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Subject: Want to build a PC? PC Building Guide and FAQ of The Flood

I got these cheeseburgers man....


Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP

Posted by: SuicidalSplatter

Posted by: PMC Fluffy
Newegg actually has some pretty good deals.

G.Skill Ripjaws X 2x8GB @ 1600 MHz
G.Skill Ripjaws X 2x4GB @ 1600 MHz
G.Skill Sniper 2x8GB @ 1600 MHz
G.Skill Sniper 2x4GB @ 2133 MHz
Noctua NH-D14
SeaSonic X650 Gold
Super cool PSU
32GB USB3 flash drive
750GB USB3 external HDD
AsRock Z77 Extreme4 back in stock
Corsair 500R

God that's such a good deal for that PSU. How much better would that PSU be compared to that exact model, but only 80plus bronze?

Alright, but here's the photos I told you guys I'd put up:
Case in store.
Corsair yada yada 8GB DDR3 1600.
Asrock Extreme 4, it was an incredibly good deal. You'll see the price in the last pic.
Case at home. It's actually black, the box just seems to show off the white one.
Another great deal.
And last but not least, the grand total and cost of each part!
Man, those are some pretty awesome deals. Nice job. And when I got my Phantom 410 it was black too, Microcenter was out of the white ones (there's actually a sticker on the side of the box that indicates what color it is)
Huh, mine didn't have that sticker, but where the handles were, I could peak inside and see it was black.

  • 11.26.2012 5:18 PM PDT

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I'll be building this computer for my friend next Friday and this one for my grandpa. I was going to take pictures, but should I bother with a video? There's a girl coming along so she can work the camera.

[Edited on 11.26.2012 5:50 PM PST]

  • 11.26.2012 5:50 PM PDT

Who the hell do you think I am?


Posted by: PMC Fluffy
I'll be building this computer for my friend next Friday and this one for my grandpa. I was going to take pictures, but should I bother with a video? There's a girl coming along so she can work the camera.
If you spent like $50 or $60 less on the motherboard, which would still be good for your friend, you could bump that graphics card up to a 7950.

And why a Z77 and an aftermarket cooler with a 2310?

[Edited on 11.26.2012 5:55 PM PST]

  • 11.26.2012 5:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
Posted by: PMC Fluffy
I'll be building this computer for my friend next Friday and this one for my grandpa. I was going to take pictures, but should I bother with a video? There's a girl coming along so she can work the camera.
If you spent like $50 or $60 less on the motherboard, which would still be good for your friend, you could bump that graphics card up to a 7950.

And why a Z77 and an aftermarket cooler with a 2310?
You see, I could, but motherboards last multiple builds. In one year, the 7950 would already have a replacement which he could upgrade to. If I wanted to upgrade the mobo to something new-gen in the future, I'd have to have him get a new CPU and RAM as well with the release of Haswell and DDR4. I've actually OC'd a friend's 7850 to 7950 speeds with only a 3*C increase in temperature. It's not worth the extra $100 for a slightly quieter and cooler card.

And the HSF is because (1) it was only $15 and (2) it will run quieter, produce less heat, and be more efficient, which while this does not affect the CPU itself, will allow me to divert more power to the GPU. I'm planning on getting it from 860 MHz to 1200-1400, as I've done it before.

[Edited on 11.26.2012 5:59 PM PST]

  • 11.26.2012 5:59 PM PDT

Who the hell do you think I am?

But if the next time you're going to upgrade the mother is with the next generation, and the same with the GPU, you might as well just buy the better GPU now since it would be the same price. And I've never heard of someone overclocking a 7850 to a 7950's speeds. I thought it was in an entirely different league. I guess if it's an non-reference card it will overclock better, but 1200 and even 1400 seems like it would get pretty hot.

But I can understand the HSF, I would probably do the same too.

  • 11.26.2012 6:07 PM PDT

You're like a slinky. Good for nothing, but you bring a smile to my face when I push you down the stairs.

Hey guys, if my PSU is NOT modular, is there any way for me to connect a fan to the PSU? I was looking at a mobo but it only has 3 fan things. If I can't, then do you know of any boards that have at least 5 fan connectors (that is less than $150)?

  • 11.26.2012 6:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: Marvelous Bauble
Hey guys, if my PSU is NOT modular, is there any way for me to connect a fan to the PSU? I was looking at a mobo but it only has 3 fan things. If I can't, then do you know of any boards that have at least 5 fan connectors (that is less than $150)?
Most mobos only have between 3 or 4 case fan headers.

  • 11.26.2012 6:12 PM PDT

Who the hell do you think I am?


