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Subject: Battle Rifle and Pistol important differences
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Mainly, now that halo 2 PC is here, and watching some videos of Halo 2 on the xbox has made me realize some important differences from the pistol and the Battle Rifle, that I wanted to let everyone know about for the upcoming Halo 2 PC game.

One of the most importance differences is the 3 round burst. If used right the 3 round burst is extremely deadly, probably more deadly than any other weapon. First of all, you still have to remember that its a assult weapon. It has 12 shots of 3 round bursts which make 36 rounds.

Basicly if your skilled enough, with only 1 Battle Rifle burst you can get a kill, at mid-close range you just need to aim high and accurate you'll get the kill. Now with a pistol you need to use 3 extremely well aimed shots to kill, wasting 1 fourth of your ammo, while one 3 round burst of the BR will only waste one twelve of your ammo.

Second while zoomed, you have a total of 36 single shot rounds 3 times the amount of the pistol, they may not do the same damage, however with 36 single rounds, you and your teammates can supress the other team in multiplayer with fire lasting for a long period of time and get a nice amount of kills, while your teammate gets the flag and runs off.

Third, in singleplayer in comparsion to the pistol, a single burst of fire will kill a grunt instead of 3 rounds by the pistol, this is a major difference, 3 rounds out of 12 compared to 3 rounds out of 36. This shows that the battle rifle has a similar killing power to the pistol.

Four, when used along with frag nades, you can get quite a few kills, for example on a map, if 3 people are fairly grouped together, you can take down all their shields pretty low to nothing, making a single 3 round burst kill when you hit them in the body.With the rate of the BR you can easily score a triple kill there in just 1-2 seconds.


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  • 06.10.2006 12:37 AM PDT
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Now im not expert at halo2, but I have played several splitscreen matches with friends and beaten campaign. The BR(lets call it the BR ok)does much less damage, so i would take maybe 3 bursts at the minimun to kill a person. Also if you use a frag, your shield goes down by about 1/3. Underpowered i know, but im just saying that it takes, depending where you hit someone, either 1-4 bursts to kill a guy without shields. Add the overpowered shields (im my opinion) and your getting 3-8 bursts to take out a person. So, im basically saying that it still will take about a third of your clip to take out a person.

  • 06.10.2006 4:50 AM PDT
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The pistol takes three shots to the head to take someone down. The BR takes four bursts to the head to take someone down.

And it takes one shot with the pistol to take a grunt down, assuming you're aiming at its head, much like the BR.

You've got it all wrong. The Battle Rifle may shoot three bullets per pull of the trigger, but one burst is not the equivalent of one pistol shot. Also, the battle rifle chews through ammo faster. It takes four shots to take someone down, if you're good enough to aim at their head the whole while, while the pistol only takes three.

You're right about the battle rifle being similar to the pistol, but for the wrong reasons. Even though in Halo 2 it takes more shots to the head to take someone down more than the pistol does, it's quite easy to do it because of H2's severe auto-aim, while Combat Evolved's pistol takes skill.

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  • 06.10.2006 6:06 AM PDT

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*hands Kim a crowbar*
Here you will need this to help you get your foot out of the back of your throat, looks llike its in there pretty deep. And what is that on your face? Egg?! *hands Kim a washcloth*

Actually, when you play the final game, it three round bursts even when zoomed in.

  • 06.10.2006 10:32 AM PDT
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you can kill someone faster with the halo 1 pistol than you can the halo 2 BR.

Seriously, play some halo 1, the pistol is amazing. I don't see why reloading is an issue, as the halo 1 pistol, with 12 rounds i believe, can kill with 2-3 shots, meaning you can kill 4-6 people before you have to reload.

  • 06.10.2006 12:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: Anton P Nym
who says you have to be an ace to have fun?

Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
Stupid parents let their stupid children play games that are rated M when they should be playing Big Birds Spelling Adventures

Posted by: Kira Onime
Also the AR is actually good in CQB now and no longer a glorified baseball bat.

I would like to point something out: only one of the three shots in the three shot burst actually hits the person. If all of them hit the person then I would get three head shots for each kill with it.

  • 06.10.2006 12:06 PM PDT
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AJ6627, you can't kill the same person 3 times, you headshot them once, they die, thats it.

Pet0sh, as for you, have you even played Halo, saying that the pistol can kill with 2-3 shots, is harder to do than it sounds, typically, a skilled person can get a kill withen 5-6 shots, while incredible god-like players can get it in 3. I do play halo PC, and next time read my post throughly, since I said that I was just comparing the two of them becasue Halo 2 PC is here, not that I play Halo 2.

MasterKim, also I knew for months and years already that people compare the battle rifle to the pistol like the Smg's to the AR, and also most people do consider 1 burst like one pistol shot, due to ingame performance of the weapon.

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  • 06.10.2006 12:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: Anton P Nym
who says you have to be an ace to have fun?

