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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Eagle read the mission logs, and apparently the events in First strike took place before Halo's destruction. So technically the Halo blew up..but it's still allowing for them to go back.


Eagle is wrong. The event sof Firt STrike take place after the descruction of Alpha Halo.

Again, not time travel, but bending time, it's even stated as that by Halsey in the book..

What Eagle described was time Travel. Look a few posts up for my explanation.

It's the whole reason Chief is back at REACH before Halo blew up

The Chief isn't at Reach before Halo blew up(In FS)

[Edited on 6/6/2006]

  • 06.06.2006 1:32 PM PDT
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nice, and very plusable theory, that would account for the AR

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... Still unimpressed...

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Eagle 117 and Opog are the two best theorists out there. I hope Eagle 117 comes back, because I've seen Opog's posts lately. The crystal "bends time." That sounds a lot like time travel. How else can you live two days and then have 15 go by while it doesn't affect other people. It is time travel. Not in the time machine sort of way though. That's just homo-blam!-.

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head..hurts...soo...badly....

great thoeries but it was hard to follow

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there is no way bungie is going to incorporate a plot that thick involving the books like that into halo 3. it would alienate 85% of the fans of the series. despite how well thought out it was

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Posted by: mmm_ARVO
there is no way bungie is going to incorporate a plot that thick involving the books like that into halo 3. it would alienate 85% of the fans of the series. despite how well thought out it was


* Tartarus
* The Arbiter
* The Prophet of Truth
* Lord Hood

* The Covenant Flagship; Ascendant Justice

* Covenant A.I.s

* Race: Prophets
* Race: Brutes

* Cortana; going whacky (it's hinted at at the end of H2, and in the H3 trailer)

* Johnson; Escaped Halo's blast

* Battle Rifle
* Brute shot
* SMG
* Magnum
* Archer missile pods
* Orbital MAC cannons

* New feature: Dual Wielding

* Time warping crystal; we experience it's effects in Halo 2.

* Ships; dual core, spinning reactors as seen on the PoA; not mentioned in the game but in the book

* Slipspace; jumping from inside an atmosphere

Point is, things from the books will be implemented, and will not need a huge intro. Look at Tartarus, or the Arbiter, or the Prophets

Common sense can tell us most of how and who they are; a cinematic will explain the rest.

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Posted by: mmm_ARVO
there is no way bungie is going to incorporate a plot that thick involving the books like that into halo 3. it would alienate 85% of the fans of the series. despite how well thought out it was


Actually it wouldn't alienate any 'fans'. It might alienate some who never cared about the story in the first place, or made dumb assumptions about the story, but none of the people who paid attention. You might wanna take a look over at HBO's story page before attempting to speak for fans.

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Posted by: mmm_ARVO
there is no way bungie is going to incorporate a plot that thick involving the books like that into halo 3. it would alienate 85% of the fans of the series. despite how well thought out it was


Actually it wouldn't alienate any 'fans'. It might alienate some who never cared about the story in the first place, or made dumb assumptions about the story, but none of the people who paid attention. You might wanna take a look over at HBO's story page before attempting to speak for fans.


Actually, mmm_ARVO may have a point.
Take Halo 2's storyline for example; it was more so in depth than its predecessor, and because of that, people had to think more.
And for the majority of people who bought Halo 2, thinking is a painful experience.

Eagle’s theory has depth to it, so... Well, you can piece the rest together...

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I am Shocked, Shocked! ...well not that shocke, eagle 117 always comes up with concrete and shocking theroies.


EDIT:all the time warping gave me a headache and i couldent understand some parts. thank the gurdians for the short summary.

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the documantart ties in to this theory, a guy says you will finish the fight, not just but ALL OF THEM FROM HALO 1

  • 06.06.2006 7:20 PM PDT

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EXCITING NEW THERORY READ: The Forunners could use a device like the cristal found on the planet reach to travel through time therefore they could end up appering in Halo 3 by using the cristal to travel into the future (100,000 years)

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EXCITING NEW THERORY READ: The Forunners could use a device like the cristal found on the planet reach to travel through time therefore they could end up appering in Halo 3 by using the cristal to travel into the future (100,000 years)

You mean past? And no..it's not possible, since they wouldnt need to go back that far..it wont take them..

Maybe when Cortana says "I know you..your past..your future" she is talking to John on Halo 04..sounds pretty good..

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
You mean past? And no..it's not possible, since they wouldnt need to go back that far..it wont take them..

