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Subject: Want to build a PC? PC Building Guide and FAQ of The Flood
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Posted by: YahwehFreak4evr
Anyone use watercooling much in here? And if so would you recommend a prebuilt one (ex one of Corsair's models), or a custom loop?
I have no experience with water cooling but I'd suggest a prebuilt solution if it's your first time.

  • 09.01.2012 8:30 PM PDT

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Ok guys, So I was helping this guy gather parts for a build, but I could use a little help myself on this one part.

I need on-board options that do also apply to the BIOS options regarding Power Management. I need an on-board UPS reboot so I have a lasting power supply in the case that I lose my power. I wouldn't mind having a converter with it, so I can also power my modem with it - but I can just use my jumper for that. For the Ultrabook counterpart, long power life is a must - but I can settle for 6 hours (min). And I want lots of different options with that of your automatic Power On, remote Power On, Fast Boot. "You know what I mean?" - L. Mc.


I could really use some help understanding this, I'm pretty lost.

Here's the entire post in case anyone's interested.

I am looking to build or have built a Desktop based system, with a small counterpart type for small jobs which would associate itself (sync) with the main computer. In that, I'm thinking Ultrabook. I'm looking for a computer with the following qualities:

- I tend to browse much of my time when using the computer, so I need one with the capacity to support large amounts of tabs, but browser exceptions in settings to prevent the "oh-so" annoyance of automated refreshing. Which I can fix If that happens to be an issue, though. However, like I said. A computer built for Browsing and for Uploading. I may or may not, run a small hosting of files on the computer (file server).

- I want it fast, most people would. But, money is no object for performance. I want my fast speeds, and I ask for little lag. It is to be strict. The computer also has to be built to handle loads of multitasking when it comes to Multimedia assignments. I do teach classes, so my applications for management are heavy since I'm not such a fan of cloud programs for doing that. I also do a lot of gaming, but nothing too heavy. You know, games like Crysis and Elder Scrolls at their peak. It will need lots of RAM as you would figure.

- I need on-board options that do also apply to the BIOS options regarding Power Management. I need an on-board UPS reboot so I have a lasting power supply in the case that I lose my power. I wouldn't mind having a converter with it, so I can also power my modem with it - but I can just use my jumper for that. For the Ultrabook counterpart, long power life is a must - but I can settle for 6 hours (min). And I want lots of different options with that of your automatic Power On, remote Power On, Fast Boot. "You know what I mean?" - L. Mc.

- It must run Linux or Windows. I will not tolerate with the likes of Apple, at least by usage regardless the facts. Must have at least, a 1-year warranty. As far as extras, I would like it to have a fingerprint scanner built in to it, and a smooth QWERTY. For hope of no-more-bloatware. [God] I hate that.

All in all, a ranging but costly computer system with High Performance and High Battery lifetime. Not much.


[Edited on 09.01.2012 8:35 PM PDT]

  • 09.01.2012 8:35 PM PDT
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Built-in UPS? What?

Those things are massive and expensive.

Ultrabook? He stated he wants a desktop. ASUS has boards with power management, I believe Gigabyte as well.

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For cost-saving, the Radeon HD 7850 isn't that bad of a card for its price right?

[Edited on 09.01.2012 9:00 PM PDT]

  • 09.01.2012 8:38 PM PDT

I got these cheeseburgers man....


Posted by: TheHawk62
Ok guys, So I was helping this guy gather parts for a build, but I could use a little help myself on this one part.

I need on-board options that do also apply to the BIOS options regarding Power Management. I need an on-board UPS reboot so I have a lasting power supply in the case that I lose my power. I wouldn't mind having a converter with it, so I can also power my modem with it - but I can just use my jumper for that. For the Ultrabook counterpart, long power life is a must - but I can settle for 6 hours (min). And I want lots of different options with that of your automatic Power On, remote Power On, Fast Boot. "You know what I mean?" - L. Mc.


I could really use some help understanding this, I'm pretty lost.

Here's the entire post in case anyone's interested.

I am looking to build or have built a Desktop based system, with a small counterpart type for small jobs which would associate itself (sync) with the main computer. In that, I'm thinking Ultrabook. I'm looking for a computer with the following qualities:

- I tend to browse much of my time when using the computer, so I need one with the capacity to support large amounts of tabs, but browser exceptions in settings to prevent the "oh-so" annoyance of automated refreshing. Which I can fix If that happens to be an issue, though. However, like I said. A computer built for Browsing and for Uploading. I may or may not, run a small hosting of files on the computer (file server).

