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Subject: 3:03 Creatures ARE in fact Brutes.

"Caputofish -- Are You Man Enough?"

Even so, they would not dumb down the size of a brute to grunt size.

and if my brain is a peanut, yours must not even be visible!

  • 06.07.2006 5:44 PM PDT

What I find odd is how you guys are forgetting one key issue... where in the name of god are they? We don't have a clue where. If these are grunts (they aren't, you can tell by the shape and appearance of their heads), then they could be on the homeworld they must come from that has a Methane-based atmosphere.
But... it looks to be brutes. Brutes, or some new species. I'm not surprised that it's brutes, because now the brutes need to fill the shoes of the elites, and that includes the Rangers. So these must be brutes trying to be rangers. Obviously, since they don't have oxygen masks, they aren't very bright... we'll see if brutes explode in space just like humans do, if this is so.

  • 06.07.2006 5:44 PM PDT

Posted by: The Slayer
Posted by: Caputofish08
Posted by: The Slayer
Example they channged hunter size didnt they!?!?!?


No they did not.

FYI they did read the "Art of Halo" book in the character design/Hunter section and youll see for your self....................
See I actually have evidence your just using that peanut you call a brain!!

DID you not read!?!?!
Oh and I said it looked like when they hold a plasma pistols not that they are PP..
where the hell is my cookie!
And yes if you zoom in you can see their faces better!!!

  • 06.07.2006 5:45 PM PDT

"Caputofish -- Are You Man Enough?"

Posted by: The Slayer
Posted by: The Slayer
Posted by: Caputofish08
Posted by: The Slayer
Example they channged hunter size didnt they!?!?!?


No they did not.

FYI they did read the "Art of Halo" book in the character design/Hunter section and youll see for your self....................
See I actually have evidence your just using that peanut you call a brain!!

DID you not read!?!?!
Oh and I said it looked like when they hold a plasma pistols not that they are PP..
where the hell is my cookie!
And yes if you zoom in you can see their faces better!!!


Even so, they would not dumb down the size of a brute to grunt size.
Your cookie got burnt.
You cannot zoom in far enough, the pic becomes distorted.
THEY ARE BRUTES OR SOMETHING ELSE, NOT GRUNTS.

  • 06.07.2006 5:48 PM PDT

On the other hand, we're all composed of tiny organisms too. We have shape. And the fact that Hunters have muscle - and lots of it - indicates they should have a very strong shape, that couldn't be 'molded' into a smaller, sleeker state. Besides, if it was a hunter it'd have an orange face that had no features, like the hunters we know and love/hate...

  • 06.07.2006 5:49 PM PDT

Oh and if you dont remember I said I also agree with the fact that they are "BRUTES" (in the front). And possibly Grunts in the back and why do you insist on arguing about something that no one here has an answer to,....,how childish!

  • 06.07.2006 5:49 PM PDT

Posted by: Halo 2 Rookie
On the other hand, we're all composed of tiny organisms too. We have shape. And the fact that Hunters have muscle - and lots of it - indicates they should have a very strong shape, that couldn't be 'molded' into a smaller, sleeker state. Besides, if it was a hunter it'd have an orange face that had no features, like the hunters we know and love/hate...

I didnt say they were hunters but that in halo 2 they raised the size!!!

  • 06.07.2006 5:51 PM PDT

"Caputofish -- Are You Man Enough?"

Posted by: The Slayer
Oh and if you dont remember I said I also agree with the fact that they are "BRUTES" (in the front). And possibly Grunts in the back and why do you insist on arguing about something that no one here has an answer to,....,how childish!


You just contradicted yourself. That my friend is arguing too.
Also they are not possibly grunts, you must be high.
Insufficient Information on your part.
They CANNOT be grunts.

  • 06.07.2006 5:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: Caputofish08
For all of those who believe that they are grunts, elites or even jackals(wtf?).... research first.

YOU CAN NOT TELL IF THEY ARE SHORT!
There is nothing to proportionally size them to.
It is like taking a pic of the statue of liberty, in the pic it is 6 in. but in real life it is HUGE.
Do not base your thinking on something as inaccurate as size, because there is nothing to compare them to. Ground = Big Brutes = Small
In proportion to the ground, they are small, but there is nothing else "tangible" to compare it to.
They are Brutes;
1) They are all brown (grunts are not brown), just with new armour and stuff
2) Bungie said there was going to be a revised "Brute" Shot. We do not know what kind, could even be those one handed ones.
3) The new weapons have a blade on it, as like the old Brute Shot.
4) Grunts don't use "brute" shots, brutes use "brute" shots.
5) Grunts cannot live w/o frontal masks on Earth, They breath pure methane. And these BRUTES have no frontal masks.
6) In the game, brutes sloutch over appearing smaller than they really are. Just like in Star Wars Episode III where general greivous slouches, once he stands up he is HUGE! SAME WITH A BRUTE!
7) Grunts have cones on their elbows, these BRUTES do not.
8) The proportions of their arms and legs are to big/long and fat to be grunts.
9) "Shadow cant show height. Only if I know time of day. Micheal Jordan could have a 3 foot shadow at 1o'clock" -- from Mr. Cool
10) THEY ARE BRUTES!