Posted by: Marvelous Bauble
Hey guys, if my PSU is NOT modular, is there any way for me to connect a fan to the PSU? I was looking at a mobo but it only has 3 fan things. If I can't, then do you know of any boards that have at least 5 fan connectors (that is less than $150)?
Well, if the fan runs off a molex connecter then the PSU will likely have plenty of those cables.

  • 11.26.2012 6:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
But if the next time you're going to upgrade the mother is with the next generation, and the same with the GPU, you might as well just buy the better GPU now since it would be the same price.
You missed my point entirely. He does NOT want to upgrade the mobo, ram, and CPU with the next gen, so he's investing in those three things now, and will have more money in the future for when the 7xx/8xxx series comes out.

And I've never heard of someone overclocking a 7850 to a 7950's speeds. I thought it was in an entirely different league.Uhh, Google? If you know how to overclock, any non-reference 7850 can hit those speeds easily. This isn't nVidia.

I guess if it's an non-reference card it will overclock better, but 1200 and even 1400 seems like it would get pretty hot.You'd think, but the 7850 is perfect for overclocking. The 7870 is actually worse for it.

But I can understand the HSF, I would probably do the same too.If it was a sub-$700 build, it wouldn't be worth it, as that could provide a better PSU, case, or RAM, but for a $1000 build, why not?

  • 11.26.2012 6:14 PM PDT

Who the hell do you think I am?


Posted by: PMC Fluffy
Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
But if the next time you're going to upgrade the mother is with the next generation, and the same with the GPU, you might as well just buy the better GPU now since it would be the same price.
You missed my point entirely. He does NOT want to upgrade the mobo, ram, and CPU with the next gen, so he's investing in those three things now, and will have more money in the future for when the 7xx/8xxx series comes out.

And I've never heard of someone overclocking a 7850 to a 7950's speeds. I thought it was in an entirely different league.Uhh, Google? If you know how to overclock, any non-reference 7850 can hit those speeds easily. This isn't nVidia.

I guess if it's an non-reference card it will overclock better, but 1200 and even 1400 seems like it would get pretty hot.You'd think, but the 7850 is perfect for overclocking. The 7870 is actually worse for it.

But I can understand the HSF, I would probably do the same too.If it was a sub-$700 build, it wouldn't be worth it, as that could provide a better PSU, case, or RAM, but for a $1000 build, why not?
Okay, I can see what you're saying. But if he doesn't want to upgrade the CPU, Mobo, RAM or any of those then shouldn't the i5 at least be an ivy bridge?

  • 11.26.2012 6:16 PM PDT

You're like a slinky. Good for nothing, but you bring a smile to my face when I push you down the stairs.


Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP

Posted by: Marvelous Bauble
Hey guys, if my PSU is NOT modular, is there any way for me to connect a fan to the PSU? I was looking at a mobo but it only has 3 fan things. If I can't, then do you know of any boards that have at least 5 fan connectors (that is less than $150)?
Well, if the fan runs off a molex connecter then the PSU will likely have plenty of those cables.
Oh yeah I have a lot of those.

  • 11.26.2012 6:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
Okay, I can see what you're saying. But if he doesn't want to upgrade the CPU, Mobo, RAM or any of those then shouldn't the i5 at least be an ivy bridge?
It's being pulled out of his prebuilt computer.

  • 11.26.2012 6:22 PM PDT

Who the hell do you think I am?


Posted by: PMC Fluffy
Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
Okay, I can see what you're saying. But if he doesn't want to upgrade the CPU, Mobo, RAM or any of those then shouldn't the i5 at least be an ivy bridge?
It's being pulled out of his prebuilt computer.
Then... If you're cutting that price out of the equation, and you said he was spending $1000 still wouldn't it make sense to get a 7970 of 670 FTW? I can understand waiting for the next generation of cards if you don't have the money yet but otherwise he will be waiting a while.

  • 11.26.2012 6:25 PM PDT

I got these cheeseburgers man....

Why are you giving your grandpa 8GBs of RAM? He really only needs 4. What's he doing? Just simple email and web browsing?

  • 11.26.2012 6:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
Posted by: PMC Fluffy
Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
Okay, I can see what you're saying. But if he doesn't want to upgrade the CPU, Mobo, RAM or any of those then shouldn't the i5 at least be an ivy bridge?
It's being pulled out of his prebuilt computer.
Then... If you're cutting that price out of the equation, and you said he was spending $1000 still wouldn't it make sense to get a 7970 of 670 FTW? I can understand waiting for the next generation of cards if you don't have the money yet but otherwise he will be waiting a while.
You don't have to play all games at max settings. He needs to save money because... Well in short, he's my best friend, and he's dating this girl, whose sister is my girlfriend. We need money for double dates and stuff. If we have to sacrifice a worse graphics card for a few good nights out, so be it.

