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Subject: Bungie: Down the line.

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In April of 2010, Bungie announced it's ten year publishing partnership with Activision. Almost immediately after the announcement the conversation on the partnership stuck closely to a debate on the choice of publisher and the effect of going multiplatform. Despite the interesting direction some of these threads took I feel as though we've missed some topics of interest.

Eight years from now I will have reached the age of 28. By that time I hope that I would have started a family, with my time spent here as a distant memory. I'm sure I'll catch a glimpse of the games Bungie produces and maybe, if time permits, I'll play some of them. With Bungie poised to be a top player in the gaming industry I might even find myself playing these games with my children. It's amazing to think that some of the former and more ancient users might be experiencing this during the upcoming releases.

My questions to the community are as follows:

Assuming the child is of age to use the site.

> How would you feel if your child asked you to assist them in making an account for the forums here at BNet?

> Do you think participating in online forums is detrimential or good for development.

> Would you assume the role of a moderator to your child?
--> Would this be a privacy issue?

> Will there be a "Parent" title?

> ect...

  • 05.19.2012 3:13 AM PDT
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1. I would help them I guess. Would be a little weird if I still posted though...

2. After a certain age, it's good.

3. Elaborate?

4. ?

  • 05.19.2012 3:19 AM PDT

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Posted by: jross1993
1. I would help them I guess. Would be a little weird if I still posted though...

2. After a certain age, it's good.

3. Elaborate?

4. ?



Especially if they refuse to use decent grammar and are generally just clueless.

  • 05.19.2012 5:04 AM PDT

I'm an Anarchist. I don't need a government to be a good person, but I'm glad it's here because some of you clearly do.

Assuming the child is of age to use the site.

Q: How would you feel if your child asked you to assist them in making an account for the forums here at BNet?

A: I'd feel obligated to help them set up an account.

If I refuse to help them, they'll probably just find someone else who will and never tell me about it, so if they find inappropriate stuff here, they won't talk to me about it, and things would just end up worse than if I had just helped them make an account and show them that I'm there to help if they need me.

Q: Do you think participating in online forums is detrimential or good for development.

A: I think that depends on what their prime motivation is, whether it be to make some money, to make an awesome game, or to get something on your resume'.

I think that if the ultimate goal is to make something awesome, then community interaction may actually be detrimental. People will always try to tell you that you're doing it wrong, even if they have no idea what they're talking about, and if you listen to them, you may end up with something sub-par.

Take Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker for example. When that game debuted, it was met with mountains of disapproval from fans because of its graphic style. Looking back now, it's one of the most beautiful Zelda games in the series.

PS:

Oh, I see. You meant child development. No, I don't. Can't be any worse than what happens to kids in public schools. Seriously, which is worse, a real life bully who shoves you around and steals your money, or a troll?

Q: Would you assume the role of a moderator to your child?

A: No. I'd assume the roll of Wikipedia, and encourage them to ask me questions about whatever they may find.

Q:Would this be a privacy issue?

A: I assume you mean, would this be a privacy issue for me, as a parent having my child potentially stalking my own account?

Maybe. I'm not embarrassed of anything I've posted, and I wouldn't lie to my child, as I don't lie to any of my three sisters (all of which are 15-19 years younger than I am). I wouldn't have anything to hide.

I suspect it'd be a privacy issue for people who have a troll-side and an IRL-side.

Q:Will there be a 'Parent' title?

A: I really hope not. One of my favorite aspects of the internet is how I can talk and argue with people of all ages. From as young as thirteen to over sixty as equals. There is no "oh, well you're just a kid, so you don't know what you're talking about" on the internet.

On the internet, you generally assume everybody is your own approximate age, unless you're a black sheep (like some of the 40 year old guys here who know for a fact that they're older than the majority) so you treat everybody the same. It's equality at its finest.