- I want it fast, most people would. But, money is no object for performance. I want my fast speeds, and I ask for little lag. It is to be strict. The computer also has to be built to handle loads of multitasking when it comes to Multimedia assignments. I do teach classes, so my applications for management are heavy since I'm not such a fan of cloud programs for doing that. I also do a lot of gaming, but nothing too heavy. You know, games like Crysis and Elder Scrolls at their peak. It will need lots of RAM as you would figure.

- I need on-board options that do also apply to the BIOS options regarding Power Management. I need an on-board UPS reboot so I have a lasting power supply in the case that I lose my power. I wouldn't mind having a converter with it, so I can also power my modem with it - but I can just use my jumper for that. For the Ultrabook counterpart, long power life is a must - but I can settle for 6 hours (min). And I want lots of different options with that of your automatic Power On, remote Power On, Fast Boot. "You know what I mean?" - L. Mc.

- It must run Linux or Windows. I will not tolerate with the likes of Apple, at least by usage regardless the facts. Must have at least, a 1-year warranty. As far as extras, I would like it to have a fingerprint scanner built in to it, and a smooth QWERTY. For hope of no-more-bloatware. [God] I hate that.

All in all, a ranging but costly computer system with High Performance and High Battery lifetime. Not much.
I understood that post as much as I understand quantum physics.

  • 09.01.2012 9:37 PM PDT

Posted by: TheHawk62
Ok guys, So I was helping this guy gather parts for a build, but I could use a little help myself on this one part.

I could really use some help understanding this, I'm pretty lost.

I don't think the person you're working with quite understands what he is asking for (it doesn't make much sense).

Nonetheless, it sounds like what he wants is for the computer to know when to start powering down. This really depends on the UPS device you buy (not the computer), and it's generally done through some sort of software provided with the UPS device. I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with the BIOS though.

  • 09.01.2012 10:07 PM PDT

Who the hell do you think I am?

A built in finger scanner and a "smooth QWERTY"?

What the hell is that guy talking about?

  • 09.02.2012 6:09 AM PDT

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A finger scanner?! Dude I think you're getting trolled.

  • 09.02.2012 8:08 AM PDT

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Just overclocked my Phenom II X4 965 BE from stock 3.4 GHZ, to 3.8GHz.

I can actually hit 4.0GHz with a little voltage increase, but I'm not really willing to risk that.

I also overclocked my HD 7770 from 1000 Core and 1125 Memory Clock, to 1055 Core and 1300 Memory Clock. Not too much of an increase, but I can make it stable out a little higher.

  • 09.02.2012 8:42 AM PDT

I got these cheeseburgers man....


Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
A built in finger scanner and a "smooth QWERTY"?

What the hell is that guy talking about?
He's either trolling or set his standards waaaaaaaay too high.

  • 09.02.2012 9:29 AM PDT

Who the hell do you think I am?


Posted by: SuicidalSplatter

Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
A built in finger scanner and a "smooth QWERTY"?

What the hell is that guy talking about?
He's either trolling or set his standards waaaaaaaay too high.
Lol.

Or he just has no idea what he's talking about.

  • 09.02.2012 9:35 AM PDT

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Posted by: SuicidalSplatter

Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
A built in finger scanner and a "smooth QWERTY"?

What the hell is that guy talking about?
He's either trolling or set his standards waaaaaaaay too high.
Lol.

Or he just has no idea what he's talking about.

I think those might be requirements for his ultrabook, not his desktop.

  • 09.02.2012 9:39 AM PDT

I am currently running an i7 950 in conjunction with an AMD 6870. Considering that I mostly do gaming, I don't think a CPU upgrade is worth it. I doubt the jump in performance from the i7 950 to Ivy Bridge is worth a whole new motherboard and CPU. So, how significant would the performance jump be if I got just a GTX 680?

  • 09.02.2012 2:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: VaultDweller178
I am currently running an i7 950 in conjunction with an AMD 6870. Considering that I mostly do gaming, I don't think a CPU upgrade is worth it. I doubt the jump in performance from the i7 950 to Ivy Bridge is worth a whole new motherboard and CPU. So, how significant would the performance jump be if I got just a GTX 680?
There would still be a major improvement.

I'm not predicting any bottleneck, the Nehalem i7s still have a lot of life in them.

  • 09.02.2012 2:11 PM PDT

Enough of an improvement to pull off max settings with AA on most games? Also, how does the GTX 680 compare to the AMD 7970? I know that the 680 uses less power and has a higher clock speed. I am just hesitant wary because of the whole gig less of memory. I know that they're pretty similar, but I have heard that the 680 is slightly better.

Aimed at above poster. I forgot to quote.

[Edited on 09.02.2012 2:23 PM PDT]

  • 09.02.2012 2:19 PM PDT
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I'd suggest you go for the GTX 670. Costs less and the GTX 680, form what I've heard, is not a massive improvement over the GTX 670.

