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Subject: Want to build a PC? PC Building Guide and FAQ of The Flood

I got these cheeseburgers man....


Posted by: crazypandarmada
I have been trying to get it down but I am having a hard time with that.
Also I think I am putting too much into the parts.
And again I have no idea what I am doing.
Honestly, I'm not really good at budget builds. If your 600 needed to include a monitor and OS, I have no clue how you'll be able to do any recent gaming. What I built right here is pretty decent IMO for $600, but someone else might be able to do better.

[Edited on 11.03.2012 4:10 PM PDT]

  • 11.03.2012 4:10 PM PDT

It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank god that such men lived. ----------- No Bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country. (both by George S. Patton jr.)

So what would be the limitations for this computer?
Posted by: SuicidalSplatter

Posted by: crazypandarmada
I have been trying to get it down but I am having a hard time with that.
Also I think I am putting too much into the parts.
And again I have no idea what I am doing.
Honestly, I'm not really good at budget builds. If your 600 needed to include a monitor and OS, I have no clue how you'll be able to do any recent gaming. What I built right here is pretty decent IMO for $600, but someone else might be able to do better.

  • 11.03.2012 4:11 PM PDT

I got these cheeseburgers man....


Posted by: crazypandarmada
So what would be the limitations for this computer?
Posted by: SuicidalSplatter

Posted by: crazypandarmada
I have been trying to get it down but I am having a hard time with that.
Also I think I am putting too much into the parts.
And again I have no idea what I am doing.
Honestly, I'm not really good at budget builds. If your 600 needed to include a monitor and OS, I have no clue how you'll be able to do any recent gaming. What I built right here is pretty decent IMO for $600, but someone else might be able to do better.
Most games probably won't do super well on higher settings, and if they do, with low frame rates and anti-aliasing turned down. 600 is really just an entry level computer. Especially since you still need an OS and monitor, which'll be another 350ish if you decide to buy your OS.

  • 11.03.2012 4:14 PM PDT

It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank god that such men lived. ----------- No Bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country. (both by George S. Patton jr.)

Thank you very much

  • 11.03.2012 4:19 PM PDT

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Better $600 build and cheaper.

7770 benchmarks (keep in mind that I have the GHz edition selected...so add on a few more fps to those results from Anandtech.

  • 11.03.2012 4:27 PM PDT

I got these cheeseburgers man....


Posted by: TopWargamer
Better $600 build and cheaper.

7770 benchmarks (keep in mind that I have the GHz edition selected...so add on a few more fps to those results from Anandtech.
I keep getting linked to the build I made him...

  • 11.03.2012 4:38 PM PDT

Who the hell do you think I am?

Since you don't have an overclockable processor drop the motherboard to an H77. Make sure you absolutely need blueray on your disc drive, otherwise drop it and just get a $20 disc drive. Use the money you save from those to get a better graphics card like the Radeon 7850. Also, change the Hitachi drive to something like a samsung, seagate or western digital.

  • 11.03.2012 4:49 PM PDT


Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
Since you don't have an overclockable processor drop the motherboard to an H77. Make sure you absolutely need blueray on your disc drive, otherwise drop it and just get a $20 disc drive. Use the money you save from those to get a better graphics card like the Radeon 7850. Also, change the Hitachi drive to something like a samsung, seagate or western digital.

Processors can be unlocked

Although, I'd actually recommend getting a good motherboard if you're planning to have ANY upgrades at all

If you want to buy a next-generation processor or want to add more HDDs, the motherboard is what connects to everything and upgrading is a big part of building if you don't want to start from scratch, and the last thing you'd want to replace is the motherboard so you might as well grab a more-tan-decent one

Of course there is no difference without overclocking on chipsets, I'm just saying that overall, a motherboard should be the part you want to last the longest

[Edited on 11.03.2012 4:57 PM PDT]

  • 11.03.2012 4:56 PM PDT

I got these cheeseburgers man....


Posted by: Jet Lockheed

Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
Since you don't have an overclockable processor drop the motherboard to an H77. Make sure you absolutely need blueray on your disc drive, otherwise drop it and just get a $20 disc drive. Use the money you save from those to get a better graphics card like the Radeon 7850. Also, change the Hitachi drive to something like a samsung, seagate or western digital.

