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I just viewed the teaser a few times, and I have come to the conclusion that the initial Cortana transmission is not her voice mixed with Gravemind. I believe it's a transmission issue, and the deep voice is just her synthesized voice not transmitting properly. The reason is that I am less inclined to believe that Cortana would have sided or been taken over by Gravemind.

One thing's for sure, that teaser gives me goosebumps every time. Hell it gave my fiancee goosebumps, and she doesn't even know what's going on!

  • 06.06.2006 9:58 AM PDT

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Good point there. Or since Cortana is based on a human she could have gone crazy that made her say all of that "I am your sheild, I am your sword," stuff.

  • 06.06.2006 10:00 AM PDT
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I still don't understand the transmission, the intereverance can be explained, the deep voice as well, but even a ramping AI shouldn't go all medieval knight on you.

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  • 06.06.2006 10:08 AM PDT
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I agree, it is a bit odd. Perhaps the Forerunner data did that to her?

  • 06.06.2006 10:21 AM PDT
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Capt Jean Luc Picard took over Cortana and he is pimping her off to the Klingon's... Her deep voice has been mistaken for Klingon.

  • 06.06.2006 10:26 AM PDT

Doc: "i'm a pacifist"
Caboose: "your a thing that babies suck on?"
Tucker: "no dude, that's a pedephile"
Church: "tucker, i think he means a pacifier"

that is and interesting point abou the gravemind, but i still think that she has gone rampant.

  • 06.06.2006 10:29 AM PDT
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i have an idea, she merged with forrunner tech, now she (they?) are peaking in a medafore.
she will protect .... she will destroy .... she knows whats going down first.
(you see that big ship? not any more BOOM.)

thats about all i got.

  • 06.06.2006 10:33 AM PDT
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I do believe she has gone rampant too. I believe in that fourth stage stuff people have been discussing. However, I believe she "loves" MC based on the books and her experiences with him, thus she cannot destroy him.

  • 06.06.2006 10:33 AM PDT

Doc: "i'm a pacifist"
Caboose: "your a thing that babies suck on?"
Tucker: "no dude, that's a pedephile"
Church: "tucker, i think he means a pacifier"

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i have an idea, she merged with forrunner tech, now she (they?) are peaking in a medafore.
she will protect .... she will destroy .... she knows whats going down first.
(you see that big ship? not any more BOOM.)

thats about all i got.


she merged with forerunner technology? when did that happen? i know she has interacted with it.

  • 06.06.2006 10:34 AM PDT
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by looking at the trailer, i would say that its about half way into the game, so by now she may have had to use or do some thing with forerunner tech and .....


but now im also thinking of this, she is destroying her self to help save the humans in some way, and as it is going on it is distorting her logic (subruteens?) but she is still geting her message out to the MC.

  • 06.06.2006 10:39 AM PDT

Doc: "i'm a pacifist"
Caboose: "your a thing that babies suck on?"
Tucker: "no dude, that's a pedephile"
Church: "tucker, i think he means a pacifier"

i don't think that what she sais in the trailer is an actual message to MC. i think that when you get to that point in the game and see the cut-scene she will not be in it and there will be other minor changes.

  • 06.06.2006 11:27 AM PDT
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I believe that, like the Cortana letters, these transmissions were sent back in time. More on that in my compilation post...

  • 06.06.2006 11:30 AM PDT
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I still don't understand the transmission, the intereverance can be explained, the deep voice as well, but even a ramping AI shouldn't go all medieval knight on you.

How do you know?

  • 06.06.2006 11:33 AM PDT
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Interesting idea, and she's been on delta halo she could merge w/ forerunner tech at any time between the games. I actually think that the forerunner data corrupted her and has begun to bring Cortana to the end of her operational life. Anyone whose read the books know that "Smart" AI's effectively self destruct after 7 years, and when cortana absorbed the installation 4 data she lost a good chunk of her life. Maybe the installation 5 data sent her over the edge.
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Posted by: THESPY46
i have an idea, she merged with forrunner tech, now she (they?) are peaking in a medafore.
she will protect .... she will destroy .... she knows whats going down first.
(you see that big ship? not any more BOOM.)

thats about all i got.


she merged with forerunner technology? when did that happen? i know she has interacted with it.

  • 06.06.2006 12:41 PM PDT
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And through the drifts the snowy cliffs
Did send a dismal sheen:
Nor shapes of men nor beasts we ken—
The ice was all between.

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Capt Jean Luc Picard took over Cortana and he is pimping her off to the Klingon's... Her deep voice has been mistaken for Klingon.


Nah, she justs has a loogie stuck in her throat

  • 06.06.2006 1:09 PM PDT

Due to recent cutbacks, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.

Surely AI's don't go rampant after 7 years, they just 'overthink' till they shutdown

  • 06.06.2006 1:14 PM PDT
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You know, if cortanas talking to grave mind....


I have defied your gods and demons

Gods = Forrunners = 343 Guilty Spark and other constructs like the sentinles left by the forrunner


Demons= Master Cheif?


"ahhh the demon is here!!!! run away run away run away... were all gonna die!"

  • 06.06.2006 1:42 PM PDT
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Perhaps gods & demons refer to the same thing - Forerunners. If the Forerunners genetically engineered the Flood, then decided to wipe out all its food, they could be considered both the gods and demons to the Flood. Perhaps Gravemind is a Forerunner infected by the Flood, thus its peculiar nature and power.

  • 06.06.2006 2:02 PM PDT
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Alright, I don't know what a rampaning contruct sounds like but merging with Forunner tech? We already know what a Forerunner AI sounds like, the Monitors anyone?

  • 06.06.2006 2:05 PM PDT
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i got a nother idea, there was a program in the system of a forerunner ..... instalation,
but some thing got into her main systems and is only now having an effect on her.
some thing that was soposed to have been deleted but wasnt totaly destroyed.

and now its messing with her ... (subruteens?)



(now i know what a AI must feel like at the end of its days as it over thinks its self to death.)

  • 06.06.2006 2:13 PM PDT
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No, that is definently Gravemind's voice in the background, he is communication with Cheif most likely...because he has defied Gods and Demons throughout the milenima he has been around...

  • 06.06.2006 2:29 PM PDT
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Eh, there's no real way to tell until we get more details from Bungie. I just offered my thoughts. I don't see why Cortana would turn on the MC, even if she is rampant. I also don't see how Gravemind could infect her.

  • 06.06.2006 3:00 PM PDT
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One thing in support of her having gone rampant, or crazy as I like to call it, is what I'm about to outline.

For those of you who have read the books, you know that cortana was made using a clone of Dr. Halseys brain. Now, earlier in the books, it said all the cloned replacmentsof the spartans suffered from neurological disorders, and that humans had never successfully cloned a human.

Cortana is, in fact, a copy of a copy.

In first strike, we all say what happens when you use copys of copys. I'm worried that Cortana's orgins might start to manifest themselves in that she has gone insane.

Now, some of you may say that we have never succesfully cloned humans, but human organs. The brain is the most complicated, and the least understood, organ in the human body. If we're skrewing something up when we clone people, it's probobally happaning somewhere up there.

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  • 06.06.2006 3:33 PM PDT
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It's not necessarily Gravemind affecting her when she says all that "medieval" stuff, in the Cortana Letters or whatever there called she says lot of sutff if not identical then very similar, plus as has been posted a million times cortana is a sword the very definition of her name was a sword, shes slowly going a bit crazy and all this grandure stuff is how shes been goin all the way through H1 and 2

  • 06.06.2006 3:41 PM PDT

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