So please, stop with all of the multi-postings on inadequate and incomplete information that you think the creatures are grunts. Your logic is flawed.


Some of your numbers are almost intelligent, others... well I don't like to flame. Let me match each one of your numbers with a remark, and then give my opinion. (My argument is that the front creature is an elite, others... don't really know)

1) As we saw in Halo 2, the natural skin color of the elites is also brown. Thus it means they may not be wearing a full suit of armor, and their skin is exposed. If you look closely, you can see an eye similar to that of an elite (look when the time is 3:02) and possibly a mandible.
2) I doubt a revised brute shot would mean making it purple, one handed, and taking of the blade.
3) There isn't a blade, it's the shape of the gun
4) I'm not saying it's a grunt
5) I'm saying its an elite
6) ^
7) ^
8) ^
9) ^
10) the front one is an elite

Well, I guess that summed up my views, but the creatures behind the front one look slightly different, maybe grunts, maybe something else, whatever.

And also, all that argument about the design screen, there's more then one dude (who's arguing for the brutes) along with the fact we didn't see everying on that screen. (sorry, i'm too lazy to quote again) :P

  • 06.07.2006 5:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: The Slayer
Posted by: Halo 2 Rookie
On the other hand, we're all composed of tiny organisms too. We have shape. And the fact that Hunters have muscle - and lots of it - indicates they should have a very strong shape, that couldn't be 'molded' into a smaller, sleeker state. Besides, if it was a hunter it'd have an orange face that had no features, like the hunters we know and love/hate...

I didnt say they were hunters but that in halo 2 they raised the size!!!


And again, Brutes would not be dumbed down to be the same height as grunts, that would be inconclusive and completly pointless, not to mention dumb.

  • 06.07.2006 5:53 PM PDT

AND AGAIN YOU HAVE NO -blam!- PROOF SHUT THE HELL UP YOU ARE GIVING BOGUS FACTS THAT ARE COMING FROM YOUR HEAD ARGUE WHEN YOU HAVE PROOF (when halo 3 comes out) OTHER WIZE WHAT YOUR DOING IS POINTLESS YOU HAVE NOTHING!

  • 06.07.2006 5:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: eliteultra
Posted by: Caputofish08
For all of those who believe that they are grunts, elites or even jackals(wtf?).... research first.

YOU CAN NOT TELL IF THEY ARE SHORT!
There is nothing to proportionally size them to.
It is like taking a pic of the statue of liberty, in the pic it is 6 in. but in real life it is HUGE.
Do not base your thinking on something as inaccurate as size, because there is nothing to compare them to. Ground = Big Brutes = Small
In proportion to the ground, they are small, but there is nothing else "tangible" to compare it to.
They are Brutes;
1) They are all brown (grunts are not brown), just with new armour and stuff
2) Bungie said there was going to be a revised "Brute" Shot. We do not know what kind, could even be those one handed ones.
3) The new weapons have a blade on it, as like the old Brute Shot.
4) Grunts don't use "brute" shots, brutes use "brute" shots.
5) Grunts cannot live w/o frontal masks on Earth, They breath pure methane. And these BRUTES have no frontal masks.
6) In the game, brutes sloutch over appearing smaller than they really are. Just like in Star Wars Episode III where general greivous slouches, once he stands up he is HUGE! SAME WITH A BRUTE!
7) Grunts have cones on their elbows, these BRUTES do not.
8) The proportions of their arms and legs are to big/long and fat to be grunts.
9) "Shadow cant show height. Only if I know time of day. Micheal Jordan could have a 3 foot shadow at 1o'clock" -- from Mr. Cool
10) THEY ARE BRUTES!

So please, stop with all of the multi-postings on inadequate and incomplete information that you think the creatures are grunts. Your logic is flawed.