[Edited on 05.19.2012 5:32 AM PDT]

  • 05.19.2012 5:23 AM PDT

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Hmm... A parent title would be cool! But only if the kid beats Halo 3 on legendary- otherwise you failed as a parent! JK No, seriously that's a good idea! (:


From as young as thirteen to over sixty as equals. There is no "oh, well you're just a kid-


I just made a thread citing differences between a 90's child and a 00's one... but your right, equality is this site's legacy.

I can't wait till I'm 40... (:

[Edited on 05.19.2012 5:39 AM PDT]

  • 05.19.2012 5:39 AM PDT
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1. I'd be more than happy to help him or her set up an account.

2. I think forums are a great tool to discuss and learn more about a topic, or to interact with a community. Forums (at least for me) are about contributing positive, insightful points to further the discussion in which I am contributing to. I think forums are a good way to teach a child how to think something through, from the actual argument or contribution, to grammar and spelling, to the difference between opinion and fact.

3. Truth be told, I wouldn't let my child on in the first place if I knew he would be a detriment or nuisance to other users. If he or she were to use the site, I would naturally trust them to use his or her own judgement when posting. I intend to be using this site for a long time, so I may very well see my child's posts or threads should they choose to use this site. If they act in a way that I feel the community would frown upon, then I would take action. Otherwise, as I stated previously, I would trust him or her to use the site appropriately.

4. I don't think so, but ten years is a long time, so who knows?

  • 05.19.2012 6:33 AM PDT

Roll the dice, try again.

The most difficult thing will be finding a username that isn't already taken.

  • 05.19.2012 6:37 AM PDT

I'm an Anarchist. I don't need a government to be a good person, but I'm glad it's here because some of you clearly do.


Posted by: UphillMercury
I think forums are a good way to teach a child how to think something through, from the actual argument or contribution, to grammar and spelling, to the difference between opinion and fact.


That's a solid fact. I didn't learn proper and professional English from school. I learned it from the internet.

  • 05.19.2012 7:32 AM PDT

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It's all about age. If the child is old enough then this site is fine (especially compared to most of the internet).

  • 05.19.2012 7:42 AM PDT
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I have one of my kids on Bungie, and I helped them make an account. I let him post in the forums. I do watch his post history (make sure he didn't do anything stupid). I let the mods do their job, and a parent title would be cool.

  • 05.19.2012 7:45 AM PDT
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Don't do anything you wouldn't want to have to explain to paramedics. Trust me, I'm a pilot.


Posted by: Acres 057

Posted by: UphillMercury
I think forums are a good way to teach a child how to think something through, from the actual argument or contribution, to grammar and spelling, to the difference between opinion and fact.


That's a solid fact. I didn't learn proper and professional English from school. I learned it from the internet.


I'll assume you're trolling, so allow me to clarify. Browse through any forum on this site, and you're bound to see poorly-written posts with no facts to back up the poorly-constructed argument that the user proposed. I don't know about you, but I like to take my time creating well thought-out posts. I believe spelling and grammar are important, regardless of where you are using it.

does tis make hert yur eyes? It hurts mine. What I was originally trying to say was that using proper grammar and spelling on the internet is a good habit to get into, so by using it on forums, which are a frequented place on a website, and often require long posts. By instilling good posting habits, I can see no reason why it couldn't help teach a child the aforementioned lessons in my previous post.

[Edited on 05.19.2012 11:24 AM PDT]

  • 05.19.2012 11:23 AM PDT

Posted by: CTN 0452 9
It's all about age. If the child is old enough then this site is fine (especially compared to most of the internet).

Agreed CTN! I'd rather let them make an account here than some other areas of the internet that's for sure.

[Edited on 05.19.2012 12:29 PM PDT]

  • 05.19.2012 12:29 PM PDT
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It's kind of weird to think that they have only a little over seven years left of the contract o.0

  • 05.19.2012 12:30 PM PDT

Spread the love...

It's a long time before I'm going to have any kids. But I wouldn't mind them spending time here :)

  • 05.19.2012 12:32 PM PDT
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Holy hell, I'd have guessed that that was in mid '11 or so.

Where is my life going, and why is it going there so damn quickly?

  • 05.19.2012 12:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sven Nietzsche
> How would you feel if your child asked you to assist them in making an account for the forums here at BNet?

