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Subject: Does anyone dislike where the story of the Halo series is going?


Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: ajw34307
7) The Covenant are supposed to look more barbaric, battered and run down. The Elites have assumed control of the Covenant remnants and are completely impotent with technology.

Eh, I'm not actually sure about that one. For years now the theme of the Covenant being this implacable foe that is supposed to look scary and savage has been thoroughly deconstructed. We know that many of them, the Elites in particular, are not actually savages. The Brutes you might get away with, but you'd have a hard time with the Elites. In fact, everything I have seen so far puts them back by about 10 years. They no longer speak comprehensibly - as well as making no sense that the UNSC's translators would degrade or that the Covenant should invent a new language in 4 years, it also depersonalizes the Covenant back into a generic video game enemy that mumbles and blabbers incoherently when you shoot at them. It almost robs them of the capacity to have any sort of personality.

Their aesthetics is also a similar issue I have. Thel and Rtas would not have half of the dignity they have as characters looking like that, and it is not the run down armour or the Gears of War style "sleeves off" job going on. They look feral and animalistic. The obvious intention is that they are enemies and enemies need to be scary and all that stuff in order for most people to know that they are supposed to shoot them, but again it degrades what they became at the end of the last decade. I'm not sure it is a good idea to continue something at the expense of prior storytelling.

The real issue here is how the Covenant are back together again and at war with Humanity, (And no matter how many books Traviss can churn out a year, that doesn't change the fact that Halo 3 made it more than patently clear that the Elites in particular were more or less on our side) but at least we didn't need this depersonalization just because they happen to be enemies again.


Some of this is opinion based, but a couple of things.

What they became in the last decade was a warrior culture with no wars to fight, a warrior culture with no scientists to keep their technology running. We already have confirmation that the Elites splintered into several factions and fought miniature civil wars with themselves. A Game Informer article just published talking about S:OPs heavily implied that there is more than one Covenant faction being dealt with in H4, or at least in S:OPs. The Covies on Requiem are still believers on the old faith; the first S:OPs mission is about these believers.

Now does that mean that throughout the whole trilogy we'll be fighting Covenant? No. Maybe not even throughout Halo 4, not once this Evil starts gearing up. So the Covenant are in no way back together fighting us, these are just one splintered group from those civil wars. You may be able to hardly call it a war with humanity, but more of a battle brought about by conflicting purposes. So ignoring that they may look like enemies, no one said that we won't join forces somewhere down the line.

We really can't cast judgement until we know the whole story.

[Edited on 06.07.2012 7:38 PM PDT]

  • 06.07.2012 7:37 PM PDT

Haters are going to hate.
Praisers are going to praise.

The Bungie Forums are what keeps my mind sharp and my fingers active, between writing my own movie scripts, drawing, and studying industrial design. At the moment I'm working on miniatures for a short movie that I'll hopefully be able to film once I've saved up for a camera... That's me, with the mug, trying to have a conversation with Konoko.

This thread has become uncivilized and unfocused. Sadly I don't have the time to contribute with anything else than a few points/questions, that might help stimulate the discussion.

#1. Halo being dead. Well, Halo shouldn't really be concidered dead just because it isn't the top dog anymore, nor should it be concidered alive just because it is guaranteed to sell.

What is your definition of a franchise being dead[i/] or [i]alive? (And don't answer Team Ninjas Dead or Alive :P )Super Mario for instance? A new Gears of War prequel, was that necessary? A fourth Halo game, could another book have sufficed, they're after all pumping out quite a few trilogies?


#2. Opinions. Is it really wise to try and defend 4 with opinions that may not translate to what Halo has been? This thread is after all about liking or disliking where Halo is taken. Is it really releveant if you happen to like one of the changes if it is a change? For better or for worse? If you didn't like how it was, why not let those who did suffer with it, why try to defend something that clearly changes Halo?
For instance, saying that it's still Halo if it looks this way, or, it's still Halo of it sounds this way...
Halo was Halo because it looked and sounded a certain way, etc.

Try and think of some examples where you wouldn't like change, just as a thought experiment.

Of coarse, it can be hard to identify what made/makes Halo, Halo, but as I see it, that's the most important aspect of this discussion.

