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Subject: Thank you for handing over Halo to 343

Bungie Please make Halo 4. Don't let anyone else make it!

what you fail to realize is that 343 ruined Halo. Halo 4 looks like utter horse manure. They completely copied cod with perks,killstreaks,xp,sprint,weapon unlocks,etc. Halo 3 was the last true good Halo game. Halo is now dead. lets hope Bungie makes something worthy.

  • 06.07.2012 11:40 AM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: jigsaw0
what you fail to realize is that 343 ruined Halo. Halo 4 looks like utter horse manure. They completely copied cod with perks,killstreaks,xp,sprint,weapon unlocks,etc. Halo 3 was the last true good Halo game. Halo is now dead. lets hope Bungie makes something worthy.


All kinds of wrong in the post above, it's not even funny.

  • 06.07.2012 11:41 AM PDT
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Oh Yes!

Yes, Halo Reach sucked. The same can't be said for Halo 1,2, and 3.

  • 06.07.2012 11:53 AM PDT


Posted by: jigsaw0
what you fail to realize is that 343 ruined Halo. Halo 4 looks like utter horse manure. They completely copied cod with perks,killstreaks,xp,sprint,weapon unlocks,etc. Halo 3 was the last true good Halo game. Halo is now dead. lets hope Bungie makes something worthy.
Basically, yes.



Posted by: DecepticonCobra
All kinds of wrong in the post above, it's not even funny.
Your wrong might be my right. (LOL)



Posted by: Isai16
Yes, Halo Reach sucked. The same can't be said for Halo 1,2, and 3.
Let's say Reach had some "additions" that made some things bad.

  • 06.07.2012 11:58 AM PDT

One cone to splatter em all!!

The so called Old halo died after 3(ODST was awesome though . This IP is just going to be treinvented now and that doesn't mean that were getting H2 Hd that would be stupid.

Indeed the best thing is just closing this chapter called halo but microsoft wants souls and bungie needed to break free from their MS lease. So stop complaining and if you're still wishing for a H2 HD remake then you're just getting old buddy :P.

Let's just see what bungie dishes up next if were still alive in this darkness.

[Edited on 06.07.2012 12:03 PM PDT]

  • 06.07.2012 12:01 PM PDT

Seeing these "Halo 3 i$ k3w1 and Reach sucks" dog feces and the community divide everywhere makes me both ill and sad.

Halo 3 multiplayer was a huge mess compared to Halo 2, so the nostalgic glow effect it gets when compared to Reach really surprises me.

Why was Halo 3 multiplayer objectively bad?
-Stupidly powerful AR
-Ridiculous and broken melee
-non-hitscan projectile physics system, horrid bullet registration & less auto aim (absolutely ruined the consistency of the BR and narrowed the skill gap compared to Halo 2)
-God shotgun & Maulers which were so easy to use
-Along with some good maps, some truly terrible ones (Narrows, Epitaph, Construct, Snowbound, all map packs)

  • 06.07.2012 12:14 PM PDT

Bungie Please make Halo 4. Don't let anyone else make it!

Halo 3 did have it's fault but the gameplay was still solid and unique. Halo 2 was the peak of the series though.

  • 06.07.2012 12:20 PM PDT

Very much agree. Halo 2 nailed maps, weapon balance, and skill gap. It's a shame that Bungie ran out of time to do everything that they wanted to with its campaign.

  • 06.07.2012 12:23 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: jigsaw0
Halo 3 did have it's fault but the gameplay was still solid and unique. Halo 2 was the peak of the series though.


Didn't seem that way when Halo 3 was in it's prime, the Halo 43 forum was as bad if not worse than Reach's.

  • 06.07.2012 12:41 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Didn't seem that way when Halo 3 was in it's prime, the Halo 43 forum was as bad if not worse than Reach's.
So what you're trying to say is?

  • 06.07.2012 12:44 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: realdomdom

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Didn't seem that way when Halo 3 was in it's prime, the Halo 43 forum was as bad if not worse than Reach's.
So what you're trying to say is?


The idea that Halo 3 was a pinnacle of brilliance is hogwash.

  • 06.07.2012 12:45 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
The idea that Halo 3 was a pinnacle of brilliance is hogwash.
What is hogwash?

  • 06.07.2012 12:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
The idea that Halo 3 was a pinnacle of brilliance is hogwash.
What is hogwash?

It's a synonym for bull s h i t.

