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Well, I thought I was gonna hate it, but from what I've seen. It's pretty good. I don't like some of the artistic updates.. And if they don't explain how Chief's armor changed so much I will really hate it. BAD 343! I can get behind grunts' pressure suits being upgraded and stuff, I kinda liked the new enviroment and the enemy mechanics were great. I'm wondering is the full game going to butcher the Halo canon or not.

*hopes to get an explanation for MC's new look*

  • 06.04.2012 12:46 PM PDT

Aren't Prometheans supposed be much taller than what we see in the demo?

  • 06.04.2012 12:48 PM PDT

I'm bringin' Spartan back.

Jaw.....still dropped.

  • 06.04.2012 12:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

MFW

My only complaint is that the Forerunners seem a bit squishy. I would expect them to stand up to more than a few BR bullets to the cranium. The skull when it attacks though, absolutely awesome.

  • 06.04.2012 12:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wolverfrog
Aren't Prometheans supposed be much taller than what we see in the demo?


I think those are just machines built by them.

  • 06.04.2012 12:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: Xd00999
MFW

My only complaint is that the Forerunners seem a bit squishy. I would expect them to stand up to more than a few BR bullets to the cranium. The skull when it attacks though, absolutely awesome.
Well, they are emphasizing enemy numbers/stacking enemies on top of each other.

Plus, it seems to be Normal difficulty. Normal has the most accurate health.

Nonetheless, I think it merely means that the weapons have got a power buff. The AR looks like it's going to be the most powerful of the series and the storm rifle is CE plasma rifle incarnate except even more powerful (or that could be headshot bonus).

[Edited on 06.04.2012 1:07 PM PDT]

  • 06.04.2012 12:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: CoolCJ24
I'm really, really hoping the Elites get fed up of being beaten back, get their pride on, and we witness an Elites vs. Promethean Knights skirmish, with the Elites brandishing Energy Swords and really giving the Knights their all.
Sweet Jesus yes!

Sword Elites have been mistreated for so long. If you're interested in gameplay, then continue reading and see their plight...

It's not good when they:

-can't leap
-die by running off the edge (also at the end of TotS)
-waste their time tossing grenades at enemies that won't be killed by them. Combat forms and Brutes are easier for H3 Elites but only because I helped
-are given weak shields and expected to perform well (H2 Zealots)
-have poor prioritization (this has been the case since CE but it's been getting worse ever since)

Even in the H4 demo, the first victim of the new enemies was a sword Elite. :(

I hope H4 has some epic sword Elite moments, gives them a chance to fight back. Epic 2 way battles (without bs like Flood, Sentinels, and Brutes) are what I'm expecting. Kinda like the Gravemind Mausoleum battle but much bigger in scope.

[Edited on 06.04.2012 1:13 PM PDT]

  • 06.04.2012 1:06 PM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

I'm still looking forward to them explaining the Covenant, and now I suppose I can add the Didact to that as well.

  • 06.04.2012 1:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sliding Ghost
Posted by: CoolCJ24
I'm really, really hoping the Elites get fed up of being beaten back, get their pride on, and we witness an Elites vs. Promethean Knights skirmish, with the Elites brandishing Energy Swords and really giving the Knights their all.
Sweet Jesus yes!

Sword Elites have been mistreated for so long. If you're interested in gameplay, then continue reading and see their plight...

It's not good when they:

-can't leap
-die by running off the edge (also at the end of TotS)
-waste their time tossing grenades at enemies that won't be killed by them. Combat forms and Brutes are easier for H3 Elites but only because I helped
-are given weak shields and expected to perform well (H2 Zealots)
-have poor prioritization (this has been the case since CE but it's been getting worse ever since)

Even in the H4 demo, the first victim of the new enemies was a sword Elite. :(

I hope H4 has some epic sword Elite moments, gives them a chance to fight back. Epic 2 way battles (without bs like Flood, Sentinels, and Brutes) are what I'm expecting. Kinda like the Gravemind Mausoleum battle but much bigger in scope.

I doubt im the only one who jumped with joy at the sight of the elite getting vaporized, and the other elite getting stabbed and tossed aside like trash by the knight (end of video).

It is poetic justice in my opinion, all these images we have gotten of elites arrogantly holding helpless humans by the neck with one hand, and then swiftly impaling them with their swords. I think it was awesome to see a reversal of situations, now the elites are the helpless ones getting trashed by these new guys.
They stand 10'1'' and weigh 934 lbs, And they teleport and speed-blitz too, man they are awesome. . . Has anyone noticed the little organic-looking arms they have in their midsections? Perhaps they are living organisms augmented. . . aahh whatever, i really dont know. Man that was awesome.