Personally, I became a fan of how Halo was, not cause of what it could become. The only things that have strengthened Halo-if you ask me--are tweaks, not changes.

If you want new stuff, play another game!

#3. Expansion. What can you add before you break it? If you liked the Halo 4 e3 demo, what would break Halo, if added?

When is too much, too much? Would you want Halo to become like Star Wars i.e an ever expanding franchise with lots of worthless products, all justified by the occasional masterpiece?


The point--of these points--that I'm trying to make is that, for me, it has reached its tipping point. I'm trying to see what the last straw would be, for those who like where Halo is going.

When 3 was released I though the series had reached a high.* I concidered Halo as one of the few pure franchises, one without any -blam!-ups. Not anymore.

*ODST was alright, but I'm letting it slide mostly cause of the whose Halo 2 e3 revision. Strangely enough, ODST managed to coat itself with some noir and still feel Halo. Halo 4 feels like an episode of Stargåte Atlantis with Crysis 2 enemies and Call of Duty in your face moments.


UNFOCUSED:
Btw, have you noticed that they hardly use any music in the trailers, it's like they don't believe in it themselves.
Marty always kicks open the door Breaking Bad style!

[Edited on 06.08.2012 2:17 AM PDT]

  • 06.08.2012 2:07 AM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
[...] the general outside, unbiased consensus is that it plays fine.
LOL
First, is it general consensus?
Second, what's not biased about that?


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Better players will always dominate newer players no matter what even with an even playing field.
So making the gap bigger is OK?


Posted by: ajw34307
Oh please, spare me this rubbish. Loadouts have become the norm in just about every FPS game - even Bioshock does it.
And i assume that's a good thing?


Posted by: ajw34307
These MLG players are all saying that it plays like a Halo game.
Call me a sceptic.



Posted by: Sp4rksLT
CoD is a terrible game, most of the people are just too slow to realize it, but now, enough off topic.

The music in the gameplay trailer/footage thingy WAS TERRIBLE. I know it's all personal preference, but that new guy, he didn't capture Halo feel at all. I know I haven't heard the whole soundtrack yet, but there is a reason that Halo's soundtrack is the best selling Halo soundtrack out there.

Now, if you only have played the games and not dwelled in the books Halo 3 ties up everything nicely. Flood is kinda finish, no threat to humanity. Covenant shattered, Sangheili allied with the humans and Chief. Well I really liked what Bungie did to him. He's not dead, but he's resting. That's it, that was his final battle and back in 2007 I accepted it and was completely happy with that idea. Halo 3 had a great, bittersweet ending that closed up the trilogy well.

Now remember, I'm only talking about the games. Without the books there aren't even any other SPARTANs mentioned in the games (talking about the trilogy here still). I personally have played the three Halo games, and then a few years back finally managed to get my hands on the books. They were a great addition to the canon. But then Reach.. yeah, it kinda shattered my faith in Bungie and after Legends I just had to make my own canon rules.

For now all 343 have done with the franchise seems to be instead of trying to build upon Bungie's plot (remember, most of the Bungie-era books were written by Bungie's own writer) and just completely swipe that away and say "yeah well, actually this isn't the greatest terror, THIS is the greatest terror and evil and bla bla bla". The story was taken to new heights? Are you kidding me? All they did was tie up any left over story threads from Bungie times and open completely new ones, and numerous at that. Halo may be grander than ever, but has it any quality left?

And what I've seen of Halo 4's gameplay was ridiculously scripted for that short campaign period and if the game is like that gameplay trailer, well then Halo just went full Crysis. Or CoD, or whatever you want to call it. Bungie didn't take control away unless it was a cutscene. It made the gameplay feel really good (personal preference again).
You said it, bro. Except for the books again. Don't even get me started...


Posted by: ajw34307
- Mendicant Bias tells John he's sending him to the Forerunners. This alone opens up the possibility for a whole new trilogy (which has since been realised).

- Gravemind states we've only delayed his return.

- There are still 6 Halos primed and ready to fire at any time.
Who cares? I certainly don't...


