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Posted by: CrazzySnipe55

Posted by: Onomatopoeia

Posted by: odmichael

Posted by: Sgt Drifter
Is it me, or did anyone else kinda get the feeling from that article that Bungie gave up its independence again..

The contract also gives Bungie the freedom to put five percent of its staff to work on a prototype for a new game referred to as "Marathon," with the team size allowed to grow after certain operating income. There are also rules governing how much of the company's staff can work on Bungie.Net, Halo Reach DLC and other projects.

They may have rules to abide to via contract. But they are not owned by Activision.


What like 'Ban all anti Activision posts in The Flood'?
The day Bungie agrees to a provision like that is the day I eat my hat.


I hope you like Hats deep fried.

  • 05.21.2012 5:14 PM PDT

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"So much of what we do is ephemeral and quickly forgotten, even by ourselves, so it's gratifying to have something you have done linger in people's memories." John Williams

Posted by: xReconAssassinX
Two year development cycles? You gotta be joking me...

I was a bit heart-struck by that. The least you would think it was like Starcraft II. Where you have a game release, and the next major content would "add on" to the previous installment.

Even things like World of Warcraft. Who knows. They are separate titles, but they could work that way.

  • 05.21.2012 5:14 PM PDT
Subject: LA Times Article aboug Bungie 'Next Game'...

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  • 05.21.2012 5:15 PM PDT
Subject: Bungie/Activisions Next Game Revealed: LA Times Article

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Posted by: odmichael

Posted by: xReconAssassinX
Two year development cycles? You gotta be joking me...
Triple A games are made in two-year development cycles all the time. Not really surprising actually. This is why Bungie has had to grow so much post Halo.

That's my point. Bungie's always taken their own route and succeeded.

I've always respected Bungie for taking the time to focus on a project for so long. Do you know the hype everybody got when Skyrim got announced? There was a five year period of silence between Oblivion and Skyrim, which caused immense levels of anticipation.

I've always been extremely excited for Bungie's titles, mainly because my anticipation over the past three years combined with epic cliffhangers. It's also out of moral respect for their time and dedication put into each game. It always felt like it was less about the green, and more about developing a kick-ass game! A reason why, despite Bethesda games being so buggy, they are one of my favorite developers.

  • 05.21.2012 5:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sgt Drifter

Posted by: odmichael

Posted by: Sgt Drifter
Is it me, or did anyone else kinda get the feeling from that article that Bungie gave up its independence again..

The contract also gives Bungie the freedom to put five percent of its staff to work on a prototype for a new game referred to as "Marathon," with the team size allowed to grow after certain operating income. There are also rules governing how much of the company's staff can work on Bungie.Net, Halo Reach DLC and other projects.

They may have rules to abide to via contract. But they are not owned by Activision.


Right, I get that. It just seems like they are abiding by a lot of restrictions limiting what they can do outside of the Activision project -which is were I have issues concerning their 'independence' for the duration of the contract.
Let's look at what they're limiting:

The website (which I'm sure already had no more than 5% of the staff working on it), the marathon game (which, ideally, would be something they release down the line and, to be honest, even 5% of their staff working on something for a long time can make a pretty good product), and Reach DLC (which is no longer relevant).

I don't see a lot of rights being given away there.

  • 05.21.2012 5:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: Onomatopoeia
What like 'Ban all anti Activision posts in The Flood'?


Of course not. Activision's arrangement is purely as a publisher. The idea behind the team requirements in the contract is essentially a promise being made by Bungie to dedicate all of their effort to making sure that Activision's investment pays off.

  • 05.21.2012 5:16 PM PDT
Subject: LA Times Article aboug Bungie 'Next Game'...

I cap fools.

Fall 2013?! Noooooooo!!!
Oh well. At least we're finally getting some info. The hype is palpable...

  • 05.21.2012 5:17 PM PDT

Posted by: Commander GX
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I think right about now would be a perfect time for a....

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DESTINY FORUM!


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  • 05.21.2012 5:17 PM PDT

Posted by: Ghost
Fall 2013?! Noooooooo!!!
What? Were you expecting the game to come out before then?

  • 05.21.2012 5:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: M94 Mushroom Man

Posted by: HOOBLA 911
I think right about now would be a perfect time for a....

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...wait for it...

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DESTINY FORUM!


Made a group for the time being.
There already is a destiny forum?

  • 05.21.2012 5:19 PM PDT

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Astronomy Picture of the Day!

I don't want to get too hyped or worked up about this, but it's good to hear at least a little bit of news on Bungie's next product. Thanks for the compiled list Talon!

*Continues waiting*

  • 05.21.2012 5:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: CrazzySnipe55

Posted by: M94 Mushroom Man

Posted by: HOOBLA 911
I think right about now would be a perfect time for a....

...

...wait for it...

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DESTINY FORUM!


Made a group for the time being.
There already is a destiny forum?
You know what I mean. Like on Bungie.net.

  • 05.21.2012 5:20 PM PDT

Posted by: Commander GX
Bungie.Match.com: Our Johnson knows what the ladies like.


Posted by: CrazzySnipe55

Posted by: M94 Mushroom Man

Posted by: HOOBLA 911
I think right about now would be a perfect time for a....

