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Subject: So the Forerunners are the bad guys in Halo 4?

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Posted by: BlackOps Fox
so you've played Halo 4 and beaten already have you?


I have and I still cant figure out whats going on...

  • 06.05.2012 3:49 PM PDT

心の中に弱い風が吹いています。

The interesting thing is when the larger enemy pins the Chief and opens its "helmet" there's a human like skull on the inside. I wonder what that's all about?

  • 06.05.2012 4:13 PM PDT

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i'm gonna go with the theory that 2 posts above said. Humns captured and repurposed into "knights" by actual promethians. Would explain how the chief is able to hold his own against one of those things... might also explain why their weaponry functions so much like ours.

Also in the campaign trailer, it's interesting to note that for a single frame, there appeared to be an "Arctic" version of the knights and one of those crawlers. The arctic crawler looks even more like a modern-day dog though... ears and everything.

  • 06.05.2012 5:13 PM PDT

Posted by: Wolverfrog

Posted by: Chester Duncan
No. Didact was killed by the Master Builder


We didn't see it happen. That means there's a high chance that it didn't happen. He'll return; either he or Bornstellar will be the one to activate the rings as shown in the Terminals, and the surviving Didact will be the one we see in Halo 4.
You have a point, false news is easy to spread, so he could have been held captive, meaning there ARE two Didacts.

Also OP it's not sure if Forerunners are actually enemies, the Promethean Defense AIs were just defending Requiem, and nothing indicates that the Forerunners or the Didact are this "ancient evil" except the very last part of the trailer.

We'll just have to wait for the game.


Posted by: Bryanesie
The interesting thing is when the larger enemy pins the Chief and opens its "helmet" there's a human like skull on the inside. I wonder what that's all about?
2 theories.

1. The skull is Forerunner, more specifically a mold of a Promethean Forerunner skull. Forerunners are mammalian and might even look SOMEWHAT human, look at the holes where a nose would be, they look different and the eye sockets are massive.

2. Those are human skull molds used for some unknown reason.

I doubt the skull is an ACTUAL skull, more likely just a mechanical mold used to intimidate foes.

[Edited on 06.05.2012 5:42 PM PDT]

  • 06.05.2012 5:39 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Well, if the Terminals show us anything is that the Didact might be pissed.

343 Guilty Spark: "But what I would not give to have earned a single company of Prometheans here right now. They would most certainly restore order with their trademark lethality, although...that would mean he would have to be here, too. And without the Librarian around to temper his rage, well... These Reclaimers might almost prefer the Flood."

  • 06.05.2012 5:49 PM PDT


Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Well, if the Terminals show us anything is that the Didact might be pissed.

343 Guilty Spark: "But what I would not give to have earned a single company of Prometheans here right now. They would most certainly restore order with their trademark lethality, although...that would mean he would have to be here, too. And without the Librarian around to temper his rage, well... These Reclaimers might almost prefer the Flood."
The thing is we probably won't know WHY until either Halo 4 or Silentium.

  • 06.05.2012 5:50 PM PDT

First off, when does it ever say the mendicant got destroyed? when he fought offensive bias? because it stated pretty clearly that he was alive after that fight and was just fragmented into different parts. This clearly shows that you never read the Terminals because Mendicant is -blam!- talking to you the whole time! also you can pay attention to him being in Halo 2 if you saw the easter eggs of Cortana's conversation with Mendicant.

[Edited on 06.05.2012 8:26 PM PDT]

  • 06.05.2012 8:24 PM PDT

The enemies were Promethean constructs, not actual Prometheans themselves. In Cryptum, it is told Prometheans were under the command of the Didact, and I don't necessarily believe Bornstellar ( The Didact ), or even the original Didact, who greatly regretted the Human-Forerunner war for the misunderstanding and great defeat it brought, would suddenly decide to turn coat and be a new antagonist.

But time will tell when the game or games comes around.

  • 06.05.2012 8:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: xGCx Hierarchs
First off, when does it ever say the mendicant got destroyed? when he fought offensive bias? because it stated pretty clearly that he was alive after that fight and was just fragmented into different parts. This clearly shows that you never read the Terminals because Mendicant is -blam!- talking to you the whole time! also you can pay attention to him being in Halo 2 if you saw the easter eggs of Cortana's conversation with Mendicant.


For all purposes and intents, the fragment at the ark was the last bit of Mendicant Bias, so when the Ark got destroyed it was destroyed as well.

  • 06.05.2012 9:08 PM PDT

ULTIMATE FAILURE.

Something to note about the skull inside the Promethean Knight: Forerunners and Humans share a common ancestor, and look relatively similar in terms of body structure. Sure, Forerunners as a rule are taller and longer lived, along with a greater variation in skin tone, but the basic structure is still there. It seems more likely that the "human skull" was in fact supposed to be a forerunner skull.

  • 06.06.2012 1:46 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: hotshot revan II

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
That isn't confirmed quite yet. Forerunner creations defending their installation doesn't really signal the Forerunners being the enemy. And the Didact's symbol flipping around...weird.


I think Didact was inside that ball.

The symbol had the same color as the balls lighting.



Maybe, but that's if it's the Didact. When I saw his symbol invert, it made me think of the inverted cross. That is usually used as a symbol for the anti-Christ, so who would be the anti-Didact?

Faber? It somewhat fits, seeing as how Faber commissioned the Halos... and MC has blown up two already.

"I've been waiting a long time for this, Reclaimer."