Posted by: SuicidalSplatter
Why are you giving your grandpa 8GBs of RAM? He really only needs 4. What's he doing? Just simple email and web browsing?
He runs triple monitors and does video editing, so I figured for $25, it's better than spending $20 on 4GB.

  • 11.26.2012 6:29 PM PDT

Who the hell do you think I am?


Posted by: PMC Fluffy
Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
Posted by: PMC Fluffy
Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
Okay, I can see what you're saying. But if he doesn't want to upgrade the CPU, Mobo, RAM or any of those then shouldn't the i5 at least be an ivy bridge?
It's being pulled out of his prebuilt computer.
Then... If you're cutting that price out of the equation, and you said he was spending $1000 still wouldn't it make sense to get a 7970 of 670 FTW? I can understand waiting for the next generation of cards if you don't have the money yet but otherwise he will be waiting a while.
You don't have to play all games at max settings. He needs to save money because... Well in short, he's my best friend, and he's dating this girl, whose sister is my girlfriend. We need money for double dates and stuff. If we have to sacrifice a worse graphics card for a few good nights out, so be it.

Posted by: SuicidalSplatter
Why are you giving your grandpa 8GBs of RAM? He really only needs 4. What's he doing? Just simple email and web browsing?
He runs triple monitors and does video editing, so I figured for $25, it's better than spending $20 on 4GB.
But girls have cooties, dude...

And Intel HD graphics can run triple monitors? Did not know that.

  • 11.26.2012 6:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
But girls have cooties, dude...

And Intel HD graphics can run triple monitors? Did not know that.
They can, so long as you aren't gaming with them.

And you'll understand when you're older ;)

[Edited on 11.26.2012 6:33 PM PST]

  • 11.26.2012 6:33 PM PDT

<3 THE SALTY CHIP

...

What about quad monitors?

  • 11.26.2012 6:34 PM PDT

Who the hell do you think I am?


Posted by: PMC Fluffy
Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
But girls have cooties, dude...

And Intel HD graphics can run triple monitors? Did not know that.
They can, so long as you aren't gaming with them.

And you'll understand when you're older ;)
Duhh.

And I'm old enough to understand that shinier electronic toys are more important :|

  • 11.26.2012 6:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: XxJakeMasterxX
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What about quad monitors?
His mobo only has an HDMI, DVI, and VGA port. Normally, you can't use DVI and HDMI at the same time with an iGPU, but he did some coding in Linux and figured out how to make it work. He writes his own drivers for his hardware.

  • 11.26.2012 6:36 PM PDT

I got these cheeseburgers man....


Posted by: PMC Fluffy
Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
Posted by: PMC Fluffy
Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
Okay, I can see what you're saying. But if he doesn't want to upgrade the CPU, Mobo, RAM or any of those then shouldn't the i5 at least be an ivy bridge?
It's being pulled out of his prebuilt computer.
Then... If you're cutting that price out of the equation, and you said he was spending $1000 still wouldn't it make sense to get a 7970 of 670 FTW? I can understand waiting for the next generation of cards if you don't have the money yet but otherwise he will be waiting a while.
You don't have to play all games at max settings. He needs to save money because... Well in short, he's my best friend, and he's dating this girl, whose sister is my girlfriend. We need money for double dates and stuff. If we have to sacrifice a worse graphics card for a few good nights out, so be it.

Posted by: SuicidalSplatter
Why are you giving your grandpa 8GBs of RAM? He really only needs 4. What's he doing? Just simple email and web browsing?
He runs triple monitors and does video editing, so I figured for $25, it's better than spending $20 on 4GB.
Grandpa Fluffy sounds like a pretty cool guy.

  • 11.26.2012 6:37 PM PDT

Who the hell do you think I am?

Your grandpa sounds like a badass. geez

  • 11.26.2012 6:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: SuicidalSplatter
Grandpa Fluffy sounds like a pretty cool guy.
He's a pretty cool guy. He still plays Star Wars: Dark Forces on his old DOS computer, but I also taught him how to play GoW 3. I have a whole slew of stories about him, but I'll save that for another time.

  • 11.26.2012 6:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: PMC Fluffy
Posted by: SuicidalSplatter
Grandpa Fluffy sounds like a pretty cool guy.
He's a pretty cool guy. He still plays Star Wars: Dark Forces on his old DOS computer, but I also taught him how to play GoW 3. I have a whole slew of stories about him, but I'll save that for another time.
Now, that's one badass grandpa.

Anyway.

Damn it, Intel...

  • 11.26.2012 6:40 PM PDT

You're like a slinky. Good for nothing, but you bring a smile to my face when I push you down the stairs.

hey guys. Aren't there stability issues with Ram that has a speed above 1600? I ordered this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168202314 55&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-n a-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID= and it has a speed of 1866...

Can I just "plug and play" with this or do I need to make adjustments?

  • 11.26.2012 6:41 PM PDT