I would be angry because they could easily do it themselves. They wouldn't need me to do it.

> Do you think participating in online forums is detrimential or good for development.It's both. Some posts can hurt it, some posts can help. Thus, in general, it's both.

> Would you assume the role of a moderator to your child?There's already a system in place for moderation, I don't frankly care.
--> Would this be a privacy issue?Nope.

> Will there be a "Parent" title?I hope we would be rid of titles by then.

  • 05.19.2012 12:53 PM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

I joined B.net when I was 12. I don't need no parent mod.

  • 05.19.2012 12:55 PM PDT

Honestly, I think that it would be ridiculous for anyone to restrict their child from a site like this.

First off, its not like there is anything that bad going on here.

Second, sheltering your child is an awful way to have them grow up. They need to learn things on their own. Parents can tell them as much as they can, but more often than not, it won't stick until they experience it first hand.

  • 05.19.2012 1:38 PM PDT

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If my kid wanted to get on here, I'd be ecstatic. I'd start them off with a good goal such as: "If you aren't blue, you're worthless." Or something like that, to keep their spirits high.

  • 05.19.2012 1:40 PM PDT
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Posted by: Rhea
Canada isn't that important that it needs two of the same threads on page one.

1. "No son/daughter, that site and those games are for casuals. Let me show you good games."

2. It allows them to learn and work on their writing skills, so it is a good thing.

3. No, they should learn on their own what to and what not to do.

4. Anything I play, he/she could play. They are -blam!- video games, fake, imaginary worlds.

With that said, I have no intention of having kids or even getting married. I've seen the horrors of marriage, so I will just chill by myself.

[Edited on 05.19.2012 2:03 PM PDT]

  • 05.19.2012 2:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: Bradllez
Members here dont get banned.

They just go missing in action.

So Bungie's next game will have action. At least it's not a game where you watch paint dry.

  • 05.19.2012 6:39 PM PDT


> How would you feel if your child asked you to assist them in making an account for the forums here at BNet?
nope

> Do you think participating in online forums is detrimential or good for development.
yup

> Would you assume the role of a moderator to your child?
--> Would this be a privacy issue?
nope
> Will there be a "Parent" title?
why
> ect...
nope

[Edited on 05.19.2012 6:42 PM PDT]

  • 05.19.2012 6:42 PM PDT

I'm an Anarchist. I don't need a government to be a good person, but I'm glad it's here because some of you clearly do.


Posted by: UphillMercury

Posted by: Acres 057

Posted by: UphillMercury
I think forums are a good way to teach a child how to think something through, from the actual argument or contribution, to grammar and spelling, to the difference between opinion and fact.


That's a solid fact. I didn't learn proper and professional English from school. I learned it from the internet.


I'll assume you're trolling, so allow me to clarify. Browse through any forum on this site, and you're bound to see poorly-written posts with no facts to back up the poorly-constructed argument that the user proposed. I don't know about you, but I like to take my time creating well thought-out posts. I believe spelling and grammar are important, regardless of where you are using it.

does tis make hert yur eyes? It hurts mine. What I was originally trying to say was that using proper grammar and spelling on the internet is a good habit to get into, so by using it on forums, which are a frequented place on a website, and often require long posts. By instilling good posting habits, I can see no reason why it couldn't help teach a child the aforementioned lessons in my previous post.


No, I wasn't trolling. I've never received an A in an English class, but upon applying for an English class in college I qualified for the highest possibly first year class with ease.

Forums, and the internet in general, really are a good place to develop good English. If you're so certain it isn't, look at this thread. Look at your posts and mine.

Consider the positive correlation between higher-ranked members and post quality. The most effective posts are almost always some of the most well-written posts in the thread, excluding forums populated mostly by trolls or raging members. If that's not setting a good example, then I don't know what is.

If I'm totally incorrect, then I'm just spontaneously better at English than the vast majority of internet-using human beings, and I don't think that's the case.

  • 05.20.2012 9:43 PM PDT