Posted by: the real Janaka
What is your definition of a franchise being dead or alive? (And don't answer Team Ninjas Dead or Alive :P )Super Mario for instance? A new Gears of War prequel, was that necessary? A fourth Halo game, could another book have sufficed, they're after all pumping out quite a few trilogies?
I think that speaks for itself.


Posted by: the real Janaka
Halo was Halo because it looked and sounded a certain way, etc.
Amen.


Posted by: the real Janaka
Try and think of some examples where you wouldn't like change, just as a thought experiment.

Of coarse, it can be hard to identify what made/makes Halo, Halo, but as I see it, that's the most important aspect of this discussion.

Personally, I became a fan of how Halo was, not cause of what it could become. The only things that have strengthened Halo-if you ask me--are tweaks, not changes.

If you want new stuff, play another game!
I can't seem to break it down either, but it may be the clear contrast in design/gameplay, maybe even colours. I think simplistic may be a good word. (I might talk rubbish, but i can't find the right words. Really.)


Posted by: the real Janaka
When is too much, too much? Would you want Halo to become like Star Wars i.e an ever expanding franchise with lots of worthless products, all justified by the occasional masterpiece?
In my eyes, that begins happening right now. And no, I'm not a fan.


Posted by: the real Janaka
The point--of these points--that I'm trying to make is that, for me, it has reached its tipping point. I'm trying to see what the last straw would be, for those who like where Halo is going.

When 3 was released I though the series had reached a high.* I concidered Halo as one of the few pure franchises, one without any -blam!-ups. Not anymore.

*ODST was alright, but I'm letting it slide mostly cause of the whose Halo 2 e3 revision. Strangely enough, ODST managed to coat itself with some noir and still feel Halo. Halo 4 feels like an episode of Stargåte Atlantis with Crysis 2 enemies and Call of Duty in your face moments.
Yes, yes and yes.


Posted by: the real Janaka
Btw, have you noticed that they hardly use any music in the trailers, it's like they don't believe in it themselves.
Marty always kicks open the door Breaking Bad style!
Not taking any chances, perhaps. Or nothing to prove apparently.
Battlefield 3 with it's fart music already turned me off, let's see how far Halo 4 goes.

  • 06.08.2012 9:42 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: realdomdom
Posted by: ajw34307
- Mendicant Bias tells John he's sending him to the Forerunners. This alone opens up the possibility for a whole new trilogy (which has since been realised).

- Gravemind states we've only delayed his return.

- There are still 6 Halos primed and ready to fire at any time.


Who cares? I certainly don't...


Then if you don't care, HOW ARE YOU IN ANY POSITION TO CRITICISE THE STORY? You're going to completely ignore completely obvious facts just because they don't fit with your opinion? Are you for real?

  • 06.08.2012 10:02 AM PDT


Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: realdomdom
Posted by: ajw34307
- Mendicant Bias tells John he's sending him to the Forerunners. This alone opens up the possibility for a whole new trilogy (which has since been realised).

- Gravemind states we've only delayed his return.

- There are still 6 Halos primed and ready to fire at any time.


Who cares? I certainly don't...


Then if you don't care, HOW ARE YOU IN ANY POSITION TO CRITICISE THE STORY? You're going to completely ignore completely obvious facts just because they don't fit with your opinion? Are you for real?
Fictious facts, right? ;D
I need no books that tell me something that could have happened in a video game, sorry.

  • 06.08.2012 10:11 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.


Posted by: realdomdom

Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: realdomdom
Posted by: ajw34307
- Mendicant Bias tells John he's sending him to the Forerunners. This alone opens up the possibility for a whole new trilogy (which has since been realised).

- Gravemind states we've only delayed his return.

- There are still 6 Halos primed and ready to fire at any time.


Who cares? I certainly don't...


Then if you don't care, HOW ARE YOU IN ANY POSITION TO CRITICISE THE STORY? You're going to completely ignore completely obvious facts just because they don't fit with your opinion? Are you for real?
Fictious facts, right? ;D
I need no books that tell me something that could have happened in a video game, sorry.