Processors can be unlocked

Although, I'd actually recommend getting a good motherboard if you're planning to have ANY upgrades at all

If you want to buy a next-generation processor or want to add more HDDs, the motherboard is what connects to everything and upgrading is a big part of building if you don't want to start from scratch, and the last thing you'd want to replace is the motherboard so you might as well grab a more-tan-decent one

Of course there is no difference without overclocking on chipsets, I'm just saying that overall, a motherboard should be the part you want to last the longest
Right now, current motherboards will soon be out of date as soon as Haswell comes out, since there'll be a new chipset introduced. So, unless you want to wait to buy your computer, a processor upgrade in the future will also require a new mobo.


Posted by: TopWargamer
Better $600 build and cheaper.
By the way, you forgot a case in this build.

[Edited on 11.03.2012 5:01 PM PDT]

  • 11.03.2012 5:00 PM PDT

Who the hell do you think I am?


Posted by: Jet Lockheed

Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
Since you don't have an overclockable processor drop the motherboard to an H77. Make sure you absolutely need blueray on your disc drive, otherwise drop it and just get a $20 disc drive. Use the money you save from those to get a better graphics card like the Radeon 7850. Also, change the Hitachi drive to something like a samsung, seagate or western digital.

Processors can be unlocked

Although, I'd actually recommend getting a good motherboard if you're planning to have ANY upgrades at all

If you want to buy a next-generation processor or want to add more HDDs, the motherboard is what connects to everything and upgrading is a big part of building if you don't want to start from scratch, and the last thing you'd want to replace is the motherboard so you might as well grab a more-tan-decent one

Of course there is no difference without overclocking on chipsets, I'm just saying that overall, a motherboard should be the part you want to last the longest
I'm fairly certain it's not as simple as just unlocking the processor, and if you are planning on overclocking then you would want to get an already unlocked processor in the first place. I suggested he get an H77 instead of a Z77 because the Z77 board only give benefit when you're overclocking, but if you're not overclocking or don't have an unlocked processor then there is no need to buy the Z77 board. There are plenty of H77 boards that allow you to upgrade your video card and still get the best performance out of it, and chances are if you're going to upgrade your processor in the future you wont be doing it on the same socket type, let alone the same motherboard. If he does want to buy a next generation processor later on he would have to buy a new motherboard (and maybe new RAM) too. And you can very easily add more hard drives on an H77 board; you can find plenty with multiple SATA III ports.

  • 11.03.2012 5:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: SuicidalSplatter
Posted by: TopWargamer
Better $600 build and cheaper.
By the way, you forgot a case in this build.

No I didn't...the Corsair 300R is the case in there.

  • 11.03.2012 5:43 PM PDT


Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP

Posted by: Jet Lockheed

Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
Since you don't have an overclockable processor drop the motherboard to an H77. Make sure you absolutely need blueray on your disc drive, otherwise drop it and just get a $20 disc drive. Use the money you save from those to get a better graphics card like the Radeon 7850. Also, change the Hitachi drive to something like a samsung, seagate or western digital.

Processors can be unlocked

Although, I'd actually recommend getting a good motherboard if you're planning to have ANY upgrades at all

If you want to buy a next-generation processor or want to add more HDDs, the motherboard is what connects to everything and upgrading is a big part of building if you don't want to start from scratch, and the last thing you'd want to replace is the motherboard so you might as well grab a more-tan-decent one

Of course there is no difference without overclocking on chipsets, I'm just saying that overall, a motherboard should be the part you want to last the longest
I'm fairly certain it's not as simple as just unlocking the processor, and if you are planning on overclocking then you would want to get an already unlocked processor in the first place. I suggested he get an H77 instead of a Z77 because the Z77 board only give benefit when you're overclocking, but if you're not overclocking or don't have an unlocked processor then there is no need to buy the Z77 board. There are plenty of H77 boards that allow you to upgrade your video card and still get the best performance out of it, and chances are if you're going to upgrade your processor in the future you wont be doing it on the same socket type, let alone the same motherboard. If he does want to buy a next generation processor later on he would have to buy a new motherboard (and maybe new RAM) too. And you can very easily add more hard drives on an H77 board; you can find plenty with multiple SATA III ports.


I explicitly stated I wasn't talking about chipsets

  • 11.03.2012 6:16 PM PDT


Posted by: SuicidalSplatter

Posted by: Jet Lockheed

Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
Since you don't have an overclockable processor drop the motherboard to an H77. Make sure you absolutely need blueray on your disc drive, otherwise drop it and just get a $20 disc drive. Use the money you save from those to get a better graphics card like the Radeon 7850. Also, change the Hitachi drive to something like a samsung, seagate or western digital.

