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Subject: Am i the only one disappointed in Cortana's Halo 4 makeover?

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is it wrong to say that cortana's tits really stand out in Halo 3 and especially in Halo 4?

  • 06.16.2012 7:11 AM PDT

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anyways i am fine with the changes and i dont see why i should be dissapointed about the chages concidering that she always changes drastically every game. H1 to H2 was a big jump, H2 to H3 also was a big jump, H3 to H4 is no different to the other games. A BIG CHANGE

  • 06.16.2012 7:21 AM PDT

Me think's she looks Hot.

sorry links won't work for sum reason .

http://cdn.windows7themes.net/pics/cortana-is-back-in-halo-4-f emale-character.jpg

[Edited on 06.16.2012 9:54 AM PDT]

  • 06.16.2012 9:46 AM PDT

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Posted by: dilinator
E3 2006 cortana was hands down my favorite... it was a next gen version of halo 2's cortana.
Hear, hear!

She even looks more human than 343i managed to make her.

[Edited on 06.16.2012 10:13 AM PDT]

  • 06.16.2012 10:12 AM PDT

Posted by: bignasty21
Cortana is the main female character at this point, and from this point on, she'll probably be on lists with Lara Croft and Bayonetta, which isn't what Cortana is about.


For your lists about Lara Croft and Bayonetta, Cortana has already been on a few lists about sexy characters, and oddly sexiest characters if I remember right. Cortana has always been kinda sexy, but I agree with what the other guy was saying about the rampancy and stuff. She's obviously got a thing for John, and would probably change herself to look more appealing, MORE human to him. One of the stages of rampancy is jealousy after all.

  • 06.16.2012 10:23 AM PDT

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She looked by far the best in Halo 3.

  • 06.16.2012 10:37 AM PDT


Posted by: WildGIXER DAVE
Me think's she looks Hot.

sorry links won't work for sum reason .

http://cdn.windows7themes.net/pics/cortana-is-back-in-halo-4-f emale-character.jpg


Can someone get this link to work
when i highlight copy and past into a new heading ,and select the one from the list that ends 550x373 it works .

  • 06.16.2012 12:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

You need to do it like this:
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Remove the second l in the second URL.

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  • 06.16.2012 12:24 PM PDT
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I prefer her hair style and look in Halo 1.

  • 06.16.2012 12:48 PM PDT

"Where ere thou hast been, here or in yon world manifest? Canst thou tell what is, or what was, or what is to come? No thing shall last. Yet there are some things that will never change. History is written in blood, yet are battles really lost on the battlefield? Canst thou tell me where thou comest, and where thou goest, and what is, or what was, or what will be? For everything remains, AS IT NEVER WAS."

Does anyone have a picture from the actual game? That would do far better to illustrate her "Halo 4 make-over," not a piece of concept art.

  • 06.16.2012 1:31 PM PDT

I don't care how she looks, she's always annoyed the hell out of me in every game. She irritates me.

  • 06.16.2012 1:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: jack0fhearts
Does anyone have a picture from the actual game? That would do far better to illustrate her "Halo 4 make-over," not a piece of concept art.


Halo 4 Cortana

  • 06.16.2012 1:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cobravert
I just saw a green monkey nut shot a small tan lizard(?) in a gunny sack.

In canon, an AI's appearance has always been determined by themselves. I've never had a problem with them changing how she looks, because it's easily explained-Cortana changed herself. It's the changes to things that can't be so easily explained that bug me, like the new Grunts.

  • 06.16.2012 1:55 PM PDT

Does anyone have lotion?
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Is mayonnaise a lotion?

She's gross. She looks like a desperate attempt to make her good-looking, but an epic fail.

  • 06.16.2012 1:59 PM PDT

"Where ere thou hast been, here or in yon world manifest? Canst thou tell what is, or what was, or what is to come? No thing shall last. Yet there are some things that will never change. History is written in blood, yet are battles really lost on the battlefield? Canst thou tell me where thou comest, and where thou goest, and what is, or what was, or what will be? For everything remains, AS IT NEVER WAS."

Posted by: chubbz
It's the changes to things that can't be so easily explained that bug me, like the new Grunts.

Because all members of a species (particularly an alien species,) absolutely must look the same, right?

Seriously, though, consider it like the Jackal/Skirmisher = Kig Yar concept. These are just "Southern Hemisphere" Unggoy.

  • 06.16.2012 3:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

I said earlier that Cortana was in the uncanny valley. Maybe it was intentional on 343's part. Cortana is in rampancy which is when an AI wants to be human but knows it can never happen. The uncanny valley is when something acts human-like but is subtlety off and inhuman. Maybe they are using the uncanny valley to illustrate her descent into rampancy.

  • 06.16.2012 4:02 PM PDT

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Personally I quite like the new look Cortana, if anything its the only believable makeover in H4 that could be justified by lore. I am much more concerned by the weird makeovers of the Elites and Grunts and even the Master Chief's Mk VI (which I actually like by the way).

It's hard to take a sci-fi seriously when the aesthetic is something in constant flux, it would be like the Millennium Falcon changing in every Star Wars film without reason and us viewers being expected to just roll with it. I understand that H4 is sort of a reboot by 343i but I just don't understand why they felt it merited one. A jump forward in time in the Halo universe helps justify new weapons and factions but it doesn't justify the Chief completely changing or Grunts changing their physiology.

