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Subject: Want to build a PC? PC Building Guide and FAQ of The Flood

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Posted by: SuicidalSplatter
I'd recommend going for the 7850.
Yeah, but we're already going over the budget as is. If he were able to scavange some hard drives out of any old computers (unless they were really old or slow) then he could use that and buy the 1TB later. Otherwise, this is probably the best you can do for $500.

  • 12.24.2012 11:00 AM PDT
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I'll most likely go with your build, salty.

Thank you.

  • 12.24.2012 11:04 AM PDT

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Posted by: SuicidalSplatter
Should I stress test my CPU or anything when I get everything running for the first time?

You should let the thermal paste sink in and settle fully. This time period varies depending on the thermal paste you used, and you should refer to the instructions provided by the maker.
So, don't stress test until the thermal paste is fully settled?
The thermal paste should have fully spread if you tightened the backplate in a diagonal order. Stress testing would cause the CPU to produce a lot more heat, forcing the thermal paste to settle out more.

Posted by: Pride
How much would a PC with console tier graphics cost?
This would still run games bettter. It's better in ever field except for the CPU, and that doesn't matter when it comes down to graphics as much.

Posted by: ABotelho
Not my picture as mine is currently installed and I just woke up. I didn't even take into consideration whether the backplate was touching any metal on the motherboard, either. I'm assuming that would also cause problems.

The red area is where I'm having conflicts. The circuits in the area raise the backplate, actually making the bolt not long enough to reach the nut. I get the impression Asus didn't want aftermarket CPU coolers on this motherboard.

The green area is one of the things I was asking about. If I were to put something non-conductive on the bottom of the case actually holding up those areas, would it not work?
It would not work because it would not give the heatsink enough pressure to make proper contact with the CPU. If you can return the heatsink, you can get a different one that works. If not, you can try cutting off the areas on the backplate that conflict with the mobo.

Posted by: XoG Suppressor
I'll never understand why Nvidia is so popular ITT.
> Their 6xx series came out before the 7xxx series, so people who upgraded sooner got their cards earlier.
> When the 7xxx series came out, the drivers were originally riddled with bugs, giving AMD a bad name.
> Under the original prices, nVidia was a better price/performance ratio. This did not change until a few months ago when AMD lowered their prices.
> Some people require CUDA, adaptive VSynch, CSAA, etc.
> nVidia's 3D is better than AMD's.
> Not everyone uses more than one monitor.
> EVGA doesn't make AMD cards, and they offer lifetime warranties and an upgrade plan. XFX is the only AMD card to match the warranties (on their Double D cards)

At this point, AMD is the better choice if you don't need any of the above or use more than one monitor. If we're talking about the high-end cards like the 670 vs 7970, both cards can reach such high FPS's that it only truly matters if you own a 120 Hz monitor.

[Edited on 12.24.2012 11:08 AM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 11:07 AM PDT

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Posted by: Pride
I'll most likely go with your build, salty.

Thank you.
Awesome. If you need any help assembling it, feel free to ask any of us. Also, newegg has a couple great videos on guiding through new builders, so check those out too.

  • 12.24.2012 11:09 AM PDT
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Posted by: PMC Fluffy
This would still run games bettter. It's better in ever field except for the CPU, and that doesn't matter when it comes down to graphics as much.
Hmm... This one is cheaper. I could buy more games with the money I save...

[Edited on 12.24.2012 11:12 AM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 11:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: Pride

Posted by: PMC Fluffy
This would still run games bettter. It's better in ever field except for the CPU, and that doesn't matter when it comes down to graphics as much.
Hmm... This one is cheaper. I could buy more games with the money I save...
That one is good too, but it's $350 and since you said your budget was $400 I would spend a little more on the PSU, and for $10 more you can get a 1TB seagate instead of the 500GB.

  • 12.24.2012 11:14 AM PDT
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Wait, I noticed PMC's doesn't have anything for memory.

  • 12.24.2012 11:19 AM PDT

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Posted by: Pride
Wait, I noticed PMC's doesn't have anything for memory.
Oh yeah, there's no RAM there.

If you went with my build it would have a better processor, motherboard, video card, more HDD space. It isn't better by a huge amount, but it would last you longer than his.

  • 12.24.2012 11:24 AM PDT

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Posted by: THE SALTY CHIP
Posted by: Pride
Wait, I noticed PMC's doesn't have anything for memory.
Oh yeah, there's no RAM there.

If you went with my build it would have a better processor, motherboard, video card, more HDD space. It isn't better by a huge amount, but it would last you longer than his.
It was a joke about the Xbox only having 512mb of RAM...

Salty's build is fine.

  • 12.24.2012 11:36 AM PDT
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Oh...

