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Subject: Two possibilities for Cortana's words in the Trailer

I'd die to become immortal,
That's why I play Halo Reach

I find that there are two possibilities for what Cortana says in the Halo 3 trailer

"I have defied Gods and Demons"

There are two options:
1. The games and books are finally going to merge and to understand the full storyline, you are going to HAVE TO buy the books.

2. The quote is referring to stuff that was completely in the two first Halo games (as well as probably the start of the third) and you don't even need to have read the books for the meaning.

Since Gravemind does not appear in the books (so far...) and since that most people on the forums seem to believe that he has some control over Cortana (which he probably does) i am guessing that the quote has some reference to the games, and probably only very little relevance with the books. If the quote had to do with the books storyline, that's great for me and everyone else who owns the books, but it may be a bit frustrating for those who can't find them and are going to have to rely on Bungie.net for storyline updates.

Bottom line is, i think that the books may not have as much influence on the storling of Halo 3 as everyone says they will. the fourth book may reveal some stuff, but as for a basis for the entire story arc, im not so sure.

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  • 06.05.2006 6:45 PM PDT
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Why does everyone think that it's totally impossible for Bungie to use cinematic elements to explain somethings that are only found in the books? Is there some kind of law against that?

The books and games in conjunction have been building to some things- I think it'd be silly not to use these great tools together. People that are lost can easily be filled in through cut scenes made by Bungie.

  • 06.05.2006 6:57 PM PDT
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Maybe the "Gods" are the Forerunners and the "Demons" are The Flood. ...?

  • 06.05.2006 7:11 PM PDT

You have free time... do you spend it or save it?

probally not, i think that the books will go in a different direction, because Bungie probally doesnt want to be self reliant on other things, they can show their own cinematics and people will be able to understand what happens without reading a book,

  • 06.05.2006 7:15 PM PDT
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I agree with examiner. Nobody wants to go out and HAVE to buy the book. I know for a fact Bungie knows that people wont opt for that aproach. Besides, the games are way more fun.

  • 06.05.2006 7:21 PM PDT

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What are these book things you speak of? Its 2006 we have the internet now.

  • 06.05.2006 7:24 PM PDT

I am a Floodian

she is talking from the view of the covenant to hide what she is meaning,

The covenant call the MC a demon, thus humans are demons

The prophets are gods to the covenant and such

thus she is saying that she has defied humans and the covenant, she has sided with the flood

  • 06.05.2006 7:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: squirrel dude
she is talking from the view of the covenant to hide what she is meaning,

The covenant call the MC a demon, thus humans are demons

The prophets are gods to the covenant and such

thus she is saying that she has defied humans and the covenant, she has sided with the flood


it is grave mind using cortana. think about it. thats the only way to contact chief if you are gm.plus, in the trailer, you can hear gm over cortana. gm is telling mc something

  • 06.05.2006 7:38 PM PDT
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In the trailer, Cortana speaks in a trochaic heptameter, same as Gravemind's macabre poeticness. And who else speaks like that but Gravemind lamenting his demise? Of course, we all know Gravemind can control AIs. Look at 2401 Penitent Tangent!

However, some would disagree. Some speculate that Cortana is at the end of her life and her last words reflect philosophical thinking. Maybe she's saying "We've(MC) been through alot, and I have been your shield and your weapon. I know you better than anyone else, but this is how it ends for me".

I disagree. Look at Bungie's storyboards. Cortana's in agony.

  • 06.05.2006 8:16 PM PDT
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Wow. Or maybe...

Just maybe...
...You won't have to read the books. As a matter of fact, I can guarantee you that gods and demons have nothing to do with the books...
...Maybe you have to go play Bungie's older games...
....Like Marathon...

...To find out that...
Durandal is an AI that goes rampant and says that he has also defied gods and demons, and that 'defied gods and demons' figuratively means 'broken out of one's intended boundaries.'

Seriously. It's all in the first Marathon game, if you want to know. Just beat the first four or five levels, and Durandal starts to say weird stuff.

  • 06.05.2006 8:21 PM PDT
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wow! bungie is repeating crap now. how lame is that?

  • 06.05.2006 8:48 PM PDT

I'd die to become immortal,
That's why I play Halo Reach

I would just like to ask anyone if they ACTUALLY read what i said?

I clearly stated that i DO NOT think that to understand Halo 3, you would need to buy the books. I actually went so far as to say that the books may have very little significance to Halo 3's main story arc.

Read carefully before posting

  • 06.05.2006 8:53 PM PDT
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Bungie isnt "repeating" anything. There's a reason Marathon and Halo have connections. Their stories connect. Like all of Bungies works. There are no coincidences. Bungie is too smart for that. Anything you see and hear has a purpose.

If I remember correctly, Marathon technically takes place long after the events of Halo. Something about future Spartans, far beyond SPARTAN-IIs.

If you don't believe me, look at how many Marathon Symbols appear throughout the Halo Universe. The logo for Combat Evolved had it right in the center.

To think Bungie is just repeating themselves for no real purpose is ignorant. It's not lame. It's Brilliant.

  • 06.05.2006 8:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: squirrel dude
she is talking from the view of the covenant to hide what she is meaning,

The covenant call the MC a demon, thus humans are demons

The prophets are gods to the covenant and such

thus she is saying that she has defied humans and the covenant, she has sided with the flood
Good theory.

  • 06.06.2006 12:41 AM PDT

Posted by: Nautilus
Maybe the "Gods" are the Forerunners and the "Demons" are The Flood. ...?


Gravemind is the Flood leader

[Edited on 6/6/2006]

  • 06.06.2006 1:00 AM PDT
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'Demons' are the humans in case u didnt realize (how sad) and the Gods r probly the forerunners

  • 06.06.2006 4:34 AM PDT
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ah.... i think only master cheif was said to be "the Demon", humans are reclaimers....

  • 06.06.2006 4:51 AM PDT
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yea thats tru i guess

  • 06.06.2006 4:52 AM PDT