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Subject: Why weren't there any models for Infected yanme'e or unggoy?

Just a bit curious, not sure if I ever missed a post or anything about it. But why can't they be infected by the flood? Also the kig-yar?

  • 06.03.2012 11:38 PM PDT

They can be infected. It just wasn't needed(Or feasable for time/budget reasons) to make models for them as flood forms in the halo games.

In Halo wars, infected jackals and grunts are present and modeled.

  • 06.04.2012 12:10 AM PDT

I imagine their bodies were used more for building than for actually fighting.

  • 06.04.2012 12:36 AM PDT

I know they CAN be infected. I'm just wondering why they didn't show the models in the halo trilogy.

  • 06.04.2012 1:04 AM PDT


Posted by: X Delta Xero X
I imagine their bodies were used more for building than for actually fighting.


I like this answer, a lot. Makes a lot of sense, more than most people on these forums have.

  • 06.04.2012 1:06 AM PDT


Posted by: BaselessVirus
I know they CAN be infected. I'm just wondering why they didn't show the models in the halo trilogy.


I see now in my original post I stated that they can't be infected. Sorry, tired/not thinking straight.

I'm not some guy who only played reach and claims to know all of Halo's lore. Just clearing that.

  • 06.04.2012 1:07 AM PDT

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Also the Flood collects lifeforms and simply uses them in order to build a Gravemind. In other words the Grunts and other smaller species of the Covenant weren't needed for combat forms. And thus were simply converted to organic tissue in a larger Flood form. Or at least that's one way of looking at it.

[Edited on 06.04.2012 1:35 AM PDT]

  • 06.04.2012 1:35 AM PDT

I think in general sense, with Elites and humans, grunts and jackals were more used for purely biomass, or taken straight to carrier forms.

However in some cases (like halo wars), it's just so desperate it uses any and all bodies as combat forms.

04 flood probably just went for the biggest targets they could find for infection first.

  • 06.04.2012 1:40 AM PDT
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1. Those species are too weak for combat forms.
2. Lack of calcium reserves in Grunts, Yanmee, and Jackals.
3. Hunters cannot be infected due to their lack of central nervous system.
4. Time constraints.
5. More efficient use of matter i.e a Gravemind.

  • 06.04.2012 1:40 AM PDT

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Yeah, they lack sufficient calcium to be used.

  • 06.04.2012 8:32 AM PDT

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Apparently they didn't have enough calcium to be transformed into a combat form. They were just used as biomass for the gravemind or part of the carrier forms.

Halo Wars changed that, though. I guess it would show an evolution on the Floods part to be able to use lesser forms in combat roles.

  • 06.04.2012 10:15 AM PDT
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Don't Drones already have a hive-mind. Wouldn't it be confusing if they could be affected by Flood?

Nonetheless, I love watching Drones fight Flood. Bringing them up the elevator on The Covenant. Good times...

  • 06.04.2012 10:19 AM PDT

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There was concept art done for the Flood Grunt. I guess they just decided not to include them and imply they were used to build Graveminds. :-)

  • 06.04.2012 3:22 PM PDT
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Can't be bothered reading anyone else's replies so I might repeat something.:
Not sure about the Drones, I'm assuming they can, but the Grunts and the Jackals definitely get infected. There was even concept art before Halo 1 for Grunt Combat Forms. However, the Flood don't actually use them in battle, preferring combat form Brutes, Elites and Humans instead. The grunts and jackals do eventually become carrier forms.

  • 06.05.2012 4:37 AM PDT

+1 for you good sir.

I think they explined that somewhere, I forget where though.

But when Jackals and Grunts are infected, they aren't used for combat roles. Only the big, meaty guys are, like Elites and Brutes.

  • 06.05.2012 6:11 AM PDT

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They become carrier forms due to the fact that the grunts breathe methane and both forms are better suited to becoming this form rather than combat forms.

  • 06.05.2012 6:12 AM PDT

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I thought it was because the Flood didn't have interest in them, or they simply didn't have enough mass.

  • 06.05.2012 10:22 AM PDT


Posted by: HipiO7
Apparently they didn't have enough calcium to be transformed into a combat form. They were just used as biomass for the gravemind or part of the carrier forms.

Halo Wars changed that, though. I guess it would show an evolution on the Floods part to be able to use lesser forms in combat roles.


No, I think grunts and Jackals always could be used as combat forms.

In Halo Wars however, those flood were feral even more then the 04 ones, and had infected all the normal animal life. So they pretty much took everything they could for combat forms.

  • 06.05.2012 11:02 AM PDT

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Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


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The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Posted by: HipiO7
Apparently they didn't have enough calcium to be transformed into a combat form. They were just used as biomass for the gravemind or part of the carrier forms.

Halo Wars changed that, though. I guess it would show an evolution on the Floods part to be able to use lesser forms in combat roles.


No, I think grunts and Jackals always could be used as combat forms.

In Halo Wars however, those flood were feral even more then the 04 ones, and had infected all the normal animal life. So they pretty much took everything they could for combat forms.


I remember somewhere saying the reason why Grunts and Jackals weren´t used as combat forms... I think it was in the Halo 3 Bestiarium. Not sure, though.

  • 06.08.2012 11:11 AM PDT

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
04 flood probably just went for the biggest targets they could find for infection first.

On 04, the Flood had no Gravemind built yet, so for the whole game all non-combat or Carrier form infected were put towards creating a Gravemind.

In Halo Wars, the Flood already have a Gravemind since it is a Flood planet.

  • 06.08.2012 11:14 AM PDT

Pretty sure it was to do with an insufficient amount of biomass or that the infection forms can't utilize the cell structure of something like Yanme'e wings.
That and the spore cells couldn't survive the cold that the Methane of the grunt tanks produced.

  • 06.08.2012 11:16 AM PDT

You'd probably shoot back if i wasn't T-bagging your dead body.

This from Halo wikia:

"These forms do not appear in the trilogy and are instead introduced in Halo Wars.[notes 1] Rarely seen in actual combat situations, infected Unggoy and Kig-yar are more commonly converted into Carrier Forms or processed for their biomass. These "building blocks" can be used to add to a Gravemind's superstructure or be molded into Flood Pure Forms. "


I also thought that the carrier form legs from CE looked like grunt legs.

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  • 06.08.2012 1:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cheify Weefy 07

I also thought that the carrier form legs from CE looked like grunt legs.
Me too.

  • 06.09.2012 4:37 AM PDT

Its because they don't have sufficient biomass, or something like that. Their appearence in halo wars was noncanon. I have no idea why they were there.

  • 06.11.2012 9:20 AM PDT

I was told that the grunts and drones and some one lacked enough mass to make a proper flood but they can merge together to make a carrier form AKA a fat head

  • 06.11.2012 2:38 PM PDT

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