Processors can be unlocked

Although, I'd actually recommend getting a good motherboard if you're planning to have ANY upgrades at all

If you want to buy a next-generation processor or want to add more HDDs, the motherboard is what connects to everything and upgrading is a big part of building if you don't want to start from scratch, and the last thing you'd want to replace is the motherboard so you might as well grab a more-tan-decent one

Of course there is no difference without overclocking on chipsets, I'm just saying that overall, a motherboard should be the part you want to last the longest
Right now, current motherboards will soon be out of date as soon as Haswell comes out, since there'll be a new chipset introduced. So, unless you want to wait to buy your computer, a processor upgrade in the future will also require a new mobo.


For intel it will be

  • 11.03.2012 6:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: crazypandarmada
Is this pc good for gaming?
Can I put a cheaper part in for nearly the same performance?
Am I putting to much RAM, Memory ect into it?
Can you tell I have no idea what I am doing? 8)
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/moVK
That's not too terrible, but I can spice it up a bit.

Here's mine. You can downgrade the mobo and grab a 7850 instead, although that means you would want to upgrade the mobo in the future. You also need a cheap power cord since the PSU doesn't come with one, but $5 can cover that.

  • 11.03.2012 9:03 PM PDT
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I like Cheese

Hey guys, check out this sweet GTA IV screenshot someone on /v/ made.

  • 11.03.2012 9:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: thebig100
Hey guys, check out this sweet GTA IV screenshot someone on /v/ made.


Is that RealityIV?
Looks the same.

  • 11.03.2012 9:19 PM PDT
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I like Cheese


Posted by: jew man man

Posted by: thebig100
Hey guys, check out this sweet GTA IV screenshot someone on /v/ made.


Is that RealityIV?
Looks the same.
Yes, but with a combination of ICEenchancer and RealityIV.

  • 11.03.2012 9:23 PM PDT

I got these cheeseburgers man....


Posted by: TopWargamer

Posted by: SuicidalSplatter
Posted by: TopWargamer
Better $600 build and cheaper.
By the way, you forgot a case in this build.

No I didn't...the Corsair 300R is the case in there.
Are we looking at the same link?

  • 11.03.2012 10:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: SuicidalSplatter

Posted by: TopWargamer

Posted by: SuicidalSplatter
Posted by: TopWargamer
Better $600 build and cheaper.
By the way, you forgot a case in this build.

No I didn't...the Corsair 300R is the case in there.
Are we looking at the same link?

No....not even close....

  • 11.03.2012 10:36 PM PDT

What would you guys rate the 660ti out of 10?

And is anyone else getting horrible FPS drops on Need For Speed Most Wanted?

  • 11.03.2012 10:53 PM PDT

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I don't have ratings, but here are some benches of it compared to the 7950, AMD's similarly-priced card.

  • 11.03.2012 10:59 PM PDT
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Never had the 660 Ti. I have the 7950, it's a good card. Even better with the 12.11 (still beta though) drivers.

  • 11.04.2012 2:58 AM PDT

FLOOD QUOTES!
Posted by: G3N3RAL R3VAN
The Flood....... if it doesn't go anywhere else, stick it her pooper
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Idiots. I'm surrounded by idiots
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the flood, there a bunch of jerks, but there my jerks.


Posted by: TopWargamer

Posted by: SuicidalSplatter

Posted by: TopWargamer

Posted by: SuicidalSplatter
Posted by: TopWargamer
Better $600 build and cheaper.
By the way, you forgot a case in this build.

No I didn't...the Corsair 300R is the case in there.
Are we looking at the same link?

No....not even close....

You geniuses linked it to your system builds!! You have to save it, then link the build!! lollol!

  • 11.04.2012 3:58 AM PDT

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One does not simply get rid of TopWargamer so easily.
You know this to be true.
ALL HAIL GABEN

I did save mine.....I linked it....and now it's not coming up.

>:o

Looks like I have to remake it...

  • 11.04.2012 8:32 AM PDT

I got these cheeseburgers man....


Posted by: Ferrari DuDe856

Posted by: TopWargamer

Posted by: SuicidalSplatter

Posted by: TopWargamer

Posted by: SuicidalSplatter
By the way, you forgot a case in this build.

No I didn't...the Corsair 300R is the case in there.
Are we looking at the same link?

No....not even close....

You geniuses linked it to your system builds!! You have to save it, then link the build!! lollol!
I did link the correct build, he didn't.

  • 11.04.2012 8:37 AM PDT