Some of your numbers are almost intelligent, others... well I don't like to flame. Let me match each one of your numbers with a remark, and then give my opinion. (My argument is that the front creature is an elite, others... don't really know)

1) As we saw in Halo 2, the natural skin color of the elites is also brown. Thus it means they may not be wearing a full suit of armor, and their skin is exposed. If you look closely, you can see an eye similar to that of an elite (look when the time is 3:02) and possibly a mandible.
2) I doubt a revised brute shot would mean making it purple, one handed, and taking of the blade.
3) There isn't a blade, it's the shape of the gun
4) I'm not saying it's a grunt
5) I'm saying its an elite
6) ^
7) ^
8) ^
9) ^
10) the front one is an elite

Well, I guess that summed up my views, but the creatures behind the front one look slightly different, maybe grunts, maybe something else, whatever.

And also, all that argument about the design screen, there's more then one dude (who's arguing for the brutes) along with the fact we didn't see everying on that screen. (sorry, i'm too lazy to quote again) :P


Good views, im saying it is NOT a grunt. Most likely is a Brute, and could be something else.
Also, that is a blade, and it was not taken off, it is the same blade model as that on the regular brute shot.

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They dont look like brutes. Nor grunt, and neither elite, or any other covenant.

I do believe they are not any of the covenant we know right now.

From what we have seen, they do NOT look at all hairy. The head shape of the so called brute does not look brute at all. This new species look fatter then brutes.

and lastly http://i6.tinypic.com/121wp3q.jpg does not proove ANYTHING

  • 06.07.2006 5:56 PM PDT

"Caputofish -- Are You Man Enough?"

Posted by: The Slayer
AND AGAIN YOU HAVE NO -blam!- PROOF SHUT THE HELL UP YOU ARE GIVING BOGUS FACTS THAT ARE COMING FROM YOUR HEAD ARGUE WHEN YOU HAVE PROOF (when halo 3 comes out) OTHER WIZE WHAT YOUR DOING IS POINTLESS YOU HAVE NOTHING!


1) I never said they were facts.
2) You are the one still arguing
3) Your views are based on inconclusive views
4) Chill out man, have a hot dog!

  • 06.07.2006 5:57 PM PDT

Posted by: Caputofish08
For all of those who believe that they are grunts, elites or even jackals(wtf?).... research first.

YOU CAN NOT TELL IF THEY ARE SHORT!
There is nothing to proportionally size them to.
It is like taking a pic of the statue of liberty, in the pic it is 6 in. but in real life it is HUGE.
Do not base your thinking on something as inaccurate as size, because there is nothing to compare them to. Ground = Big Brutes = Small
In proportion to the ground, they are small, but there is nothing else "tangible" to compare it to.
They are Brutes;
(Jibberish)
So please, stop with all of the multi-postings on inadequate and incomplete information that you think the creatures are grunts. Your logic is flawed.


You saying there brutes is no better then people saying their grunts. So really your going against everything i quoted. Only bungie is going to tell me what they are, if theyre brutes congradulations. If not, stfu. By you saying everyone else is wrong, with "proof", is bs. Your proof is confirmed by your logic, but nothing has been given but a picture. A picture of a game thats not complete, so maybe the char model is incomplete.

  • 06.07.2006 5:59 PM PDT

"Caputofish -- Are You Man Enough?"

They are not hairy because it is still in production, it is a render.
The face in that url link of the creature closely resembles that of a brute
Im not sure exactly what it is (prolly a brute)
just that it is not a grrunt.

  • 06.07.2006 5:59 PM PDT

Posted by: Caputofish08
Posted by: The Slayer
Oh and if you dont remember I said I also agree with the fact that they are "BRUTES" (in the front). And possibly Grunts in the back and why do you insist on arguing about something that no one here has an answer to,....,how childish!


You just contradicted yourself. That my friend is arguing too.
Also they are not possibly grunts, you must be high.
Insufficient Information on your part.
They CANNOT be grunts.

Oh BTW you said they cant be Grunts!

  • 06.07.2006 6:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: llghost27ll
Posted by: Caputofish08
For all of those who believe that they are grunts, elites or even jackals(wtf?).... research first.

YOU CAN NOT TELL IF THEY ARE SHORT!
There is nothing to proportionally size them to.
It is like taking a pic of the statue of liberty, in the pic it is 6 in. but in real life it is HUGE.
Do not base your thinking on something as inaccurate as size, because there is nothing to compare them to. Ground = Big Brutes = Small
In proportion to the ground, they are small, but there is nothing else "tangible" to compare it to.
They are Brutes;
(Jibberish)
So please, stop with all of the multi-postings on inadequate and incomplete information that you think the creatures are grunts. Your logic is flawed.


You saying there brutes is no better then people saying their grunts. So really your going against everything i quoted. Only bungie is going to tell me what they are, if theyre brutes congradulations. If not, stfu. By you saying everyone else is wrong, with "proof", is bs. Your proof is confirmed by your logic, but nothing has been given but a picture. A picture of a game thats not complete, so maybe the char model is incomplete.


