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Posted by: George 257
I've been meaning to diss Halo 4 for a long time. And I have been dissing it so far, but this might interest you more than what I have been cooking up:
343 learned nothing from Bungie. To me it seems they think they know everything better. They made John speak a lot, they make him move a lot during cutscenes, they make him vulnerable and they oh god brought the BR back! YES!
To me it seems as if they are listening to Halo "fans" whining and they are making EVERYTHING better!
Now what if I told you, Bungie were never idiots. What they did was because they made choices! Ohh, what if they made John seldom speak because it was bad-ass and because it was YOU behind that helmet. Now it is some guy who talks too much.
It is Bungie's love and generosity that allows them to tolerate this. I cannot.Yup.
Posted by: Courageous Mike
It looks alot like Crysis to me.
The bad guys look almost exactly like the Ceph.
Yes.
Posted by: FalconStickr
117 is a quiet man and you should know that. He dosnt need to speak his actions say everything. And I think the OP forgets that Halo 1,2&3 were made when the tech wasnt as good as it is now. Halo 4 just looks disappointing. 343 wont get my money Indeed.
Posted by: ErranInfigo
They basically reskinned human weapons and called them forerunner weapons, then added an effect where the enemies atomized upon death.Yeah.
Posted by: the real Janaka
Just wanted to add my voice to the choir, saying that Halo 4 looked bland at best, great graphics, but still...
Halo has taken inspiration from various fictions in the past, but always managed to refine and make them its own. Whatever it was MS showed at E3 was not refined. It hurts me when I look at something that's supposed to be Halo, and all I see is Crysis (foremost 2) and some other sci-fi stereotypes.
And ontop of that we have the cinematography, script and direction, everything feels off. Are those aspects of the game that is in need of renewal? Are they really that stale and old?
Cortana screaming in the end for instance, who directed that mess? Poor Jen...
I know 343i has said that they're making Halo their own, in that case they should at least have the courtesy of calling it "343i's Halo 4", just like Peter Jackson did with King Kong.
Furthermore: as a friend pointed out, Chief Made a fantastic choice when directly rushing forth, just after having seen an elite being disintegrated within a second, by a single beam. Good move Chief, good move.Exactly! Especially the part about Cortana.
Posted by: Raksonix
I just don't like what they have done with the weapons, like the sniper rifle from halo 3 looked really nice and now they made it ugly in my opinion. Same with the battle riffle, the only weapon that looked better in the gameplay was the assault rifle, and to be fair i am barely going going to use that gun online or even in the campaign. I think if they change things it should be for the better and not to make things worse.Yep.
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Posted by: Courageous Mike
It looks alot like Crysis to me.
Crysis was always a copy of Halo. Not an exact copy, but there were way too many similarities. That was back when it was a good game, so I wasn't bothered with it. Now Crysis is a number of other popular games added into the mix and has become a linear piece of crap. If 343i do to Halo what CryTek did to Crysis, Halo 4 will be one horrible game.Kinda agreed. Kinda.
Posted by: George 257
I would like to make myself clear:
As to Chief - I didn't like his movement during the cutscenes. In Anniversary and Halo 4. Both made by 343. I instead liked how he moved in the original trilogy and how Spartans moved in Reach. Since 1,2,3 weren't as technologically advanced I assume Reach shows Bungie's taste in "cinematic movement."
Now what I like about it: efficient, soldier-like, badass, bit like a cyborg. Simply Spartan.
Also - his speech. He always did one-liners, but only during cutscenes and even then it was rare. He spoke 4 time too many during the trailer.
Now why would I mind him speaking? Because it's Bungie's nice tradition of making the character more generic so that you could place yourself in his shoes. Chief and Noble Six speak rarely and Rookie never even had a voice actor to begin with. This also good in the way you can actually use your imagination and make it up yourself (if you have any, and yes this is meant to be an offense). It gives the character a mystery, very present in Bungie games. (Also remember Cyborg from Marathon - you will understand a lot about Halo if you recall it).
And his armor looks pretty weird to me. Not as aesthetically pleasing as Bungie's MJOLNIR was.I think it shows too much body I guess.
But I do like that you can feel much more like him, since he make more noises (though contra-productively), and the helmet can be seen a little. This is nice.
As of Cortana - I appreciate her talking more, she was always the talker and made up a lot of Halo's atmosphere. Seeing her face is well... interesting I guess, no opinion Skype calls. But what is sad is what they did to her in the trailer. I understand this is not all of her, but if they want to study rampancy, they should play Marathon again.
- Learn from what Bungie was teaching, we play what Bungie teaches. You might not know it, but this is a direct continuation of Halo 3 story. I hoped 343 wouldn't mess with it, since they chose to continue instead of making up their own (lack of imagination, again?). I thought this was obvious, but I suppose I had to make it clear.
As of the Covenant - they look horrible. I like the color scheme they chose, but they look plain bad. Maybe you have the clarification as of why, but I do not wish to delve into it much.
And there's the thing with Forerunners, but I will not bore you with it, since I could rant about it for pAges. I will simply voice my opinion and that is that Greg Bear's books are a crime against the spirit of Halo.
So to be clear: Bungie did some of the things I pointed out different, but some of them wasn't because they were retarded or did not have the technology, but because they did what they thought was best. And they know why they did it. But to me it seems 343 does not, they don't seem to remember what "it" was about and they do eveeerything better, because they know what we need. I think this is arrogant and I can't forgive them for that. I would if they made a completely different story.
But I am in favor of making it more personal, more about exploration. I'm interested in the Forerunners (Halo 3, not novels! and therefore Halo 4), I like to explore and I like mystery. I also like that shot with that tiny Chief looking at Infinity - that was almost like some pretty painting.
Bungie wishes them best, but they are better than me.Hmmmm. Some things i disagree with.