[Edited on 06.04.2012 2:33 PM PDT]

  • 06.04.2012 2:31 PM PDT
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Wort, wort, wort!

Anyone remembers Halo 3 E3 trailer? Marty had said, that no other game will open with a piano. And I don't really remember this new music. I mean, it was really generic. Too much electro and a bit too much epicness, for a lack of better words. Kinda lost the Halo atmosphere, hasn't it? It might be better for the game tho, can't wait to hear what we are going to call the forerunner theme. Flood had a great goosebump inducing one.

  • 06.04.2012 2:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sliding Ghost
Posted by: CoolCJ24

I doubt im the only one who jumped with joy at the sight of the elite getting vaporized, and the other elite getting stabbed and tossed aside like trash by the knight (end of video).

It is poetic justice in my opinion, all these images we have gotten of elites arrogantly holding helpless humans by the neck with one hand, and then swiftly impaling them with their swords. I think it was awesome to see a reversal of situations, now the elites are the helpless ones getting trashed by these new guys.
They stand 10'1'' and weigh 934 lbs, And they teleport and speed-blitz too, man they are awesome. . .

Has anyone noticed the little organic-looking arms they have in their midsections? Perhaps they are living organisms augmented. . . aahh whatever, i really dont know. Man that was awesome.
For me, it was excitement.

True point but still, we never saw Elites doing that stuff to humans in gameplay. We only saw Brutes do it. If anything, it's the Brutes that should be being humiliated like that. I don't know about you, but every time I play Uprising and see all these dead Elites, I can understand the Elite perspective quite well.

And I just noticed the appendages. That is really odd.

[Edited on 06.04.2012 3:01 PM PDT]

  • 06.04.2012 2:58 PM PDT

:P

Foman is awesome!


Posted by: Sliding Ghost
Posted by: CoolCJ24
I'm really, really hoping the Elites get fed up of being beaten back, get their pride on, and we witness an Elites vs. Promethean Knights skirmish, with the Elites brandishing Energy Swords and really giving the Knights their all.
Sweet Jesus yes!

Sword Elites have been mistreated for so long. If you're interested in gameplay, then continue reading and see their plight...

It's not good when they:

-can't leap
-die by running off the edge (also at the end of TotS)
-waste their time tossing grenades at enemies that won't be killed by them. Combat forms and Brutes are easier for H3 Elites but only because I helped
-are given weak shields and expected to perform well (H2 Zealots)
-have poor prioritization (this has been the case since CE but it's been getting worse ever since)

Even in the H4 demo, the first victim of the new enemies was a sword Elite. :(

I hope H4 has some epic sword Elite moments, gives them a chance to fight back. Epic 2 way battles (without bs like Flood, Sentinels, and Brutes) are what I'm expecting. Kinda like the Gravemind Mausoleum battle but much bigger in scope.

I remember seeing a very short clip earlier today where a Promethean Knight picked up a sword elite off the ground by the neck and tossed him like he was nothing. The elites would have a fight on their hands for sure.

  • 06.04.2012 9:47 PM PDT
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I am going with the Master Builder. I didn't recognize the symbol, I knew it meant to portray the Didact at first, but the spinning and the differences with the Terminals suggests that there is something that is different with this guy.

[Edited on 06.05.2012 12:14 AM PDT]

  • 06.05.2012 12:13 AM PDT
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Posted by: JJAB91

Posted by: Sliding Ghost
Posted by: CoolCJ24
I'm really, really hoping the Elites get fed up of being beaten back, get their pride on, and we witness an Elites vs. Promethean Knights skirmish, with the Elites brandishing Energy Swords and really giving the Knights their all.
Sweet Jesus yes!

Sword Elites have been mistreated for so long. If you're interested in gameplay, then continue reading and see their plight...

It's not good when they:

-can't leap
-die by running off the edge (also at the end of TotS)
-waste their time tossing grenades at enemies that won't be killed by them. Combat forms and Brutes are easier for H3 Elites but only because I helped
-are given weak shields and expected to perform well (H2 Zealots)
-have poor prioritization (this has been the case since CE but it's been getting worse ever since)

Even in the H4 demo, the first victim of the new enemies was a sword Elite. :(

I hope H4 has some epic sword Elite moments, gives them a chance to fight back. Epic 2 way battles (without bs like Flood, Sentinels, and Brutes) are what I'm expecting. Kinda like the Gravemind Mausoleum battle but much bigger in scope.

