Wake me when the jews are gone.
Posted by: Sp4rksLT
God, ajw, domdom, both of you. What the hell? Both of you are like zealots, blinded by fanaticism. One of Bungie the other of 343.
I was with dom dom on the argument's side, but now I just think both of you are acting like children. Stop and use normal and comprehensive arguments, both of you, not assumptions (especially you ajw, you always use assumptions to break others assumptions).
Just as a comparison to Halo I'll take Marathon. Anyone could write 300 maybe 500 pages about it. It was really mysterious and a lot was left to assumption. And boy was it a great shooter story wise. And shooting wise too. You could even SKIP the story if you weren't paranoid enough to check every last corner. And talk about Infinity. The main character went out of space-time bounds. Did they make Marathon 4 to explain how his existance continued? Nope, left to fan assumptions.
Halo series had this huge magic and mystery surrounding forerunners, and that's what I really liked. Some people will agree, some will not, but the mystery was great. Remember the conspiracies? How everyone in the Universe forum wanted to know what was written in the Halo bible. How people made theories of forerunners (and hell, some fanfic is better than that Bear dude wrote) It made Halo feel deeper and the universe more vast than when explained. Because mysteries, you see, don't have any bounds. I think some things don't need explanation and should be left for your heart and your brain to fill in the gaps as YOU see fit. And that was totally fine.
Now really, like I said before, 343 are trying their best to sever their ties to Bungie's Halo bible and the Bungie era canon and to continue on with the post-Reach 343 phase Halo canon. Because it's easier for them to expand on, because they don't have to ask the writers at Bungie or wherever what they intended to expand upon had they released more books.
And from games only point of view, hell, mysterious ending was just about fine. Cliffhangers aren't a bad thing when executed properly. Anyone seen Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels? Did anyone demand a sequel for that?
We knew that Chief either rests forever, or goes on some new adventure, but really do we need to know what happens to him? He ended the war, went through enough. Let his god damn character rest, will ya?
343 IS created for the sole purpose of milking Halo. And like I said before, it's up to them to either try to make quality content for as long as they can, or just surrender and try to make as MUCH content as they can. Because from what I've seen,
Bungie time unexplainded mysteries > 343 explained partial BS. (not all the time, but mostly, and personal preference yet again!)First of don't say 343 took the reach way because they didn't the first thing they did was explain the plotholes in reach with the data packets.
Second if you have been up to date you would know that they are continuing Marathon but that is for another time.
another thing there is a line betwen secrecy and just layzines, im not saying that bungie is lazy and neither are you saying that they wanted Halo to stop a 3 because they had were planing Halo 4 and had even developed some concept before scraping it for Halo Reach, also they said that Halo 4 is good and feels Halo.
The forehuner story needed to be expanded, we only knew that they had sacrificed themselves to stop the Flood with the Halos but that was it, myself and most of my friend weren't nowhere near satisfied with what we knew especially with all the hints bungie kept giving us and when Greg series came out it was butt -blam!- awesome, and the fanfictions about Halo are fricking horrrible honestly.
Also the bungie era books removed some big part of the mstery like why were the covenant attacking us.
Finnaly while the original trilogy was a christian (especially cruzades) allegory i bellieve that 343 took a more modern Cold war aproach with the Sangheili civil war, the ONI Black OPS and the forehuner tecnology arms race.
PS sory about grammar english is not my first language
[Edited on 06.10.2012 2:43 PM PDT]