Thank you guys.

  • 12.24.2012 11:38 AM PDT


Posted by: PMC Fluffy
It would not work because it would not give the heatsink enough pressure to make proper contact with the CPU. If you can return the heatsink, you can get a different one that works. If not, you can try cutting off the areas on the backplate that conflict with the mobo.

I would still be securing the heatsink by replacing the backplate with rubber washers. Wouldn't that provide enough pressure? Isn't the purpose of the backplate only to stiffen the motherboard for supporting the extra weight of the heavy heatsink? After all, pushpin heatsinks do give enough pressure, and they don't have backplates Am I just understanding this wrong?

The problem I'm having with returning it is that apparently, there are very little decent heatsinks that work, because of the backplates. Plus, the Hyper 212+ is such a good price.

  • 12.24.2012 12:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: Pride

Bloop

Just throwing out my 2 cents for a cheap build for you....cause I believe that's what you are looking for?

[Edited on 12.24.2012 12:25 PM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 12:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: Pride

Bloop

Just throwing out my 2 cents for a cheap build for you....cause I believe that's what you are looking for?
I think he was going to get this.

That's still a good build, but for gaming I would make the RAM 2133 since it would be a great benefit to an APU. Oh nevermind, 1866 would be good enough, didn't see that.

[Edited on 12.24.2012 12:32 PM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 12:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: Pride

Bloop

Just throwing out my 2 cents for a cheap build for you....cause I believe that's what you are looking for?
I think he was going to get this.

That's still a good build, but for gaming I would make the RAM 2133 since it would be a great benefit to an APU.

Well ya....but 1866 is still good enough for an APU...plus it was only $19 and from Crucial.

Also...My $500ish build.

  • 12.24.2012 12:38 PM PDT

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500R on sale.

G9X also dropped in price.

  • 12.24.2012 1:34 PM PDT

Is this cooler any good? How does it compare to the Hyper 212+?

If not, anybody know of an alternative way to mount the Hyper 212+?

[Edited on 12.24.2012 1:37 PM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 1:36 PM PDT

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You wouldn't be able to use washers because they aren't insulated, unless you did that yourself. You need the backplate to keep the mobo from bending under the weight.

I've never heard of the one that you posted, although I don't see any issues with it.

  • 12.24.2012 1:49 PM PDT

Looking for 500 to 800 high/ ultra settings planet side 2 battlefield 3?

  • 12.24.2012 1:51 PM PDT


Posted by: PMC Fluffy
You wouldn't be able to use washers because they aren't insulated, unless you did that yourself. You need the backplate to keep the mobo from bending under the weight.

I've never heard of the one that you posted, although I don't see any issues with it.

Rubbers washers aren't considered insulated?

The green areas is what I meant for the bending. Having some sort of blocks or something at the bottom of the case holding up the motherboard.

  • 12.24.2012 1:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: AK FROST
Looking for 500 to 800 high/ ultra settings planet side 2 battlefield 3?
This would be a good build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tX1o

  • 12.24.2012 2:00 PM PDT

-blam!- this -blam!-. I'm just going to buy the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro. It seems to be getting good reviews, and I doubt I'll ever do very much overclocking if at all, so having a super powerful cooler isn't really necessary.

Built a PC for my cousin a few months back, he still uses the stock cooler. I'll see if he'll buy the Hyper 212+ off me. He's got a full ATX motherboard, so there should be no problems.

[Edited on 12.24.2012 2:44 PM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 2:43 PM PDT

Anyone know the wattage of the BitFenix Prodigy stock fans?

  • 12.24.2012 3:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: ABotelho
Anyone know the wattage of the BitFenix Prodigy stock fans?
Probably very very little, just like any other case fan. Why do you ask?

  • 12.24.2012 3:30 PM PDT


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Posted by: ABotelho
Anyone know the wattage of the BitFenix Prodigy stock fans?
Probably very very little, just like any other case fan. Why do you ask?

Thinking about getting a controller with one channel to control 2 fans.

I'd want something like this plugged to the PSU, then split with a 'y' cable to control my 2 fans large case fans. Then I'd plug a third small fan directly to the motherboard to control it from the BIOS.

Does that sound like it would work? Two case fans controlled by the physical controller, then a third smaller fan controlled by the BIOS controller?

[Edited on 12.24.2012 3:39 PM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 3:39 PM PDT

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Yeah, it should work.

By the way, the third fan has to have a 4-pin cable to connect to the motherboard; with fans connected to the motherboard, the first three pins power the fan and the fourth allows adjustments to be made to it. You can plug a three pin cable into a four pin connecter, but you wont be able to control it.

  • 12.24.2012 3:59 PM PDT