OT: I never understood the Reach hate. It's a different style of gameplay, but that isn't necessarily bad. It's not a favorite of mine by any means, but I still liked Reach. Halo 4 looks better than Reach and more in line with that all-too-difficult-to-describe 'Halo feel'. Anyone who says the franchise is dead hasn't been paying much attention to the developments in Halo canon over the last few years, and anyone who says the franchise should have stayed dead hasn't paid attention to any franchises ever. (They always come back sooner or later.)

[Edited on 06.07.2012 1:29 PM PDT]

  • 06.07.2012 1:26 PM PDT

Reach had its problems, yes (some dodgy maps like the truly horrid Sword Base, the slowing-down of pace and extra gunfight randomness that bloom added, the face that they nerfed all the Covenant weapons after the beta, like seriously what was wrong with the Beta Focus Rifle and Repeater?) but fixed a lot of what was bad about Halo 3 by fixing melees (and then unfixing them with the title update,) returning to hitscan, and having a balanced starting weapon unlike the Halo 3 AR. And the campaign was the best after ODST's for me. And I will sorely, sorely miss Firefight in 4.

  • 06.07.2012 1:35 PM PDT

That OP was not what I was expecting.

  • 06.07.2012 1:36 PM PDT
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I understand nothing because my life is a conspiracy.

I'm glad, too, because now Bungie can go make better games.

Also, I happen to love Reach and am flustered by your opinion(s).

  • 06.07.2012 1:45 PM PDT

Though the morrow may be barren of promises, nothing shall forstall my return.

I guess some people just prefer to complain than sit down and enjoy a good game.

  • 06.07.2012 1:50 PM PDT

Show Faith/Defy Fate


Posted by: X Delta Xero X
>Makes one bad game
>Is a horrible developer

Logic. Frankly I'm glad Reach exists, it points out several CLEAR mistakes on where NOT to go with the gameplay, meaning 343i now knows what they should do and what they shouldn't.

Reach still sucks, but it's helping shape Halo's future by ensuring the same mistakes aren't made.

  • 06.07.2012 2:32 PM PDT

Yes let's ALL forget Halo 1-3.

Halo CE revolutionized the FPS genre on consoles.

Halo 2 was massive with online multiplayer.

Halo 3 was a the top of the charts for a while.

Halo 3: ODST had a great story and kept Halo 3's multiplayer going by giving everyone the maps.

Halo Reach wasn't terrible, just too different for some people's tastes.

But because of Reach, 343i knows where NOT to go with Halo 4. They know how to appease all the (multiplayer) fanboys now.

[Edited on 06.07.2012 2:37 PM PDT]

  • 06.07.2012 2:36 PM PDT

Bungie Please make Halo 4. Don't let anyone else make it!


Posted by: Spartan1995324
Yes let's ALL forget Halo 1-3.

Halo CE revolutionized the FPS genre on consoles.

Halo 2 was massive with online multiplayer.

Halo 3 was a the top of the charts for a while.

Halo 3: ODST had a great story and kept Halo 3's multiplayer going by giving everyone the maps.

Halo Reach wasn't terrible, just too different for some people's tastes.

But because of Reach, 343i knows where NOT to go with Halo 4. They know how to appease all the (multiplayer) fanboys now.


actually 343 doesn't know as you can see with the new information provided from E3. it's actually looking worse than reach.

  • 06.07.2012 3:16 PM PDT

I ♥ Bungie!

Halo CE, Halo 2, and Halo 3 were complete masterpieces. ODST was an allright game as well. Reach was meh. I think Bungie is great. I'm sure thier next game will be freakin awesome.

  • 06.07.2012 4:14 PM PDT


Posted by: jigsaw0

Posted by: Spartan1995324
Yes let's ALL forget Halo 1-3.

Halo CE revolutionized the FPS genre on consoles.

Halo 2 was massive with online multiplayer.

Halo 3 was a the top of the charts for a while.

Halo 3: ODST had a great story and kept Halo 3's multiplayer going by giving everyone the maps.

Halo Reach wasn't terrible, just too different for some people's tastes.

But because of Reach, 343i knows where NOT to go with Halo 4. They know how to appease all the (multiplayer) fanboys now.


actually 343 doesn't know as you can see with the new information provided from E3. it's actually looking worse than reach.
Well Halo needs to change to stay competitive in the market. If Halo 4 was a carbon copy of Halo 3 but with better graphics it would be just as guilty as COD is for no change.

  • 06.07.2012 5:41 PM PDT

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