solid rock shell.
*This halo's blast would wipe out EVERYTHING. SO if the other Halos were never activated then this one could finish the job.

~Finis~

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Posted by: Tai MT
Why does EVERYONE believe there's a Halo INSIDE the Earth? Sure it'd be a great plot twist...

But it makes little to no sense at all.

In the game, the diagrams we see of the Halos show that they orbit planets.

If anything, it'd be inside our MOON not our own planet.

And the way they are designed... It would make little sense to put them inside of a planet or as PART of a planet. They are fortress worlds, created to keep the Flood from spreading, or even getting OFF the ring.

So naturally... There's nothing on the Halos that the Flood could use in order to escape.

We'd have also seen the monitor or some semblance of sentinals or something. The environments of Halo are VERY controlled, and the landscape is CREATED AND MAINTAINED by Forerunner tech.

Nothing like that on Earth.

I do wish people would read the books, play the games until the dialogue is memorized, and get their information from SOMEWHERE other than theories.


And ONI has been interested in Forerunner structures for quite some time. We don't know what they are or anything, that's why we're studying them.

And if the Covenant went to the original Halo because of coordinates found in a rock...

They most certainly came to Earth to find out where Delta Halo is. It fits the pattern. Earth probably does have more significance than that, but... We won't know until Halo 3. Everything else is simply speculation.


And all of the Covenant know this: Sentient creatures are all drawn to Forerunner tech somehow. That's why so many of our colonized planets are riddled with Forerunner structures and the like. We can assume that every race of the Covenant has planets with Forerunner structures on them. And only the Prophets could tell us for sure why we're drawn to such things, when we don't even know they're there. For that piece of information, I consulted the "Conversations From The Universe" booklet I got with my purchase of Halo 2 Limited Edition...

I swear... so few people consult it when it holds such a wealth of information...


Some of us cant memorize dialogue because we have lifes...sorry.

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excellent theory. I now support it.

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Posted by: ROFLmyWAFFLE
excellent theory. I now support it.


Which one.

Halo in Earth?
Or the forunner Waterworks>?

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Posted by: ROFLmyWAFFLE
excellent theory. I now support it.


Which one.

Halo in Earth?
Or the forunner Waterworks>?


The theory the Thread starter made. Waterworks on Earth.

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