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Subject: What if captain Keyes is Gravemind
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im just speculating i cant come up with any evidence but its just a thought ?
maybe someone can come up with any evidence


p.s i have no idea wat the heck is the fake script , i just thought it would be something bungie would do.

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  • 06.07.2006 10:20 AM PDT
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well how did gravemind get off of the first halo?
The one we blew up.

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  • 06.07.2006 10:21 AM PDT
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.........no thanks.
I don't see how a 5 foot-ish guy would grow to like 100 feet high and spawn large
tentacle things.
Plus Captain Keyes knows Cortana, gravemind seemed as he wanted to find out more stuff from cortana.
Not captain keyes.

  • 06.07.2006 10:22 AM PDT
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yes, how would he get off halo? last time I checked, he was stuck to a large pillar with flood-tape... I also think he died... and also why would he do that???

  • 06.07.2006 10:23 AM PDT
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That would be a cool little twist, but it isnt keyes, no way to prove that, plus its a differnent halo

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  • 06.07.2006 10:23 AM PDT
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I don't think Captain Keyes is Gravemind in the sense that Keyes has control over the creature. I do think that what we saw Keyes turning into in H1 was the Gravemind. Could be wrong though. Wasn't this part of the fake "leaked" script?

  • 06.07.2006 10:24 AM PDT
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now guys relly though why didnt captain keyes just become another pathetic combat flood though

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  • 06.07.2006 10:24 AM PDT
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no, he means the big blob that killed keyes could be gravemind. That is possible.

  • 06.07.2006 10:25 AM PDT

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Posted by: Maverick20
That would be a cool little twist, but it isnt keyes, no way to prove that, plus its a differnent halo

How did Gravemind get from Delta Halo onto High Charity? Teleportation. But Gravemind is most likely a Forerunner-turned-Flood thing like what happened to Keyes..only it haappened a long time ago and he grew more massand power.

I think that All the Flood on the seperate Halos try to make their own Gravemind; and he is the reverse of the Monitors.

Also, notice all the Halo-Bible references...he could be Lucifer (the devil) and the Flood stand for both what overcame Earth and was why the Ark was built..and the Flood is an extremely (possibly eternal?) life of suffering..(well until master chief blows off your head with a 12-gauge)

  • 06.07.2006 10:27 AM PDT
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Captain was becoming a Gravemind, but I don't think he is the Gravemind we meet in Halo 2. The flood form that he turned into was probably destroyed when the covenant were killing the flood on the truth and reconciliation

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  • 06.07.2006 10:28 AM PDT
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now guys relly though why didnt captain keyes just become another pathetic combat flood though

Hmm... good point.


Because he knew too much. He is dead. do you think you could survive being punched compleatly through the head and then survive a fusion ditonation? No. He became a Brain form inorder to extract the information needed by the flood... where earth was.

  • 06.07.2006 10:30 AM PDT
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well i mean if they can make jonhson survive an attack from the flood how can they not pull off keyes being the gravemind..i could be wrong

  • 06.07.2006 10:33 AM PDT
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Because Keyes had already begun to develop into a flood form. Johnson has a specific genetic disorder that the Flood register as unsuitable and passed over him. It's in First Strike.

  • 06.07.2006 10:34 AM PDT

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Posted by: MikeDingus
now guys relly though why didnt captain keyes just become another pathetic combat flood though

Hmm... good point.


Because he knew too much. He is dead. do you think you could survive being punched compleatly through the head and then survive a fusion ditonation? No. He became a Brain form inorder to extract the information needed by the flood... where earth was.

Correction: Do you think he could have survived an armored gauntlet through the cranium, The Truth and Reconcilliation exploding while he was on it, The Wreckage landing on Halo, then the Fusion generators exploding, Followed by Halo becoming unstable..exploding..and vacuum invading every inch of it?

I think not. Unless he teleported like Gravemind can (though the main mind in the Keyes creature was dead..so most likely not possible..

  • 06.07.2006 10:36 AM PDT
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Easy, Johnson had a disease that mesed with his DNA so the flood couldnt take him over. I think it would impossable to survive what Keyes went through.

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now guys relly though why didnt captain keyes just become another pathetic combat flood though

Hmm... good point.


Because he knew too much. He is dead. do you think you could survive being punched compleatly through the head and then survive a fusion ditonation? No. He became a Brain form inorder to extract the information needed by the flood... where earth was.



good point


But at the same time i dont remember the capt being punched in the head. Now considering that fact taht somehow gravemind went from delta halo to the high charity and not sure how
it is possible that some how that gravemind has controll of teleportation considering that cortana grabed it so easily even though she teleported mc upside down but she still did it

Now that i have said that Gravemind has been alive a long time he says so hisself i belive so the thing has had plenty of time to gather information.

Now if keyes is gravemind that would cancel that out. Gravemind wouldnt be alive that long.

So either gravemind is just another step in the evoulution of the flood allowing there to be multiple graveminds.

Also if the flodd reach earth this is gonna be one hell of a battle so much life on earth so much flood countless in fact im thinking about 5 diffrent levels like the library.

Opps now i remeber lol. but if keyes was already part of the flood then that would not matter because the flood have regenartive abilities

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  • 06.07.2006 10:39 AM PDT
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that big blob was a differnt flood form, not gravemind. keyes is dead, he cant comeback.

  • 06.07.2006 10:41 AM PDT
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never said he could but what if the flood aquired keyes like traits like i dont know aquired his memories and was able to replicate them but still being another lifeform in a completly different since of human

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  • 06.07.2006 10:42 AM PDT
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Posted by: MikeDingus

But at the same time i dont remember the capt being punched in the head.


He was, it was in a Halo 1 cut scene.

  • 06.07.2006 10:43 AM PDT

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im just speculating i cant come up with any evidence but its just a thought ?
maybe someone can come up with any evidence


You have evidence, you just dont want to get banned for saying where you heard this from...

haha!

Well, yea, from what i have.... Read? he could well be... But i very much doubt it.

  • 06.07.2006 10:44 AM PDT
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yeah i remebered and edited my post sorry bout that havent played halo one in a couple of years

  • 06.07.2006 10:44 AM PDT
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brb in a little ppl

  • 06.07.2006 10:46 AM PDT
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but bungie has always been known for having strange twists in their story's so i thougth hey wat the hell? heres an even crazier(spelling?)idea wat if the flood in jonhson's dna awakens somehow and he turns evil and kills everyone muhahhahahahh..

im problaby wrong.

  • 06.07.2006 10:50 AM PDT