Maybe when Cortana says "I know you..your past..your future" she is talking to John on Halo 04..sounds pretty good..



That could be, but I think MC would have to have been to Halo and left again before he and Cortana arrive on the PoA. Plus, the Covenant forces have known where the Halos are for a while - you'd think their forces would have been a bit more prepared for the Pillar of Autumn's arrival.

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
You mean past? And no..it's not possible, since they wouldnt need to go back that far..it wont take them..

Maybe when Cortana says "I know you..your past..your future" she is talking to John on Halo 04..sounds pretty good..



That could be, but I think MC would have to have been to Halo and left again before he and Cortana arrive on the PoA. Plus, the Covenant forces have known where the Halos are for a while - you'd think their forces would have been a bit more prepared for the Pillar of Autumn's arrival.

Halo 04 was the first one they found, and they didn't think the humans would've found it too...

I think that when the prophet says the Arbiter was incontrol of the Ascendant justice AND Safeguarding Halo, it means the time loop is really neverending..

The Arbiter was there first in the Ascendant Justice..The Autumn Arrives..Halo CE takes place, good be Halo..the 5 or so Covenant ships blow up with Halo..

Now comes the wierd part..5(?) Covenant vessels enter after Halo blows up, and the Ascendant Justice is part of the fleet. How could this be, if it was most likely blown up with Halo? OR at least stayed in system to try to stop the Chief till the last second, but that wasn't the case..

So the fleet arriving is most likely the fleet that first came to the Halo, shortly before the PoA arrived there, only this fleet gets pwnt and MC jacks one of their ships, while he wasn't even supposed to be there..

And back to my old old theory, since Cortana most likely wouldn'tve been talking to the old Chief (H1), she is most likely talking to Gravemind (Not Master Chief in halo 3)

  • 06.07.2006 9:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Now comes the wierd part..5(?) Covenant vessels enter after Halo blows up, and the Ascendant Justice is part of the fleet. How could this be, if it was most likely blown up with Halo? OR at least stayed in system to try to stop the Chief till the last second, but that wasn't the case....


From the level "keyes"


The Covenant network is in absolute chaos. From what I've been able to piece together, their leadership ordered all ships to abandon Halo when they found the Flood, but they were too late. The Flood overwhelmed this cruiser and disabled it.


The ships may have left Halo when the flood was discovered and then came back once Halo was destroyed.


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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Now comes the wierd part..5(?) Covenant vessels enter after Halo blows up, and the Ascendant Justice is part of the fleet. How could this be, if it was most likely blown up with Halo? OR at least stayed in system to try to stop the Chief till the last second, but that wasn't the case....


From the level "keyes"


The Covenant network is in absolute chaos. From what I've been able to piece together, their leadership ordered all ships to abandon Halo when they found the Flood, but they were too late. The Flood overwhelmed this cruiser and disabled it.


The ships may have left Halo when the flood was discovered and then came back once Halo was destroyed.



Maybe. His theory still makes sense though.

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Hey..what if the "Covenant AI that seems corrupt" and COrtana realizes it to be extremely similar to herself, is actually the Cortana from our timeline who is under Gravemind's control..

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  • 06.07.2006 10:14 AM PDT
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No, Eagles theory does not make sense. There is no time loop, and the events of Firts strike take place after the events of Halo, not before. The crystal bent time, but Alpha has been destroyed, and Cortana finds the covenant AI before she is uses the copying program.

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Also, take into account the Covenant not knowing how to concentrate their plasma weapons like they did in The Fall of REACH until the events of first strike, where the Covie AI gains access to how Cortana did this, and warns the Covenant ships of how to do it (and jump into and out of a planet's atmosphere) and sends a distress call.

Makes you think about that time loop doesn't it..

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Far too long for me, im not an internet fiend, i send my regards to him, chances are hes researching and compsing some new ones in the light of halo2.

BTW: why is this being brought up by someone who knows for sure what he story is, hmmmm............


I don't think GameJunkieJim does know, he is only a moderator of the forums... or does he?

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I can't read, so uhh. Whatev' fool.

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Posted by: Stigibird
Far too long for me, im not an internet fiend, i send my regards to him, chances are hes researching and compsing some new ones in the light of halo2.

BTW: why is this being brought up by someone who knows for sure what he story is, hmmmm............


I don't think GameJunkieJim does know, he is only a moderator of the forums... or does he?

He already said he isn't part of the development team, he only moderates the forums, and they dont tell them the story.

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