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  • 06.10.2006 12:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: NO SOUP 4 u
im just speculating i cant come up with any evidence but its just a thought ?
maybe someone can come up with any evidence


p.s i have no idea wat the heck is the fake script , i just thought it would be something bungie would do.
i actualy like that idea i never thought of that but i dont know how it would happen and also it seems like gravemind was there sinse the begining of the flood

  • 06.10.2006 12:52 PM PDT
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Gravemind is sensitive, don't hurt his feelings.

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I have a small idea that Keyes could in fact be Gravemind !

You know those little flood things that are from Halo 1 and Halo 2 and the Halo novel books ? Well......you know that they " re - live " the dead flood ...maybe that happened to keyes and not just one of those little floods things came to bring him life but....thousands of them and he became a god or a holy " thing " to the flood and is respected as their leader !

Basically in similar form :

The little flood things and the flood its self may thing Keyes was Like a Pope or god to them so they brought him back to life with more power and a lot bigger.....

This is just an idea ...im not saying its stupid and I'm not saying its good ,but, i think that it could be it in my 12 year old mind ! Do you think that could happen ?????????????

  • 06.10.2006 1:28 PM PDT
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  • 06.10.2006 1:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: Heretic Leader 7
Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: Lord of the Halo
You guys obviously don't know anything about the flood. When the infection forms get into your body, they become your brain.[/correct]
Correct, but this was a collective of multiple bodies of importance to become a pilot of the Truth and Reconcilliation (most likely)
They don't need Keyes' brain anymore, and that's why it could be possible for keyese to survive MC punching his brains in.
He couldn't survive what's coming up.
[quote] And about him not surviving halo. If I'm not mistaken, High Charity is just outside of the ruins of Instalation 04 in a cut scene in Halo2.

Yes but it was NOT there during Halo 1, it uses Slipspace.
[quote] Who's to say Pillar of Autum destroyed everything

The Truth and Reconcilliation (where the Keyes form was) was taken out by a Helljumper by the Name of McKay, after Flood controlled Jenkins suggest it.

The ship then went back into Halo's atmosphere and was destroyed before Halo even blew up. Furhthermore he could not survive the rin exploding.
[quote] and besides, there were flood in that heretic base which means they did get off inst. 04 alive. HA take that haters

They were actually in the Lab portion. The Heretic Base is an Ancient Forerunner facility like Halo..only with the purpose of mining gas and studying the Flood.


You actually managed to trick yourself, yes High Charity was in orbit of AlphaHalo's relatively intact wreckage. What were the Covenant trying to do nearing the end of Halo: Get all cruisers the hell outta there to contain the flood. They couldn't blow it up cause if our little Autumn could rip the Sacred ring apart then think of what a Covie cruiser would do? The Covenant would never let the High charity go there unless it was safe so no, you are wrong.

Actually, the Covenant ships left Halo's general zone and went into slipspace when they found out what Chief was going to do.

High Charity wasn't near there until after Halo's destrcution and after the Flag ship was stolen in First strike, and they left.

There are Labs on the facility over Threshhold (isn't one of the "chapter" things called "The Labs" or something?

Either way, we can tell by the instruments that there was a place to hold the flood, and a place to contain them while experimenting.

  • 06.10.2006 1:40 PM PDT
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Aren't the flood one entity? Like bees? Maybe Keyes' intelligence is stuck in the flood collective mind.

  • 06.10.2006 1:42 PM PDT
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Captain Keyes's face got smashed in by the chief, so wouldn't he be dead. I suppose its vaguely possible but i don't think he is gravemind.

  • 06.10.2006 1:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: Heretic Leader 7
Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: Lord of the Halo
You guys obviously don't know anything about the flood. When the infection forms get into your body, they become your brain.[/correct]
Correct, but this was a collective of multiple bodies of importance to become a pilot of the Truth and Reconcilliation (most likely)
They don't need Keyes' brain anymore, and that's why it could be possible for keyese to survive MC punching his brains in.
He couldn't survive what's coming up.
[quote] And about him not surviving halo. If I'm not mistaken, High Charity is just outside of the ruins of Instalation 04 in a cut scene in Halo2.

Yes but it was NOT there during Halo 1, it uses Slipspace.
[quote] Who's to say Pillar of Autum destroyed everything

The Truth and Reconcilliation (where the Keyes form was) was taken out by a Helljumper by the Name of McKay, after Flood controlled Jenkins suggest it.