I remember seeing a very short clip earlier today where a Promethean Knight picked up a sword elite off the ground by the neck and tossed him like he was nothing. The elites would have a fight on their hands for sure.
It's a matter of numbers. They still have a chance.

If 20 beam rifle and 40 sword Elites can take Tartarus (the only reason they can't is because the boss is cheap), then these Promethean Knights will be child's play. Of course, if there's more Knights, the Elites are screwed.

[Edited on 06.05.2012 5:02 AM PDT]

  • 06.05.2012 5:01 AM PDT

Well, it's implied in the demo they've seen the 'orb' before and know what it is, because when it appears at the beginning of the demo they're not say 'what is that?' and instead say 'we know where he's going.'

I know 'he' is a generic pronoun, but when presented with a giant orb in the sky you're more likely to say 'it' unless you already know who's inside.

I'm better it's the Master Builder, perhaps posing as the Didact.

  • 06.05.2012 5:21 AM PDT

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Posted by: Commander Stroll
Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz


Posted by: Quantam
I am going with the Master Builder. I didn't recognize the symbol, I knew it meant to portray the Didact at first, but the spinning and the differences with the Terminals suggests that there is something that is different with this guy.

I agree, feels like it will be Faber (although IIRC didn't he die in Cryptum?)

  • 06.05.2012 5:28 AM PDT
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Posted by: Sliding Ghost

For me, it was excitement.

True point but still, we never saw Elites doing that stuff to humans in gameplay. We only saw Brutes do it. If anything, it's the Brutes that should be being humiliated like that. I don't know about you, but every time I play Uprising and see all these dead Elites, I can understand the Elite perspective quite well.

And I just noticed the appendages. That is really odd.


I mean images like this :http://desktopia.net/games/halo-reach-multiplayer-madness-des ktop-wallpaper/

and this:

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=halo+reach+concept+art&um= 1&hl=en&biw=1680&bih=935&tbm=isch&tbnid=r sOgsbzN1-9kUM:&imgrefurl=http://matrixbanana.wordpress.co m/2010/03/12/halo-reach/&docid=uqqEv_AqtcN6_M&imgurl= http://matrixbanana.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/halo-20080820 -fall-of-reach-concept-art-31.jpg&w=1800&h=766&ei =fx3OT_P9IeKK6QH7wJWeDA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=438&am p;vpy=330&dur=3122&hovh=146&hovw=344&tx=203&a mp;ty=78&sig=107036885931952031611&page=1&tbnh=62 &tbnw=145&start=0&ndsp=42&ved=1t:429,r:11,s:0 ,i:134

But yeah I would also love to see brutes get torn in half by those things as well (the scene from glasslands where naomi snapped the brute's spine was good enough). You saw when MC put up his fists in the video, and the knight simply wacked and he flew back 10 meters.

My one question with all this is why do the 3 revealed enemies all have "promethean" before their names? I doubt these are the only enemies to be revealed. And where does the species from terminals 5&6 fit into all of this? I doubt 343 would dedicate 2 entire terminals to a species: show it's architecture, discuss it's origins, showcase how advanced they were 40,000 years ago, even show their language. . . all to have them not appear in the new games. Maybe they will and i'm getting a little impatient, or maybe they are connected with these new enemies.

Those little arms on the knights don't look particularly useful, perhaps they are organic arms: their real arms. And their is actually an organic species inside the armor. Or they are just entirely robotic and im thinking too hard.


[Edited on 06.05.2012 8:08 AM PDT]

  • 06.05.2012 8:06 AM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

Posted by: qirahs
I mean images like this :http://desktopia.net/games/halo-reach-multiplayer-madness-des ktop-wallpaper/

and this:

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=halo+reach+concept+art&um= 1&hl=en&biw=1680&bih=935&tbm=isch&tbnid=r sOgsbzN1-9kUM:&imgrefurl=http://matrixbanana.wordpress.co m/2010/03/12/halo-reach/&docid=uqqEv_AqtcN6_M&imgurl= http://matrixbanana.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/halo-20080820 -fall-of-reach-concept-art-31.jpg&w=1800&h=766&ei =fx3OT_P9IeKK6QH7wJWeDA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=438&am p;vpy=330&dur=3122&hovh=146&hovw=344&tx=203&a mp;ty=78&sig=107036885931952031611&page=1&tbnh=62 &tbnw=145&start=0&ndsp=42&ved=1t:429,r:11,s:0 ,i:134

But yeah I would also love to see brutes get torn in half by those things as well (the scene from glasslands where naomi snapped the brute's spine was good enough). You saw when MC put up his fists in the video, and the knight simply wacked and he flew back 10 meters.

