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  • Poll [20 votes]: Coop Vs Solo games
Subject: A question for all bungie halo players
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Poll: Coop Vs Solo games  [closed]
Coop rules:  60%
(12 Votes)
Coop is a waste I play by myself:  10%
(2 Votes)
jackel sheilds useble (one handed weapon):  15%
(3 Votes)
sheilds would be lame:  15%
(3 Votes)
Total Votes: 20

Im sorry this is going to be a long post

Ive read in a post that CO-OP in games is not a huge market and that why people dont make games with them? I myself think this is complete bull, I own Halo XBOX and the reason I bought XBOX was HALO and the reason I gor the system is to play Co-op and game in the past that has had coop is more fun than any damn solo lame game. Ok not all coop games are good but to me halo on xbox is the greatest FPS out there and coop is the reason I play it whenever I feel like it, Halo is not going to get boring because of the coop... Until Halo2 comes out only problem there is bungie has not said anything at coop in part 2 and that scares me because lets face it when someone is playing an awsome game and your sitting there watching you wish you can join in and fight along side them. No other game until halo was something Ive played this long and still do me and my borther play it only on legendary and we play to our max. So many times have I played games on systems and once im done with it there done and are boring afterwards for a few reasons. One, the single is done and thats it theres a few ok moments in the game and thats it, its no more fun. But if one other or more could run with you and fight in a group it just makes the game more of a beast than without. So many games state this feature and that new abilty but in the end you play it and return it or store it. Im starting to get sick of this good games coming out and just because they think coop is not worth it there not going to spent the time I hate that.

Halo was a game that was pushed to be done when the Xbox lunched but they still put in coop and tell me what was the reason you got it? was it maybe you and your friend tried the demo and coop and saw how damn awsome and pure fun the game is with one other person. I dont think coop is in low demand its just that were so used to not having it we dont ask for it or push for it. What other things make halo the best game around? How about the melee attack you can do with any weapon anytime and not have to select a weapon for it and waste the time inturn making it lame to use melee in the first place. Another reason this game is so damn fun is the fact that you have recharging sheilds. Half life was a good game but what was one thing you do just asmuch as killing the enemy? Reloading your save just to get throught the part with asmuch health as you can, and I hate that in games. What was funner back in the day playing contra by yourself or you and your friend? 16 bit systems had more 2 player than these sorry games were getting now. Companys boost about what there making and what there doing with the game and in the end the game is a single player lame story and you have no why of beating it without always finding a health pack and all that. FryCry was ok but I got to always find power and its another single player PC title. The fact that in halo I have a melle attack I can use at a moments notice and sheilds that recharge if I let them are to of the biggest and easiest things that can make any damn game good. And coop takes everything to the next level, if halo didnt have coop it wouldve been packed away and hardly played only for the mutli player death match and that has its limits. I play many PC FPS and Im getting sick of hacking and all this that come with it, in halo I can load her up and have a blast in the coop and puch my skills. Were at a low point in gaming I think no more is two player coop a norm its a ghost SNES had more coop than this monster 128 Bit consoles and I think thats sad. Even PC is in a low point its now focus on death match and thats it Half Life 2 is going to be fun but what are you going to do after you beat the game? problem not really go throught it again for a bit. What did you do after you were done halo? Well I took a really short break and start for the beginning again with my bro. "Coop not in demand" Yeah right my ass that one feature alone makes a game twice as good, I love tactical games and running with a team and halo is my first an only love.

Halo 2 is going to be such amazing game even if they dont get coop in there because maybe they just put everything in the multi, but I dont know Im probley wrong because so far Halo2 is everything that halo is and updated its built up every aspect of the first and in every review of halo1 they state how damn fun this game is with coop. Now they showed off the sword and the weapons but me as a halo fan Would want 2 things answered than I could die a happy man. 1 is coop in part 2, and if you people at bungie are not telling us because you want us to burn until lunch and than tell us theres 4 player coop on LAN than I think I would respect and honor you people on a new level because you dont follow all these other companys and only make what they think people want and not what makes a game the greatest it can be. And 2 you lovely people at bungie stated that every weapon is use-able so would that mean the jackels sheilds can be looted and used in affect with another single handed weapon? Why would I want this you ask? well if the sword is not a weapon it would only make sense to add a sheild to it, it would open new tactics and fights the sword is good but what good if your open for attack at range. This new system of dual weilding is going to be damn fun it adds a new level mixing different one handed weapons for effect like plasma pistol and human pistol, sword and shild, and that sexy sub machine gun its the assualt rifle reborn. So in closing I think Coop should be a fricken standerd solo games are boring just have it there so its there dont think theres no market for it, thats like making a game only 4 player battle when its clean it could use a higher limit just look at some of the old classics on NES/SNES double dragon, contra, streets or rage, rainbow6, dealta force, others I cant think of because I havent seen them in so long and halo : ) Its just always put out because it takes more time when a game can just make money being a solo game and thats it. Your telling me you wouldnt go mad if you could play on the same side with 16 other halo spartans and be faced with an endless number of elites hunters grunts jackels coming at you and see how long you and your team can survive? Decent freespace had a game mode were you faced wave upon wave of enemys and thats damn fun when you think its slowed down a carrier warps in and you and your friends need to attack hard and fast. Im getting sick of hacking and much more enjoy a human Vs computer fight but Halo2 is on Xbox live and thats set up good and little worries on hacking and its easy to find and play with friends. Again im sorry if this post was a waste of your time I just wanted to talk about somethings on my mind and see what comes of it just dont waste anymore time cutting me down for something Ive stated just want to know how you feel on Coop in the current game world and if coop didnt impact halo for you, and if you would want the jackels sheild useable It just makes sense "alls fair in love and war"

  • 05.15.2004 9:01 PM PDT
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i didnt even read the whole post but, COOP RULES

  • 05.15.2004 9:17 PM PDT
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This is a tough question but i say co-op kikz a$$

  • 05.15.2004 9:20 PM PDT
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Co-Op does indeed kick ass. It even does a round house to the ass. Over all, while depending on the person playing, Co-Op is just as satisfying as single player. Or more so. Nothing better than getting your bud from behind and igniting all the grenades......