Do you lack the brain power for basic comprehension? Those 3 major examples ARE NOT IN THE BOOKS, THEY'RE IN HALO 3. -_-

  • 06.08.2012 10:17 AM PDT

Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Halo 3 ODST > Halo Reach > Halo CE

Based on campaigns.

If anything it isnt the return of Chief I don't like, its the fact that the entire new trilogy, fro, what we know, will take place only on Forerunner places. I like Halo when I can relate to it. Seeing the covenant occupation of New Mombasa in Halo 2, fighting alone in a realistic city in ODST, and Sadies story. All these things made the inclusion of the Halo rings, and the Flood and the forerunners all that bit more believable.

With the new trilogy, with almost no inclusion of earth or even our own Galaxy for that matter, i doubt we will be able to find anything to relate to. The story may well be a good one, but I will miss the days when I could relate to Halo and feel as though I'm not just playing another unrealistic sci fi game.

[Edited on 06.08.2012 10:30 AM PDT]

  • 06.08.2012 10:29 AM PDT


Posted by: ajw34307
Those 3 major examples ARE NOT IN THE BOOKS, THEY'RE IN HALO 3. -_-
You say it yourself, those 3 "major examples" are not in the books, they're in Halo 3. Does that mean they should be expanded upon? I think you know my answer. Okay. Thank you.

[Edited on 06.08.2012 10:35 AM PDT]

  • 06.08.2012 10:34 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.


Posted by: realdomdom

Posted by: ajw34307
Those 3 major examples ARE NOT IN THE BOOKS, THEY'RE IN HALO 3. -_-
You say it yourself, those 3 "major examples" are not in the books, they're in Halo 3. Does that mean they should be expanded upon? I think you know my answer. Okay. Thank you.


What? Nothing you say makes any sense. The GAME set up a great deal of plot points that weren't resolved, were then further expanded upon in the Forerunner Saga and inevitably left the door open for the next trilogy, what the -blam!- does anything you just said have to do with that?

  • 06.08.2012 10:39 AM PDT


Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: realdomdom

Posted by: ajw34307
Those 3 major examples ARE NOT IN THE BOOKS, THEY'RE IN HALO 3. -_-
You say it yourself, those 3 "major examples" are not in the books, they're in Halo 3. Does that mean they should be expanded upon? I think you know my answer. Okay. Thank you.


What? Nothing you say makes any sense. The GAME set up a great deal of plot points that weren't resolved, were then further expanded upon in the Forerunner Saga and inevitably left the door open for the next trilogy, what the -blam!- does anything you just said have to do with that?
Either trolling or stupid. Pick one or the other but either way you won't win the argument.

  • 06.08.2012 10:50 AM PDT


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: realdomdom

Posted by: ajw34307
Those 3 major examples ARE NOT IN THE BOOKS, THEY'RE IN HALO 3. -_-
You say it yourself, those 3 "major examples" are not in the books, they're in Halo 3. Does that mean they should be expanded upon? I think you know my answer. Okay. Thank you.


What? Nothing you say makes any sense. The GAME set up a great deal of plot points that weren't resolved, were then further expanded upon in the Forerunner Saga and inevitably left the door open for the next trilogy, what the -blam!- does anything you just said have to do with that?
Either trolling or stupid. Pick one or the other but either way you won't win the argument.
You never heard the word cliffhanger, did you?

  • 06.08.2012 11:13 AM PDT

Wake me when the jews are gone.


Posted by: realdomdom

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: realdomdom

Posted by: ajw34307
Those 3 major examples ARE NOT IN THE BOOKS, THEY'RE IN HALO 3. -_-
You say it yourself, those 3 "major examples" are not in the books, they're in Halo 3. Does that mean they should be expanded upon? I think you know my answer. Okay. Thank you.


What? Nothing you say makes any sense. The GAME set up a great deal of plot points that weren't resolved, were then further expanded upon in the Forerunner Saga and inevitably left the door open for the next trilogy, what the -blam!- does anything you just said have to do with that?
Either trolling or stupid. Pick one or the other but either way you won't win the argument.
You never heard the word cliffhanger, did you?
Wait what? wasn't your hole argument about how Halo 4 didn't feel like Halo and didn't fit it, but you are dismissing facts about the original trilogy?
and cliffhanger really? you know normally cliffhangers are resolved in the next stalment of a series because if not the producers are lazy.
And how can you say that the music/gameplay don't feel Halo when both Bungie, Marty and the people that played it at E3 said it feels like.
Another thing it has already been stated that the killstreaks are Gametype exclusive.