My one question with all this is why do the 3 revealed enemies all have "promethean" before their names? I doubt these are the only enemies to be revealed. And where does the species from terminals 5&6 fit into all of this? I doubt 343 would dedicate 2 entire terminals to a species: show it's architecture, discuss it's origins, showcase how advanced they were 40,000 years ago, even show their language. . . all to have them not appear in the new games. Maybe they will and i'm getting a little impatient, or maybe they are connected with these new enemies.

Those little arms on the knights don't look particularly useful, perhaps they are organic arms: their real arms. And their is actually an organic species inside the armor. Or they are just entirely robotic and im thinking too hard.

That second one is actually just fan art by a guy who made up his own fall of Reach movie script.

  • 06.05.2012 9:37 AM PDT
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I'm aware of those concept art. But I had something else in mind.

Nonetheless, Brutes are worse imo. Just look at Col. Ackerson. Elites only kill with the sword. They don't torture. And when they kill with the sword, it's considered honorable. Not to mention only high ranking and religious Elites could use swords.

Posted by: qirahs
But yeah I would also love to see brutes get torn in half by those things as well (the scene from glasslands where naomi snapped the brute's spine was good enough).

You saw when MC put up his fists in the video, and the knight simply wacked and he flew back 10 meters.
Brutes deserve it.

Maybe it was just the sword the Knights wield?

Posted by: qirahs
My one question with all this is why do the 3 revealed enemies all have "promethean" before their names? I doubt these are the only enemies to be revealed. And where does the species from terminals 5&6 fit into all of this? I doubt 343 would dedicate 2 entire terminals to a species: show it's architecture, discuss it's origins, showcase how advanced they were 40,000 years ago, even show their language. . . all to have them not appear in the new games. Maybe they will and i'm getting a little impatient, or maybe they are connected with these new enemies.
Yeah, those 3 can't be the only new enemies.

On the other hand, the Knights are identified as the 'central occupying force'.

Posted by: qirahs
Those little arms on the knights don't look particularly useful, perhaps they are organic arms: their real arms. And their is actually an organic species inside the armor. Or they are just entirely robotic and im thinking too hard.
Either way is possible.

[Edited on 06.05.2012 10:49 AM PDT]

  • 06.05.2012 10:02 AM PDT

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Posted by: Sp4rksLT
Well, I thought I was gonna hate it, but from what I've seen. It's pretty good. I don't like some of the artistic updates.. And if they don't explain how Chief's armor changed so much I will really hate it. BAD 343! I can get behind grunts' pressure suits being upgraded and stuff, I kinda liked the new enviroment and the enemy mechanics were great. I'm wondering is the full game going to butcher the Halo canon or not.

*hopes to get an explanation for MC's new look*
My guess would be that it's just a different artist interpretation. If you look at the gameplay footage of Chief, he still has the damage on his right pectoral plate which was present in H3. If it was brand new armor, why would they give it to him with damage? Keep in mind, that's just what I think and I could be completely wrong. Here's my proof.

[Edited on 06.05.2012 10:12 AM PDT]

  • 06.05.2012 10:10 AM PDT
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This time, I shall reign TRIUMPHANT!"

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I made a thread in the Flood about armor customization here. You can add that to the OP if you want/find it relevant.

  • 06.05.2012 10:46 AM PDT

Vengeance only leads to an ongoing cycle of hatred.

Anybody else want Buck's squad to return?

  • 06.05.2012 12:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: Commander Stroll
Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz


Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
Anybody else want Buck's squad to return?

We all do... <3

Thanks halo3genius, will ad to OP soon.

  • 06.05.2012 2:44 PM PDT

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What interest me is the watcher they are like,the new engineer, yet can create enemies. Also I wonder if a knight can make more watchers. Plus how are the prometheans created.

Also what I want to know is where he got the new suit. Did the ball give it to him or as some calll it a cryptum. It felt like he was familiar with the cryptum. Also maybe his armour was slightly upgraded but due to complications due to the elites maybe damaging some systems it could not be upgraded properly. Also maybe the cryptum upgraded it for him and made it in the shape familiar to him.

Though likely to have happened earlier due to other reasons. Maybe cortana will use some data and the tools and machines in the ship to get him upgraded.

  • 06.05.2012 7:16 PM PDT

According to this the reason why the Covenant is on Requiem is because they believe one of their gods are there. It is also interesting that Spartan Ops takes place 6 months after the campaign.

  • 06.05.2012 8:59 PM PDT

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