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Posted by: Darkness TB
Halo 3: ODST is the closest game to CE, and Reach is closer to CE than 2/3 and they hate them.ODST didn't have mp.
Reach's campaign and mp is nothing like CE. Plasma pistol, Elite enemies, etc., all that stuff is just a small start and it's not even on par thanks to false difficulty.
H3 was more closer to CE. It had a megabattle, brought back checkpoint fountains (go to a spot, get a checkpoint. Come back later, get another checkpoint), had more alert AI (if I'm sneaking up to Brutes and I melee an enemy through/in front of them, they'll notice me. In Reach, if I land in front of a Jackal or an Elite, it takes them a while to notice me. Sometimes they don't), no 1 hit kill melees (Elites in CE didn't do that unless they had swords. Elites in H2 did and also in Reach if your shield was damaged), Hunter killing checkpoints (kill some Hunter pairs and you get a checkpoint), The Ark (way better than Nightfall and resembles T&R + AotCR + Silent Cartographer. You can even see the resemblance in architecture in the rooms leading to the cartographer), The Covenant (if I were to go into detail, it would be too long to read).
What ruined H3 was the speeded up animations for enemies (Grunts panic=I have to get lucky to headshot them with BR), the slow Chief, the Chieftains (they are pathetic), severely nerfed Jackal snipers (it's bad enough to take away their attentiveness and make them easier to see but making them lose their accuracy? ODST went even further and took away their damage, though that might have been a good thing), the Flood (when you see your pal Arby meleeing them all to death with a Carbine and their small numbers, you know that Flood are not a threat. Yet H3 did restore Flood buddies), the weapon sandbox (pistol can't be used to fend off multiple Brutes), the overall false difficulty and bs (S117 missile Pelican), and various changes that make Reach look better (or at least pleasant).
In other words, mostly poor campaign balancing.
Just for the note, I began with Halo PC, enjoy CE and H2, sometimes H3, have great regard for ODST, and I see that Reach has potential.
Posted by: Darkness TB
Coincedence? No.True. There's less appreciation for CE and ODST from players who love CoD-esque action and scripting. I'm still disappointed that ODST had to be based off of H3 and didn't extend it's improvements to remove the shackles of excessive scripting.
[Edited on 05.22.2012 1:42 PM PDT]