The ship then went back into Halo's atmosphere and was destroyed before Halo even blew up. Furhthermore he could not survive the rin exploding.
[quote] and besides, there were flood in that heretic base which means they did get off inst. 04 alive. HA take that haters

They were actually in the Lab portion. The Heretic Base is an Ancient Forerunner facility like Halo..only with the purpose of mining gas and studying the Flood.


You actually managed to trick yourself, yes High Charity was in orbit of AlphaHalo's relatively intact wreckage. What were the Covenant trying to do nearing the end of Halo: Get all cruisers the hell outta there to contain the flood. They couldn't blow it up cause if our little Autumn could rip the Sacred ring apart then think of what a Covie cruiser would do? The Covenant would never let the High charity go there unless it was safe so no, you are wrong.

Actually, the Covenant ships left Halo's general zone and went into slipspace when they found out what Chief was going to do.

High Charity wasn't near there until after Halo's destrcution and after the Flag ship was stolen in First strike, and they left.

There are Labs on the facility over Threshhold (isn't one of the "chapter" things called "The Labs" or something?

Either way, we can tell by the instruments that there was a place to hold the flood, and a place to contain them while experimenting.


That's what I meant, High Charity came after it was safe. They wouldn't do this if there were Flood controlled ships about.

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  • 06.10.2006 3:46 PM PDT
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Anyways if he was the Gravemind he wouldn't like do anything you would just kill him!

  • 06.10.2006 3:54 PM PDT

okay, that seems cool, but it's a 99.99999999999999999999999999999.....% chance that's impossible. Unless that one decimal means the flood can communicate through mind. Maybe Keyes turned into one and spread his knowledge to other flood and Delta Gravemind contained the knowledge Keys said. there by making keyes in the other gravemind by thought/ knowledge/ mind. Just making something up, you neva evVa(ever) knizzoe(know)

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  • 06.10.2006 3:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: Heretic Leader 7
Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: Heretic Leader 7
Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: Lord of the Halo
You guys obviously don't know anything about the flood. When the infection forms get into your body, they become your brain.[/correct]
Correct, but this was a collective of multiple bodies of importance to become a pilot of the Truth and Reconcilliation (most likely)
They don't need Keyes' brain anymore, and that's why it could be possible for keyese to survive MC punching his brains in.
He couldn't survive what's coming up.
[quote] And about him not surviving halo. If I'm not mistaken, High Charity is just outside of the ruins of Instalation 04 in a cut scene in Halo2.

Yes but it was NOT there during Halo 1, it uses Slipspace.
[quote] Who's to say Pillar of Autum destroyed everything

The Truth and Reconcilliation (where the Keyes form was) was taken out by a Helljumper by the Name of McKay, after Flood controlled Jenkins suggest it.

The ship then went back into Halo's atmosphere and was destroyed before Halo even blew up. Furhthermore he could not survive the rin exploding.
[quote] and besides, there were flood in that heretic base which means they did get off inst. 04 alive. HA take that haters

They were actually in the Lab portion. The Heretic Base is an Ancient Forerunner facility like Halo..only with the purpose of mining gas and studying the Flood.


You actually managed to trick yourself, yes High Charity was in orbit of AlphaHalo's relatively intact wreckage. What were the Covenant trying to do nearing the end of Halo: Get all cruisers the hell outta there to contain the flood. They couldn't blow it up cause if our little Autumn could rip the Sacred ring apart then think of what a Covie cruiser would do? The Covenant would never let the High charity go there unless it was safe so no, you are wrong.

Actually, the Covenant ships left Halo's general zone and went into slipspace when they found out what Chief was going to do.

High Charity wasn't near there until after Halo's destrcution and after the Flag ship was stolen in First strike, and they left.

There are Labs on the facility over Threshhold (isn't one of the "chapter" things called "The Labs" or something?

Either way, we can tell by the instruments that there was a place to hold the flood, and a place to contain them while experimenting.


That's what I meant, High Charity came after it was safe. They wouldn't do this if there were Flood controlled ships about.

That's what I said too..howcome you commented on what I said?

  • 06.10.2006 4:06 PM PDT
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Yeah, WRONG. Cpt. Keyes is most certainly dead, MC ramed his fist through his face to get his micro chip thingy. And if he has still alive, he would have most certainly been incinerated when the Halo exploded, or at least jetosined into space.

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We all know that Gravemind is the "mind of the Flood", so it's likely that all the control forms (they are the ones with useful information) will relay the info to Gravemind via telekinesis(sp?), or some other powerful, silent way of communicating..

That way Keyes can definately be part of Gravemind, but not physically, gravemind would just posess his memories along with countless others that he has aquired over the years...

  • 06.10.2006 6:47 PM PDT