................sweet bliss..............

  • 05.15.2004 9:20 PM PDT
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Ok, at first i agree with you, Co-Op is one of the coolest things a game could have, in fact while reading your long post my friend said, you need more co op games we can play...

i took that as a sign indeed, Co-op is one of the highpoints, but i disagree with you on the 16 players vs never ending swarms of opponents, i like to verse other players, and that is one of the good things about Halo, it didnt have bots, (remembering back to perfect dark, i never vs my friends in that, because we had bots) but halo is better with the vsing friends, if we had bots in Halo 2 the pattern might comp[lete itself, and my freinds and i may never vs each other again (always used to vs each other in Goldeneye).. and from Halo, i learnt that it is more fun vsing friends, even though nothing is on the line (like losing title of the best player) or the challenge isnt as hard.

before i continue, i'll just say, paragraph more, it looks more readable if it isnt just 1 or two great big blocks of text..... i see you added some at what might have been the correct times, (i dont know when to use paragraphs properly) but add them frequently, reading a big block of text can be very hard, as there are constant distractions, and if you have paragraphs, at least you know where you were.

with the jackal shield, i dont beleive it would function, as when you kill a jackal, why does it turn off.... is it because its a trigger, and once the beast dies he lets go, or is it because it doesnt work once he dioed for some reason, all i know is, if it's because of a trigger, wouldn't it get boring (or annoying) just holding the trigger down for 5 minutes while battling wiht a hard opponent.... also, what would happen if it got destroyed, would you just drop it, that wouldnt be fair on your opponent, there would have to be a bad effect that follows, or if not, the weapons wouldnt be fairly balanced...

  • 05.15.2004 9:25 PM PDT
Subject: trigger?
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I think the shield has a trigger or button. In the Fall of Reach book, I think the Chief used a dead jackals shield for a few minutes before disgarding it.

  • 05.15.2004 9:28 PM PDT
Subject: A question for all bungie halo players
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i read your whole post and i agree. halo has many features that puts it head and shoulders above the competition and having coop is one of them.

  • 05.15.2004 9:30 PM PDT
Subject: trigger?

♠The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's friend's enemy♠

Don't worry, Bungie won't leave out Co-op.

  • 05.15.2004 9:39 PM PDT
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Ok First off sorry for the non paragraph typing and all that stuff. Just when I start typing I dont want to stop and keep going. Thank you people for replying and giving me some feed back always nice : ) Yes I agree on the point of when I played perfect dark it was me my bro and 2 cusins Vs the bots and Vs humans is funner but I think for those people out there that dont got Live or other friends to LAN with it would be ok to have. And about the jackels sheild yeah I guess it would unbalnce things but it could have a weak overload point, meaning it could take a few rounds than short out and have to reset like your own sheilds, I think it would fit and work alot of the weapons are going to be damn deadly thats for sure.

We did have more fun with golden Eye than perfect dark thats true. Only reason I stated the unlimited wave fighting is because it would serve as a good way for you and friends to practice and test your skills/ teamwork. I love coop because me and my bro play tacticaly and were deadly. I do play LAN now and again and its damn fun to take on 4vs4 more fun than bots, I dont care for bots in halo but when you want to play a large Vs and cant get the people it would be good to have thats all. And like I said before Im getting sick of hacking on PC would much rather have Halo2 LAN and bots just incase but when Halo2 comes out than Im getting my Xbox Live because I now its going to be worth it.

Im only 20 so Ive played all the old stuff from the late 80s and now and seen my share or trash and I can say that Halo is by far the best game to date just becuse of the melee attacking and the recharging shields those 2 things make the game an unlimited amount of fun and I can make a mistake and regroup and try again. Man why must you be such a sexy beast halo WHY!

Again thanks for the replys and taking the time to read some of the post.

  • 05.15.2004 10:07 PM PDT
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Okay, I voted that I don't like co-op and that I like to play by myself. I like the independence of it all. Besides, if you need to use co-op to beat Legendary, just play both characters at a time (I.E. send in one guy on a suicide mission and kill as many as you can. Then wait till he reappears and send in the next, it's fun)

BUT, I do love co-op. Co-op can really show you how good you are, and how good you think you are. The thing about it, though, is that you have to share! Sharing the game isn't fun when you see a perfectly unsuspecting Elite with his back turned to you and you just want to whack his back, and then your friend opens fire with an assault rifle! Damn that sucks. Or, if you're a noob at Halo, and you decide to play co-op with someone who's played it for a long time (I must admit that I do this) you don't get to kill at all because they do it all for you. (sorry to all the peeps that I didn't let you kill a Covie)

[Edited on 5/15/2004 10:50:23 PM]

  • 05.15.2004 10:45 PM PDT