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Who here would love to see the needler made into a rifle? I think it's easily admittable that the power of the needler from halo ce to halo 2 was severely reduce. If they had kept it a two-handed weapon that had the same firepower as holding two needlers, then it would really be quite acceptable, perhaps.

And even then it would be nice to increase the follow ability and up the speed of the needles just a tad. At that point, it would be just as good of a weapon as the battle rifle, while not being aything like it. And it'd still be awesome, what with pink explosions flying everywhere!

What's really great is when you get a double kill from killing one person with needles and the person next to them dying from splash explosion damage from that kill.

  • 06.10.2006 11:12 AM PDT
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Okay while, I do agree that the needler needles need to be sped up and need better tracking... DON'T TURN IT INTO A RIFLE! If we turn all the dual-weilding weapons into rifles, then there would be NO DUAL-WIELDING!

  • 06.10.2006 11:18 AM PDT

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Actually, the needler is a great medium-long range weapon.. It's terrible in close quarters though.. Try using it on Beaver Creek, it's a great weapon.

  • 06.10.2006 11:20 AM PDT

What we really need is a Gauss Rifle! In my opinion I like the needler the way it is. I think it just needs to be stronger, in Halo 2 it takes like an entire clip to kill an enemy, what the hell is that?!

  • 06.10.2006 11:22 AM PDT
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That's not what he said, you meathead. He was only talking about changing the needler into a rifle.

I like the basic premise. However, I would change you concept to a single shot weapon that fired more powerful (and MUCH quicker) needles that didn't home (or only started to home at a certain distance), that cause an explosion after 5 needles. To balance it out, there would be no or very little damage bonus to headshots. It could be explained by saying that the needler in the first two games (and books) were more primitive versions, and the needler rifle is a recent technological breakthrough. The first example could be introduced on the Forerunner ship in an armory or a Weapons-Development lab, with the latter have various prototypes and parts scattered around.

  • 06.10.2006 11:24 AM PDT
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Actually, I think it a better point-blank weapon ever since Bungie did away with the splash damage of the explosions. I use it alot in campaign, don't know about multiplayer, though.

I think thots ebough of all the "Needler Rifles, Needle Grenades, Needle-shot, etc" kind of ideas. The needlers fine the way it is.

  • 06.10.2006 11:26 AM PDT
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Actually, I think it a better point-blank weapon ever since Bungie did away with the splash damage of the explosions. I use it alot in campaign, don't know about multiplayer, though.

I think thots ebough of all the "Needler Rifles, Needle Grenades, Needle-shot, etc" kind of ideas. The needlers fine the way it is.


...except that it's useless anywhere but single-player, and that's because the meathead AI doesn't understand the concepts of "weaving" and "avoiding the sharp pink flying thingies."

  • 06.10.2006 11:28 AM PDT
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i think it would make a cool shotie. one whol clip in a single shot. BANG!........BANG!

  • 06.10.2006 11:30 AM PDT
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i think changing the needler into a rifle is a great idea... although i think it should be more on the lines of more of like a mini needler gun... up the speed of the bullets and thats it... i think that would be a really cool weapon because i love the concept of exploding needles but the needler just sux imo.

and needle nades would be sick too

  • 06.10.2006 11:33 AM PDT