...

...wait for it...

...

DESTINY FORUM!


Made a group for the time being.
There already is a destiny forum?

Really? I've never seen that before..

  • 05.21.2012 5:20 PM PDT

*Watches inbox fill up with spontaneously created Destiny themed Groups*

  • 05.21.2012 5:21 PM PDT

Hardcore Entertainment

sooo read everything.. Really Bungie? for this you went to activision? ..sorry you're doomed.

really I'm looking forward to your games, but the retrictions and rules by activions are really hard and the leak will affect reviewer sites who now know which score you have to get to get more money..

This won't end well

  • 05.21.2012 5:22 PM PDT
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I am a Floodian

It sounded good and then I saw the phrases "subscriptions" and "micro-transactions."

  • 05.21.2012 5:23 PM PDT
Subject: Bungie/Activisions Next Game Revealed: LA Times Article

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Urk and Halcylon be trolling.


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  • 05.21.2012 5:23 PM PDT
Subject: LA Times Article aboug Bungie 'Next Game'...
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Posted by: Hylebos
*Watches inbox fill up with spontaneously created Destiny themed Groups*


*Watches for Destiny group themes, instead.

get on it people, we have like, 3 sort of pictures already!

  • 05.21.2012 5:23 PM PDT

Posted by: DeDoubleyou
really I'm looking forward to your games, but the retrictions and rules by activions are really hard
They wouldn't have agreed to the deal if they weren't confident in their abillity to succeed.

  • 05.21.2012 5:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: DeDoubleyou
sooo read everything.. Really Bungie? for this you went to activision? ..sorry you're doomed.

really I'm looking forward to your games, but the retrictions and rules by activions are really hard and the leak will affect reviewer sites who now know which score you have to get to get more money..

This won't end well
They seemed pretty happy about the contract with Activision though... I'm sure Microsoft's contract was just as restricting, if not more.

  • 05.21.2012 5:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: spawn031
Urk be trolling.
lol

  • 05.21.2012 5:25 PM PDT

Posted by: just another fan
Posted by: Hylebos
*Watches inbox fill up with spontaneously created Destiny themed Groups*


*Watches for Destiny group themes, instead.

get on it people, we have like, 3 sort of pictures already!
Supply me with some concept art and I'll get to work with Paint.

  • 05.21.2012 5:25 PM PDT
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Wow, that's a ton of information.

Maybe I'm behind on some news, but that basically gives us release dates for the XBOX 720 and PS4, does it not?

I'm pretty happy about all this! The Marathon piece was a surprise, too. For what it's worth, I think that Bungie probably isn't too happy. I'm sure this news will still get its proper moment, though, and give fans a lot of nice surprise.

Posted by: A Deaf Boy
Posted by: talon2000
-Four games which are targeting for a 2013, 2015, 2017 and 2019 release.
-Four expansion packs which are targeting for a 2014, 2016, 2018 and 2020 release.
-There will be other DLC, subscriptions, microtransactions, and value added services.


Four games. Ok
Four expansion packs. Um...what?
Subscriptions? Unless it's something like Bungie Pro, then ew. Ew. EWWWW.
Microtransactions? EEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.
Value added services? More ways to get money? EW EW EW EW EW EWWWWW.

I really hate Activision. They, along with EA, need to be purged from this world.

Bungie has already offered DLC and value-added subscription services in past games. The days of the Halo 2 map price plans are long gone. This is the way the industry works now, and we have no reason to believe that this is a malicious or unethical plan, especially if (like you said) the services are fairly unobtrusive like Bungie Pro was.

Posted by: A Deaf Boy
Posted by: Sgt Drifter
Is it me, or did anyone else kinda get the feeling from that article that Bungie gave up its independence again..

The contract also gives Bungie the freedom to put five percent of its staff to work on a prototype for a new game referred to as "Marathon," with the team size allowed to grow after certain operating income. There are also rules governing how much of the company's staff can work on Bungie.Net, Halo Reach DLC and other projects.


You know what this sounds like? Bioware and ME3. We all know how that turned out. I agree with you. That statement sounds like Bungie will just be told what to do and will deliver the typical half-ass game because of what Activision dictates.

It seems pretty standard to me. The publisher has a deal with Bungie for the Destiny games, and as such, they want to ensure that Bungie is working diligently on them with the right people. They aren't controlling Bungie. Bungie agreed to this and I'm sure there wasn't a lot of disputing with that particular part of the agreement. I know it's easy to jump on the "I hate Activision" bandwagon, but in reality you don't have to rail on them just because they're making a standard business decision.

  • 05.21.2012 5:25 PM PDT

I don't really like reading leaked or unofficial news so I didn't read the articles, I'm just going to give my two cents based on the OP and other post in this Thread.

I'm sure Bungie doesn't enjoy bits of info coming out before they are ready to release it, but we already knew they were working on a whole new universe, multiple games and expansions where pretty much expected. Assuming its real info I am surprised they will do a game every other year, but Bungie is a huge company now, it's not like they lack man power or experience to get it done.

  • 05.21.2012 5:27 PM PDT

Posted by: I ZEROC00L I
Assuming its real info
It's definitely real.

  • 05.21.2012 5:28 PM PDT