Plus, the GTX 670 is parallel with the 7970 in terms of performance.

[Edited on 09.02.2012 2:29 PM PDT]

  • 09.02.2012 2:26 PM PDT

I got these cheeseburgers man....


Posted by: VaultDweller178
Enough of an improvement to pull off max settings with AA on most games? Also, how does the GTX 680 compare to the AMD 7970? I know that the 680 uses less power and has a higher clock speed. I am just hesitant wary because of the whole gig less of memory. I know that they're pretty similar, but I have heard that the 680 is slightly better.

Aimed at above poster. I forgot to quote.
You should get the 670. As the performance jump from the 670 to 680 is only about 5%, with no extra features, and the 680 is $100 dollars more. Unless you really want the small amount of power gain, the 670 is probably the best card out there. Plus, 670 comes with a free Borderlands 2.

  • 09.02.2012 3:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: SuicidalSplatter

Posted by: VaultDweller178
Enough of an improvement to pull off max settings with AA on most games? Also, how does the GTX 680 compare to the AMD 7970? I know that the 680 uses less power and has a higher clock speed. I am just hesitant wary because of the whole gig less of memory. I know that they're pretty similar, but I have heard that the 680 is slightly better.

Aimed at above poster. I forgot to quote.
You should get the 670. As the performance jump from the 670 to 680 is only about 5%, with no extra features, and the 680 is $100 dollars more. Unless you really want the small amount of power gain, the 670 is probably the best card out there. Plus, 670 comes with a free Borderlands 2.
I thought all (newer) NVIDIA cards come with free Borderlans 2?

  • 09.02.2012 3:28 PM PDT

I got these cheeseburgers man....


Posted by: ThirstyAvenge

Posted by: SuicidalSplatter

Posted by: VaultDweller178
Enough of an improvement to pull off max settings with AA on most games? Also, how does the GTX 680 compare to the AMD 7970? I know that the 680 uses less power and has a higher clock speed. I am just hesitant wary because of the whole gig less of memory. I know that they're pretty similar, but I have heard that the 680 is slightly better.

Aimed at above poster. I forgot to quote.
You should get the 670. As the performance jump from the 670 to 680 is only about 5%, with no extra features, and the 680 is $100 dollars more. Unless you really want the small amount of power gain, the 670 is probably the best card out there. Plus, 670 comes with a free Borderlands 2.
I thought all (newer) NVIDIA cards come with free Borderlans 2?
Huh, apparently they all do.

  • 09.02.2012 3:50 PM PDT

Who the hell do you think I am?

I thought just the 660ti came with Borderlands 2?

  • 09.02.2012 6:42 PM PDT

I got these cheeseburgers man....

So, 7870 or 660ti? I can't decide which one for my soon-to-be rig.

  • 09.02.2012 7:13 PM PDT

Who the hell do you think I am?

If it were me I would get a 660ti.

And then we could also play Borderlands 2 together :D

[Edited on 09.02.2012 7:19 PM PDT]

  • 09.02.2012 7:18 PM PDT

I got these cheeseburgers man....

You think they'll still be giving out Borderlands coupons in November/December time?

Also, are you just saying that because of Borderlands, or is it really better?

[Edited on 09.02.2012 7:23 PM PDT]

  • 09.02.2012 7:22 PM PDT

Who the hell do you think I am?

I personally prefer Nvidia products from what I've seen.

A raedon card would probably be better if you were doing crossfire or more than one monitor, but if you were just doing a single monitor on a single card, then I would get a nvidia.

Not that you cant do those with Nvidia cards, just that the technology for multi-monitor setups and crossfire is better with raedon products, while the Nvidia cards themselves are better.

And I don't know how long that deal will last.

[Edited on 09.02.2012 7:29 PM PDT]

  • 09.02.2012 7:28 PM PDT

I got these cheeseburgers man....

Ah. I'll probably just do one monitor for a while, but I do plan on doing dual, probably not triple. How would the 660ti be for dual monitor?

Also, I just checked and the 7870 and 660ti seem to be neck and neck, some games are better for one than the other.

  • 09.02.2012 7:30 PM PDT

Who the hell do you think I am?

There are lots of differences between both brands of cards, some being more capable than the other in plenty of different areas.

I cant remember exactly in which ways they are better than each other, but I do remember that Crossfire technology is slightly more advanced than SLI.

The 660ti could support multiple monitors, sure. If you're getting two, you would use one monitor for the game and the other for browsing the web and such. Although, if you're getting a third monitor you would probably see a large FPS decrease, and you would want to get a second GPU. As long as your MOBO and PSU can handle it efficiently, that is.

  • 09.02.2012 7:37 PM PDT