  • 06.08.2012 11:37 AM PDT


Posted by: fsabran
Wait what? wasn't your hole argument about how Halo 4 didn't feel like Halo [...]
Almost correct.


Posted by: fsabran
[...] and didn't fit it, but you are dismissing facts about the original trilogy?
Am i?


Posted by: fsabran
[...] and cliffhanger really? you know normally cliffhangers are resolved in the next stalment of a series because if not the producers are lazy.
If not the producers are lazy. Yes. (Feel the sarcasm.)


Posted by: fsabran
And how can you say that the music/gameplay don't feel Halo when both Bungie, Marty and the people that played it at E3 said it feels like.
Because i'm no-one's whore.


Posted by: fsabran
Another thing it has already been stated that the killstreaks are Gametype exclusive.
I didn't know that. Still. They will be in the game won't they?

  • 06.08.2012 12:21 PM PDT

Haters are going to hate.
Praisers are going to praise.

The Bungie Forums are what keeps my mind sharp and my fingers active, between writing my own movie scripts, drawing, and studying industrial design. At the moment I'm working on miniatures for a short movie that I'll hopefully be able to film once I've saved up for a camera... That's me, with the mug, trying to have a conversation with Konoko.


@ the pyramid above

As I wrote: when is enough, enough? Halo 3 had a couple loose ends, but they all pointed to a--compared to 4--simple resolution. Did we need an entire trilogy games, and two book trilogies?

What happens after Halo 4? Will it resolve EVERYTHING? Or leave us like in Halo 3?

In that case, why not stop now?

If I got to choose, if there had to be something after Halo 3, it should be the long awaited movie. But if that ever comes, Halo as a fiction would be watered out.

Halo 3 had a near perfect ending. A couple of unanswered question does not warrant nine new pieces of media. A single piece (preferably a movie) that tied everything together would suffice, but that's pushing it.

Oh, and if you now say you want more Halo style gameplay in the future, should you really be welcoming gameplay elements from other series, just because everyone does it?

I'm waiting for Destiny, for my Bungie style gameplay.



[Edited on 06.08.2012 12:30 PM PDT]

  • 06.08.2012 12:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: realdomdom

Posted by: fsabran
Wait what? wasn't your hole argument about how Halo 4 didn't feel like Halo [...]
Almost correct.


Posted by: fsabran
[...] and didn't fit it, but you are dismissing facts about the original trilogy?
Am i?


Posted by: fsabran
[...] and cliffhanger really? you know normally cliffhangers are resolved in the next stalment of a series because if not the producers are lazy.
If not the producers are lazy. Yes. (Feel the sarcasm.)


Posted by: fsabran
And how can you say that the music/gameplay don't feel Halo when both Bungie, Marty and the people that played it at E3 said it feels like.
Because i'm no-one's whore.


Posted by: fsabran
Another thing it has already been stated that the killstreaks are Gametype exclusive.
I didn't know that. Still. They will be in the game won't they?
well yes but you will have the option to play all playlists without it as seen here

  • 06.08.2012 1:24 PM PDT


Posted by: fsabran
Another thing it has already been stated that the killstreaks are Gametype exclusive. [/quote]Posted by: realdomdom
I didn't know that. Still. They will be in the game won't they?
well yes but you will have the option to play all playlists without it as seen here
They will be in the game won't they?

  • 06.08.2012 1:27 PM PDT

This is the way the world ends,
This is the way the world ends,
This is the way the world ends;
Not with a bang but a whimper.

In a word: yes. 343, IMO, has taken what seems to be a far too mainstream approach to the FPS when Halo has never been about conforming, but rather making its own unique and highly-praised style.

  • 06.08.2012 1:55 PM PDT

Posted by: realdomdom
Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: realdomdom
What if the torch has gone out?
Then it's reignited.
Some people call that milking. I don't know if you're a fan of that. Probably.