Posted by: TUI_Obi_Wan
Stupid parents let their stupid children play games that are rated M when they should be playing Big Birds Spelling Adventures

Posted by: Kira Onime
Also the AR is actually good in CQB now and no longer a glorified baseball bat.

Still, only one of the shots in each burst hits. In my opinion, it should count each headshot as a headshot; not just the kill shot.

  • 06.10.2006 12:32 PM PDT
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Aj6627, if they do that it wouldn't even make sense, if the person is dead then how do they headshot someone who has already been headshotted and is dead. If that happen then what if like 3 people shoot him at the same time in the head, would they all get a kill or would the guardians get the kill, lol.

  • 06.10.2006 12:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: Pet0sh
you can kill someone faster with the halo 1 pistol than you can the halo 2 BR.

Seriously, play some halo 1, the pistol is amazing. I don't see why reloading is an issue, as the halo 1 pistol, with 12 rounds i believe, can kill with 2-3 shots, meaning you can kill 4-6 people before you have to reload.

Please, go and play H1PC before you make statements like this.. it is impossible to kill someone with the pistol in 2 shots, 3 is the minimum... 2 in the head to lower the shields, one in the head to take the kill.

Anyone saying otherwise is either hacking or spitting out crap out of his mouth.

  • 06.10.2006 3:04 PM PDT
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Despite what Ice just said, that is absolutely false. The minimum amount of shots required to kill with the pistol is three, however, only the third bullet is required to hit the head. The first two bullets may be placed anywhere on the body, just as long as the finishing shot is placed on the skull.

  • 06.10.2006 3:08 PM PDT
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May I ask a question? Where did you find info about Halo 2 for PC? Ive been dying wanting it for PC, I never was good with the xBox controller and didnt feel up to buying a whole new system for one game, well a good game, AN AWESOME GAME, ok so yeah, where did you find that out? Can you tell me what it said about when its coming out? Thanks

  • 06.10.2006 5:36 PM PDT
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And it's your connection that's slower than turtle sex.

In........................................................Out .

Me + BR + Halo 2 campaign on even heroic= Me having to use a plasma rifle/pistol about 7 minutes later.

Oh yeah, for the person who asked, H2PC is coming out next year I think.

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  • 06.11.2006 2:37 AM PDT
Subject: LONG LIFE TO THE H PISTOL !!
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Yeh! Pistol i miss you now in suky xbox sniff... But i remember you and i still use you in Combat Evolved, so if in H2 PC you are not in. I will whine everymatch just for remember the other guys there was a great weapon left behind for a $%$#%bified game with locked-on rocketst....what? omg !!

  • 06.11.2006 8:03 AM PDT
Subject: Battle Rifle and Pistol important differences
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May I ask a question? Where did you find info about Halo 2 for PC? Ive been dying wanting it for PC, I never was good with the xBox controller and didnt feel up to buying a whole new system for one game, well a good game, AN AWESOME GAME, ok so yeah, where did you find that out? Can you tell me what it said about when its coming out? Thanks
Dude, seriously. That's quite an ignorant question. Go Google.

Btw, I'm going to pwn all of you in H2PC.

  • 06.11.2006 8:46 AM PDT
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Problaly since you already know all the maps, weapons, and dual wielding combinations.

  • 06.11.2006 8:54 AM PDT
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people having experience on the xbox was the reason that bungie used to counter the idea of cross console multiplayer.

It's not like there won't be other xbox live people playing on, but swapping to a totally different control system isn't a snap.

that being said, halo 2 isn't halo 1, and the battle rifle isn't a pistol, especially since there is dual wielding, making a mid range weapon like the battle rifle far less useful for close range like the pistol of halo one used to be.

  • 06.11.2006 10:33 AM PDT
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the BR is a little more fair than the pistol.
It chews through ammo quicker, takes at least 1 extra burst to kill, and, in my opinion, it's much easier to aim with a mouse than the Xbox controller, so your pistol beadshots are easier.

  • 06.11.2006 10:41 AM PDT
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Posted by: stare3
Me + BR + Halo 2 campaign on even heroic= Me having to use a plasma rifle/pistol about 7 minutes later.

Oh yeah, for the person who asked, H2PC is coming out next year I think.

it sucks that it's only for vista i don wanna have to buy a whole new application to play halo 2

  • 06.11.2006 10:44 AM PDT
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ok you're right I guess, I found it here text http://www.eastluna.com/console/details.php?id=1546 I just wish I knew when it was coming out I WANT IT FOR PC SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BAD

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  • 06.11.2006 11:01 AM PDT
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MasterKim, well see who's better after I get like 3 weeks of playing time in Halo 2 PC in, however I'm not gonna get it like 2 weeks after, probably in terms of months..... :(

besides, even if he knows the weapons, map layouts and everything else, it will be hard to move from the console controls and layout to the keyboard and pc layout. So it's like ehs going to have a handicap for some time.

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