I never said my stuff was fact.
It is my logic that, apperently to most people
makes a lot of sense.
I'll edit: It is prolly a brute.
DEFINitely not a grunt, too much
info against that.

  • 06.07.2006 6:01 PM PDT

Posted by: Caputofish08
Posted by: eliteultra
Posted by: Caputofish08
For all of those who believe that they are grunts, elites or even jackals(wtf?).... research first.

YOU CAN NOT TELL IF THEY ARE SHORT!
There is nothing to proportionally size them to.
It is like taking a pic of the statue of liberty, in the pic it is 6 in. but in real life it is HUGE.
Do not base your thinking on something as inaccurate as size, because there is nothing to compare them to. Ground = Big Brutes = Small
In proportion to the ground, they are small, but there is nothing else "tangible" to compare it to.
They are Brutes;
1) They are all brown (grunts are not brown), just with new armour and stuff
2) Bungie said there was going to be a revised "Brute" Shot. We do not know what kind, could even be those one handed ones.
3) The new weapons have a blade on it, as like the old Brute Shot.
4) Grunts don't use "brute" shots, brutes use "brute" shots.
5) Grunts cannot live w/o frontal masks on Earth, They breath pure methane. And these BRUTES have no frontal masks.
6) In the game, brutes sloutch over appearing smaller than they really are. Just like in Star Wars Episode III where general greivous slouches, once he stands up he is HUGE! SAME WITH A BRUTE!
7) Grunts have cones on their elbows, these BRUTES do not.
8) The proportions of their arms and legs are to big/long and fat to be grunts.
9) "Shadow cant show height. Only if I know time of day. Micheal Jordan could have a 3 foot shadow at 1o'clock" -- from Mr. Cool
10) THEY ARE BRUTES!

So please, stop with all of the multi-postings on inadequate and incomplete information that you think the creatures are grunts. Your logic is flawed.


Some of your numbers are almost intelligent, others... well I don't like to flame. Let me match each one of your numbers with a remark, and then give my opinion. (My argument is that the front creature is an elite, others... don't really know)

1) As we saw in Halo 2, the natural skin color of the elites is also brown. Thus it means they may not be wearing a full suit of armor, and their skin is exposed. If you look closely, you can see an eye similar to that of an elite (look when the time is 3:02) and possibly a mandible.
2) I doubt a revised brute shot would mean making it purple, one handed, and taking of the blade.
3) There isn't a blade, it's the shape of the gun
4) I'm not saying it's a grunt
5) I'm saying its an elite
6) ^
7) ^
8) ^
9) ^
10) the front one is an elite

Well, I guess that summed up my views, but the creatures behind the front one look slightly different, maybe grunts, maybe something else, whatever.

And also, all that argument about the design screen, there's more then one dude (who's arguing for the brutes) along with the fact we didn't see everying on that screen. (sorry, i'm too lazy to quote again) :P


Good views, im saying it is NOT a grunt. Most likely is a Brute, and could be something else.
Also, that is a blade, and it was not taken off, it is the same blade model as that on the regular brute shot.

  • 06.07.2006 6:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: The Slayer
Posted by: Caputofish08
Posted by: The Slayer
Oh and if you dont remember I said I also agree with the fact that they are "BRUTES" (in the front). And possibly Grunts in the back and why do you insist on arguing about something that no one here has an answer to,....,how childish!


You just contradicted yourself. That my friend is arguing too.
Also they are not possibly grunts, you must be high.
Insufficient Information on your part.
They CANNOT be grunts.

Oh BTW you said they cant be Grunts!


yeah, they cannot be grunts, sooooo what?

  • 06.07.2006 6:02 PM PDT

"Caputofish -- Are You Man Enough?"

My b.

EDIT; THEY ARE NOT GRUNTS.
MOST DEFINITELY BRUTES
COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE
BUT NOT GRUNTS!

[Edited on 6/7/2006]

  • 06.07.2006 6:03 PM PDT

Halo 3 multiplayer is frustrating.

It is a Grunt!

Look at the forearms!

I'll find a comparison pic.

  • 06.07.2006 6:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: KenKaniff
It is a Grunt!

Look at the forearms!

I'll find a comparison pic.


http://i6.tinypic.com/121wp3q.jpg

Look at that comparisson
NOT A GRUNT

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yes they can.
but no 1 has any proof at all but a pic from the dang trailer which prooves nothing.

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Look at the picture right at 3:02. Look at the top of the monitor. All the creatures are holding the same weapon, all of which are designed with fins angled downwards. They really don't look like blades on a brute shot to me, who agrees?

  • 06.07.2006 6:07 PM PDT