Posted by: ajw34307
Legends had a few stand-out episodes. Origins and The Duel were the most enjoyable, the rest were pretty rubbish but they had their positive aspects too. We were first introduced to the concept of Ancient Humans in The Babysitter, for instance, which has since become quite an integral piece of background lore.
Background lore. Ughhh, BRB barfing.


Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
lol, I knew you couldn't think of anything to logically counter the fact that 343 has expanded the universe and taken it to new heights.
So that's an objective and logical observation? Interesting. Also, LOL to you too.


Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
Also, just because I like Halo 4 makes me a 343 fanboy? Really? Good logic.
Why thank you. You must be familiar with it. It's yours.


Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
I simply admire all the work that 343 is doing.
Yeah. What was that about not being a fanboy?


Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
Unlike Bungie it's improving Halo's story. Making all the fiction have meaning, etc. Not making something like Reach that contradicts and is controversial. They care about the lore and are improving upon it.
So, because Reach was bad, Halo 4 is better?



Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
I admire their work with that. If I was a fanboy I'd bash everything that isn't 343. I actually like Bungie made games like every Halo game except for Reach. I'm not going around putting "3434life" (like Predkiller with "Bungie4life").
I'm reliefed.


Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
But, who am I kidding.
Me.


Posted by: SEAL Sniper 9
We all know you're simply putting that because there's nothing else to counter what I said.
Counter? I'm speaking my mind.

I wouldn't even pay any mind to SEAL Sniper 9. His only purpose here is getting a rouse out of people, essentially playing life like its a game where you see how many people you can 'discredit' or 'defeat'. Don't worry, he's getting what's coming to him, I've already reported like 20 of his flame/troll posts (3 in this thread alone), he will soon be justly rewarded for his trollish, flamish, spammish, and arrogant behavior.

  • 06.08.2012 2:43 PM PDT


Posted by: ThePredkiller2
I wouldn't even pay any mind to SEAL Sniper 9. His only purpose here is getting a rouse out of people, essentially playing life like its a game where you see how many people you can 'discredit' or 'defeat'. Don't worry, he's getting what's coming to him, I've already reported like 20 of his flame/troll posts (3 in this thread alone), he will soon be justly rewarded for his trollish, flamish, spammish, and arrogant behavior.
That's harsh.

  • 06.08.2012 2:50 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: ThePredkiller2

I wouldn't even pay any mind to SEAL Sniper 9. His only purpose here is getting a rouse out of people, essentially playing life like its a game where you see how many people you can 'discredit' or 'defeat'. Don't worry, he's getting what's coming to him, I've already reported like 20 of his flame/troll posts (3 in this thread alone), he will soon be justly rewarded for his trollish, flamish, spammish, and arrogant behavior.


Look out guys we have a badass over here.

  • 06.08.2012 2:52 PM PDT

Wake me when the jews are gone.


Posted by: realdomdom

Posted by: fsabran
Another thing it has already been stated that the killstreaks are Gametype exclusive. [/quote]Posted by: realdomdom
I didn't know that. Still. They will be in the game won't they?
well yes but you will have the option to play all playlists without it as seen here
They will be in the game won't they?
so? you don't need to play with it, i don't see the problem.

  • 06.08.2012 3:40 PM PDT
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10/10 realdomdom.

Good troll, everybody is responding.

I like where the series is going.

  • 06.08.2012 3:55 PM PDT

just relax and have some fun

so what? do you seen the numbers of so called "Halo fans" playing halo 3, a single gametype in MW3 has more.
I play halo 3 daily. i read the books and play the games,
sure it may be a money grab as other people have said but its up to microsfot and 343i maybe 4 is just a way to get a stronger fan base to keep bungies ideas and amazing series alive? how should any of us know? do you work form either company no so just drop all of the "its a fact" BS this game is NEW okay nothing is based purely off what has happened did anybody see how halo started right away go watch all of the trailers for halo 1 first a rts then a strange form of what we call halo everyone on here is just blasting opinions as if the fact some fans wont play it and to THEM its dead others such as myself will see it as a differnt take on the halo universe, halo is what the fans make of it. what they are doing is something called "trial and error" if the fans dont like the prometheans then maybe they'll get killed off and we will see a more farmillier enemy like he halo2 giants crushing sentinal things you say its bad? i respect that but i say its differnt. its like putting hot sauce on your favorite food when you get bored of it. and no offense to xXIHAYD0IXx i just couldnt find a post button and you had a short statement but me personally im not a bungie or a 343 fanboy im a halo fanboy.