[Edited on 06.06.2012 7:27 AM PDT]

  • 06.06.2012 7:27 AM PDT


Posted by: firedune
Also in the campaign trailer, it's interesting to note that for a single frame, there appeared to be an "Arctic" version of the knights and one of those crawlers. The arctic crawler looks even more like a modern-day dog though... ears and everything.


I've heard the theory that the arctic version you are referring to are the good guy version of those promethian (spl.) A.I.

The bad (anti-didact?) are orange lined and the good (the Didact) are the allies for UNSC.

At some point in the game if the Didact's mental was in shambles and then brought back to normalcy, the promethian (spl.) A.I. flip the script and fight WITH the chief and against MB, pre-cursors and covies (maybe).

we'll see.

[Edited on 06.07.2012 4:02 PM PDT]

  • 06.07.2012 3:00 PM PDT

Why would the Precursors ever fight with any Forerunners? The Forerunners tried to exterminate the Precursors...for that matter why would either bother with the Covenant or whatever is left with it? Also, there have to be some Sangheliums that side with the UNSC, that -blam!-ing -blam!- -blam!- Parangosky could not have gotten all of them to hate everyone. The organization of the Sangheiliums post-Schism is one thing I am eager to see the Reclaimer trilogy solve, as I love them so and want to see them allied with the UEG.

  • 06.07.2012 8:47 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: TheConstable6
Why would the Precursors ever fight with any Forerunners? The Forerunners tried to exterminate the Precursors.


I think you answered your own question.

  • 06.07.2012 8:52 PM PDT

Fight on the side of, I meant.

  • 06.07.2012 8:59 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Oh then, no, they would never ally with the Forerunners.

  • 06.07.2012 9:01 PM PDT

I agree, the Precursors would never trust Medicant Bias, hell, they wouldn't deal with anyone, not Forerunners, Covenant races, humans... They invented biodiversity. I don't think we'll see them.

  • 06.07.2012 9:04 PM PDT

I DO have time to bleed...i just dont want to.


Posted by: Eight Bit
Spartan vs Forerunner vs Covenant vs Flood? I like it.

flood arent in it

  • 06.08.2012 9:14 AM PDT

i noticed some more differences between the didacts symbol and the one at the end of the trailer. in the symbol is redish-orange
but here http://www.halopedian.com/The_Didact the symbol is light blue and also has anonther empty hexagon in the middle that the one from the trailer didn't.

[Edited on 06.08.2012 9:23 AM PDT]

  • 06.08.2012 9:20 AM PDT

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its a 17+ game. on the back of the game box it says "game experience may change online" and at the age of 12 i know most boys are NOT going to say "eww, cooties" at pics on some fileshares.


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Posted by: BlackOps Fox
so you've played Halo 4 and beaten already have you?


Mendicant Bias was in the Ark computer systems when it was destroyed by the detonating Halo, he's dead and people don't seem to realize that. There is no keyship with his fragment on it anymore, that was on the Ark too, and so it is destroyed.

I do think it could be offensive bias however as he was purely the Didact's creation which would explain the use of his symbol, upside down or not, we're looking at either Bornstellar/Didact or Offensive Bias at the least. I'm leaning towards the Bornstellar/Didact considering it was he who fired the rings from the Ark and os it makes sense for it to be him, entombed on a shield world outside the Galactic Rim.

  • 06.09.2012 6:53 AM PDT

Posted by: deathman1000

Mendicant Bias was in the Ark computer systems when it was destroyed by the detonating Halo, he's dead and people don't seem to realize that. There is no keyship with his fragment on it anymore, that was on the Ark too, and so it is destroyed.


The Ark wasn't destroyed, it was just damaged. Only the new Halo was destroyed.

  • 06.09.2012 11:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: hotshot revan II

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
That isn't confirmed quite yet. Forerunner creations defending their installation doesn't really signal the Forerunners being the enemy. And the Didact's symbol flipping around...weird.


I think Didact was inside that ball.

The symbol had the same color as the balls lighting.



Maybe, but that's if it's the Didact. When I saw his symbol invert, it made me think of the inverted cross. That is usually used as a symbol for the anti-Christ, so who would be the anti-Didact?
Thats exactly what I thought of with the inverted symbol. Whatever is in that Cryptum, it doesn't like the Infinity, or anything going around Requiem.
After that orange energy wave went throuh the Infinity, all the monitors on that ship displayed the inverted Didact symbol. Strange indeed.

  • 06.09.2012 11:22 AM PDT

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[Edited on 06.10.2012 7:57 AM PDT]

  • 06.10.2012 7:54 AM PDT

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Posted by: xReconAssassinX
Guys, they're Prometheans. Look at this video.


Promethean Crawlers, Knights and Watchers. This are not the Promethean warriors we read about in Cryptum/Primordium.

  • 06.10.2012 9:29 AM PDT

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This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Well, if the Terminals show us anything is that the Didact might be pissed.

343 Guilty Spark: "But what I would not give to have earned a single company of Prometheans here right now. They would most certainly restore order with their trademark lethality, although...that would mean he would have to be here, too. And without the Librarian around to temper his rage, well... These Reclaimers might almost prefer the Flood."


I´m going to assume that´s from the CEA terminals, which I haven´t been able to see yet.

Can you explain to me what 343 is talking about in that fragment you put up? I don´t understand the whole restoring order thing. Is this after or before the events of Alpha Halo?

  • 06.10.2012 10:01 AM PDT

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