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Subject: Elite Lifespan

How long is an Elite's natural life-expectancy? During war obviously it'll be lower, but the Arbiter (Thel 'Vadam) is 67 in 2552. I assume, therefore, they live longer than humans, as he's still in pretty good shape. But how much longer?

  • 06.14.2012 10:02 AM PDT

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Well over 100, atleast.

  • 06.14.2012 10:57 AM PDT

Reading this gave me some decent guessing information. I found it moderately useful for this topic.

  • 06.14.2012 11:05 AM PDT

What a waste....

Remember, however, that the Arbiter was a Fleetmaster--this may imply that he was less physically powerful than other Elites, as the way rank systems are generally structured, high age=more chance for promotion=higher rank. The Arbiter, as a Fleetmaster, would do his best to stay in shape, but still I think the system would be constructed so that the strongest troops actually go into battle.

  • 06.14.2012 6:14 PM PDT

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If the Arbiter is 67 then I would think average life would be at least 130-150.

  • 06.14.2012 6:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: Nocbl2
Remember, however, that the Arbiter was a Fleetmaster--this may imply that he was less physically powerful than other Elites, as the way rank systems are generally structured, high age=more chance for promotion=higher rank. The Arbiter, as a Fleetmaster, would do his best to stay in shape, but still I think the system would be constructed so that the strongest troops actually go into battle.


No, just no. Both Jiralhanae and Sangheili promotion systems rely on the individual getting as much kills as possible in order to raise through ranks. That in mind, Thel most likely has slaughtered thousands or tens of thousands of enemies himself to achieve his rank of Supreme Commander.

Edit: Not Fleet Master, Supreme Commander.

[Edited on 06.14.2012 7:15 PM PDT]

  • 06.14.2012 7:11 PM PDT

Adding to what's been said, they also have two hearts, so plug that -blam!- in and 130ish sounds about right.

[Edited on 06.14.2012 9:46 PM PDT]

  • 06.14.2012 9:45 PM PDT

What a waste....


Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: Nocbl2
Remember, however, that the Arbiter was a Fleetmaster--this may imply that he was less physically powerful than other Elites, as the way rank systems are generally structured, high age=more chance for promotion=higher rank. The Arbiter, as a Fleetmaster, would do his best to stay in shape, but still I think the system would be constructed so that the strongest troops actually go into battle.


No, just no. Both Jiralhanae and Sangheili promotion systems rely on the individual getting as much kills as possible in order to raise through ranks. That in mind, Thel most likely has slaughtered thousands or tens of thousands of enemies himself to achieve his rank of Supreme Commander.

Edit: Not Fleet Master, Supreme Commander.
Ah. I knew it wasn't Fleet Master... I couldn't remember the name :P

But where does it say that one rises through the ranks by getting kills? I'm pretty sure that might be how it goes for Brutes, but for the 'leets I thought it was more like humans? Kind of a way to show how they were more advanced than us.

In any case, I'd say they probably live a tad longer than humans, maybe 130-140.

  • 06.14.2012 11:04 PM PDT
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Unlike human rank Elite rank is based on strength.

When the Arbiter was elected head Kaidon other Kaidons sent assassins to kill him. They got owned and the Kaidon responsible for the assassins was executed.

  • 06.15.2012 3:47 AM PDT

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I would say at least 90

  • 06.15.2012 5:40 AM PDT

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130ish maybe. Thel is probably middle aged. It's possible to remain fit into your 50s, and that goes double if the planets you spend time on have less gravity than your homeworld. For the rank of Fleet Master, an Elite would likely have to have the majority of his career already behind him, as he would have to have proven himself first, which likely requires a long time for that sort of rank to be built up to. (For the same reason that you don't see many 25 year old 4 star generals)

  • 06.15.2012 12:06 PM PDT


Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Adding to what's been said, they also have two hearts, so plug that -blam!- in and 130ish sounds about right.


Good point.

  • 06.15.2012 2:40 PM PDT
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Posted by: goldhawk
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I think they live a few decades longer than man (but almost every species in Sci-fi does anyway) and 130 sounds about right. I think a lifespan was mentioned somewhere but I can't remember where.

  • 06.15.2012 7:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: anton1792
130ish maybe. Thel is probably middle aged. It's possible to remain fit into your 50s, and that goes double if the planets you spend time on have less gravity than your homeworld. For the rank of Fleet Master, an Elite would likely have to have the majority of his career already behind him, as he would have to have proven himself first, which likely requires a long time for that sort of rank to be built up to. (For the same reason that you don't see many 25 year old 4 star generals)


Many? I think you don't mean any at all. The military doesn't even let that happen. But yeah, this makes a lot of sense.

  • 06.16.2012 10:43 PM PDT