  • 06.08.2012 8:10 PM PDT


Posted by: fsabran

Posted by: realdomdom

Posted by: fsabran
Another thing it has already been stated that the killstreaks are Gametype exclusive. [/quote]Posted by: realdomdom
I didn't know that. Still. They will be in the game won't they?
well yes but you will have the option to play all playlists without it as seen here
They will be in the game won't they?
so? you don't need to play with it, i don't see the problem.
They will be in the game, won't they?
(PS: I'm talking about the game, not how i might play it.)


Posted by: Quantam
10/10 realdomdom.
Was i playing some kind of game?


Posted by: Quantam
Good troll, everybody is responding.
Funny.


Posted by: Quantam
I like where the series is going.
I don't.



Posted by: WildProphet
so what? do you seen the numbers of so called "Halo fans" playing halo 3, a single gametype in MW3 has more.
So what?


Posted by: WildProphet
I play halo 3 daily.
Guess you're a "halo fan" then.


Posted by: WildProphet
i read the books and play the games, sure it may be a money grab as other people have said but its up to microsfot and 343i [...]
Of course it is up to them whether they be money-hungry whores or not.


Posted by: WildProphet
[...] maybe 4 is just a way to get a stronger fan base to keep bungies ideas and amazing series alive?
If they do that, what does Bungie do?


Posted by: WildProphet
how should any of us know?
By working for them. That'd be a bulletproof plan.


Posted by: WildProphet
do you work form either company no [...]
How do you know that? ;D
Seriously. How.


Posted by: WildProphet
[...] so just drop all of the "its a fact" BS
I drop BS in a toilet. I don't see how you would want me to do that for you.


Posted by: WildProphet
[...] this game is NEW okay nothing is based purely off what has happened
This game is new.
Halo is old.
PARADOXON.



Posted by: WildProphet
[...] did anybody see how halo started right away go watch all of the trailers for halo 1 first a rts then a strange form of what we call halo
I know that. So what's the point?


Posted by: WildProphet
everyone on here is just blasting opinions as if the fact
Well, like i said. I'm saying my opinion.
(BTW, "like i said" means, i said it before in this very thread.)


Posted by: WildProphet
some fans wont play it and to THEM its dead
Yes.


Posted by: WildProphet
others such as myself will see it as a differnt take on the halo universe,[...]
Okaayy.


Posted by: WildProphet
halo is what the fans make of it.
Life is what you make of it.


Posted by: WildProphet
what they are doing is something called "trial and error" if the fans dont like the prometheans then maybe they'll get killed off and we will see a more farmillier enemy like he halo2 giants crushing sentinal things
LOL
They're writing "Halo" on the cover.
It's like Resident Evil or Silent Hill.
Everything goes down the road.


Posted by: WildProphet
you say its bad? i respect that but i say its differnt. its like putting hot sauce on your favorite food when you get bored of it.
Hot sauce can hurt your tongue.


Posted by: WildProphet
and no offense to xXIHAYD0IXx i just couldnt find a post button and you had a short statement but me personally im not a bungie or a 343 fanboy im a halo fanboy.
A Halo fanboy.
God, what's up with these fanboys...

[Edited on 06.09.2012 1:45 AM PDT]

  • 06.09.2012 1:23 AM PDT

just relax and have some fun

i defended both sides but all you do is pick it apart and find what you don't like, you dont care about others opinions unless they agree with yours. sure this game might not be to your fancy but if you dont care why waste your time blasting anyone who does, its just a game cant we just agree to disagree? good sir or ma'am? i have my opinion as do you there is no point in being uncivilized over this matter.

[Edited on 06.09.2012 2:06 AM PDT]

  • 06.09.2012 1:59 AM PDT