Personally for me the biggest disappointment is the Warthog. Beforehand it has been a trusty and beautifully designed vehicle that looked like a human design but with futuristic suspension linkages underneath (the wheel arms) but for some reason 343i felt it needed redesigning so that the suspension has been replaced by double-wishbone suspension instead. Double-wishbone suspension was designed in the 1930s, and it just looks unoriginal and dull compared to the wheel arms of the classic Warthog.

  • 06.16.2012 4:29 PM PDT
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I hate how her face now pops up on my screen whenever she talks. GET BACK IN MY HEAD!

  • 06.16.2012 5:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: flamedude

It's hard to take a sci-fi seriously when the aesthetic is something in constant flux, it would be like the Millennium Falcon changing in every Star Wars film without reason and us viewers being expected to just roll with it.

Exactly!
But just because games change/improve their graphics, it's suddenly ok, and understandable.. It's like theres some kind of consensus that if you have more polygonz, it's ok to redesign/reimagine stuff, instead of just trying to match the original concept art. The entire H:Anniversary is a good example.

Side note: I dread the day someone decides to remake something like MDK..
"look guys, this game hardly has any complex geometry, we can't sell something that's this simple; people wont be impressed by the sparse environments, lets redesign the entire game!"
Instead of just laying all power on surfaces, lighting, and effects. -__-

[Edited on 06.17.2012 5:09 AM PDT]

  • 06.17.2012 4:57 AM PDT
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I can't really judge until the game, and thus the reason for her appearance, is out. If she gets overtly -blam!-ised for the sake of sales, then blegh. But if she's desperately altering her appearance to be try and be archetypely humanoid (ie, overtly -blam!-ised) because of rampancy, then that would make sense and be acceptable in the game's fiction/character. Or maybe some other reason.

  • 06.17.2012 5:50 AM PDT

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Posted by: the real Janaka

Haven't they added a HUD element where people/things Chief talks to are shown?

Briefly we see Cortana do it... at the start of the demo... that is about it. It's hopefully... not like Halo Wars, where they pop up every time they talk...

  • 06.17.2012 6:24 AM PDT

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Posted by: flamedude
It's hard to take a sci-fi seriously when the aesthetic is something in constant flux, it would be like the Millennium Falcon changing in every Star Wars film without reason and us viewers being expected to just roll with it.

Exactly!
But just because games change/improve their graphics, it's suddenly ok, and understandable.. It's like theres some kind of consensus that if you have more polygonz, it's ok to redesign/reimagine stuff, instead of just trying to match the original concept art. The entire H:Anniversary is a good example.

Side note: I dread the day someone decides to remake something like MDK..
"look guys, this game hardly has any complex geometry, we can't sell something that's this simple; people wont be impressed by the sparse environments, lets redesign the entire game!"
Instead of just laying all power on surfaces, lighting, and effects. -__-


As if this is anything new...

At all...

  • 06.17.2012 6:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: the real Janaka
Posted by: flamedude
It's hard to take a sci-fi seriously when the aesthetic is something in constant flux, it would be like the Millennium Falcon changing in every Star Wars film without reason and us viewers being expected to just roll with it.

Exactly!
But just because games change/improve their graphics, it's suddenly ok, and understandable.. It's like theres some kind of consensus that if you have more polygonz, it's ok to redesign/reimagine stuff, instead of just trying to match the original concept art. The entire H:Anniversary is a good example.

Side note: I dread the day someone decides to remake something like MDK..
"look guys, this game hardly has any complex geometry, we can't sell something that's this simple; people wont be impressed by the sparse environments, lets redesign the entire game!"
Instead of just laying all power on surfaces, lighting, and effects. -__-


As if this is anything new...

At all...
So, what's your point? Just cause it's always been that way doesn't mean I like it. Nor that one should, or that it's good for the industry.

If you've designed something, stick with it, if people don't like how the IP looks, they don't like it. No need to alienate those who did. (although sometimes it might be necessary to tweak the design into working with improved graphics, but thats a consequence, not a will, and as long as that's admitted, it's fine).

[Edited on 06.17.2012 7:22 AM PDT]

  • 06.17.2012 6:58 AM PDT

I find Cortana's new appearance not just very different but quite repulsive, I do not like the black hair and lips.
It's almost the same feeling I had when I saw Captain Keys in Halo: Reach, they were two different people.

  • 06.17.2012 7:36 AM PDT
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I just saw a green monkey nut shot a small tan lizard(?) in a gunny sack.


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Posted by: chubbz
It's the changes to things that can't be so easily explained that bug me, like the new Grunts.

Because all members of a species (particularly an alien species,) absolutely must look the same, right?

Seriously, though, consider it like the Jackal/Skirmisher = Kig Yar concept. These are just "Southern Hemisphere" Unggoy.


That's all well and good, but my point is this: we don't care about aesthetic changes that are harder to explain, but people are complaining about something that can be explained away in a few sentences. It's illogical.

  • 06.17.2012 9:20 AM PDT