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Subject: How old Cortana Really is... how this will effect Halo 4!

I often wondered that after seeing Halo 4 on TV at E3. 343 believes Cortana is 8 years old at the beginning of halo 4. In a way they are right, in the timeline of the video games she "could be" 7 or 8 by the time of Halo 4, but in reality Cortana is at least 10 years old by the end of the Human/Covenant war in 2553. She is most likely 11 by that time. Below is some information that could hurt and be useful to many things halo including Halo 4.

In the novel Halo: The Fall of Reach, chapter 24 to be specific, Cortana is first introduced talking with Dr. Halsey after deactivating another A.I. present in the room. The deactivated A.I. was deactivated because of security protocol. When Cortana was introduced The Year was 2542. This would, in fact, make cortana at the very least 10 years old at the end of the war in 2553.

In the E3 trailer for Halo 4 Cortana was 8 years old and that would leave a giant plot-hole in the story of halo. I believe that because of the release of Halo Reach this caused the Writers of Halo 4 to reduce Cortana's real age so that Halo Reach wouldn't seem as much of a knockoff to the Halo series.

I also believe that at least 4 years have passed sense the events of halo 3. If that is true then Cortana would have to be at least 14 years old and there would be a good chance she was already 15.

Below is some information crucial to the story of halo 4 and what this could mean to the halo series.

Here is a list of active spartan 2's

1. spartan-010: Naomi
2. spartan-058: Linda (the very same that was on the Pillar of Autumn)
3. spartan-087: Kelly
4. spartan-101: Victor
5. spartan-104: Frederic

Unknown/unnamed spartans

6. Black-one
7. Black-two
8. Black-three

MIA spartans (currently aboard the Spirit of Fire)

9. spartan-042: Douglas
10. spartan-092: Jarome
11. spartan-130: Alice

Retired spartans

12. spartan-062: Maria

There are a few spartan 2's undergoing rehabilitation but the rest are unaccounted for or KIA.

Now for the best part, in Halo 4's multiplayer you will be playing spartan 4's as any halo fan should know. I found some interesting information pertaining to the spartan 4's training. The spartan 4's are in fact adult volunteers. Even more interesting is that I read that Linda aka spartan-058 was offered to train the spartan 4's herself. However it is not confirmed that she accepted to train the spartan 4's and that any other spartans (including spartan 3's) were even offered to help train the spartan 4's.

If Linda or any other spartan took the offer we may see them in halo 4. But before i go there is something important about the spartan 4's training that must be addressed and that is they are on the infinity and the likelihood that spartan 2's and 3's will make an appearance in halo 4 is very likely and we should anticipate it. and so you know the whole multiplayer experience is based off of the training of the spartan 4's "on the infinity ship."

I will look into halo and the spartans to find more evidence that could impact halo. Im very eager to find more about what happened to Jun from halo reach because he wasn't mentioned in the Novel ghosts of onyx with Dr. Halsey so far that i know but i plan to look further into his career as a spartan.

  • 06.16.2012 10:28 AM PDT

This is in the wrong Forum. Maybe even the wrong site. Maybe you should check out the Halo 4 Forum on http://halo.xbox.com.

Good read, even though it's in the wrong place. :)

  • 06.16.2012 10:52 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Wrong. Cortana was created in 2549, that is the official canonical date which she was created. That's what it says in Halsey's journal, that's what it says in the novels, that's when 343i have said.

Frankie has said that 343i have absolutely no plans to continue Jun's story, and frankly why anyone would want such a horrid character to return is beyond me. He's in canonical limbo, but for all intents and purposes for the story, he's dead.

  • 06.16.2012 12:12 PM PDT
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old enough to -blam!- master chief

  • 06.16.2012 2:12 PM PDT

Hey idiot did I say I wanted him to return? No I said I wanted to learn more about him and no Cortana was not created in 2549. where are your references at least I gave mine. At least I gave a specific chapter to a novel you just said novels.

Also Halo reach is a knockoff of the series so Dr. Halsey's journal is a knockoff as well. She had nothing to do with the spartan 3 project or training whatsoever.

Really its pathetic how your arguing against me with the same references but without specific details on where to find the information.

  • 06.16.2012 11:42 PM PDT

thx i guess il just post it there in the 343 forum. might as well.

[Edited on 06.16.2012 11:58 PM PDT]

  • 06.16.2012 11:45 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: Coach Syberion
Hey idiot did I say I wanted him to return? No I said I wanted to learn more about him and no Cortana was not created in 2549. where are your references at least I gave mine. At least I gave a specific chapter to a novel you just said novels.


Why don't you sit down and cool off? I never said you wanted him to return. Read properly:

frankly why anyone would want such a horrid character to return is beyond me.

-_-

Also Halo reach is a knockoff of the series so Dr. Halsey's journal is a knockoff as well. She had nothing to do with the spartan 3 project or training whatsoever.

1) I never said or even so much as insinuated that Halsey had anything to do with the S-III Project, once again you're just putting words in my mouth. Refrain from being a bollocks like that.

2) Halsey's journal is established canon, Frankie cites it as canonical numerous times for instance in this video with Miranda Keyes being Halsey's daughter (04:50).

Really its pathetic how your arguing against me with the same references but without specific details on where to find the information.

It's funny because what's more pathetic than anything is how you took anything said against you as a personal affront. This suggests you need to grow up, let's do a quick Google search about this all, shall we? I'll even guide you through it!

Firstly, let's Google "Cortana 2549" - the year I say, and the established year in canon she's said to be created.

Well would you just look at all those bolded words! Here's a few I'll pick yout:

Cortana. Biographical information. Began service. November 7, 2549.

This year can be figured out by taking the year Cortana was made in (2549/11/07) and adding seven years.

2549 November 7: Cortana is created from Dr. Catherine Halsey's flash-cloned brain.


Now for the icing on the cake, from 343i themselves. The official RED FLAG document. So what does it say about Cortana here?

CORTANA
SERVICE NUMBER: CTN 0452-9
ACTIVATION DATE: November 7, 2549
BRANCH: UNSC Navy, Office of Naval Intelligence
RANK: Smart AI Construct
~ page 2

That's funny, it seems to directly tie into the date in Halsey's journal and the date repeated over and over.

Also, I know you're saying that whole thing about "began service", well here's your definitive answer. It says "ACTIVATION DATE".

Now, let's Google the date you say she was created in. "Cortana 2542"

And what's the first thing to come up? 'List of inconsistencies in Halo'... Let's look into that, shall we? Oh my, well here's something you should check:

On page 282, after chapter 31, when the Covenant first enter Epsilon Erandi System, it states that the year is 2542, when it should be 2552. It continues this right up until the end of the book. This was obviously a typo.

Well now, I seem to remember the massive controversy over the following years that The Fall of Reach had numerous canonical inconsistencies with the series - such as humanity first encountering Elites in 2552 when we know that's not true. '2542' was a misprint, Cortana was created by Halsey flash cloning her brain in 2549 - I say it, everyone else is saying it and, most importantly, 343i is saying it. You're wrong.

EDIT: Note that I deplore having to use the Halo wikis as sources, yet if you have half a brain you can recognise that what they say is reflected directly by what 343i has said.

[Edited on 06.17.2012 3:35 AM PDT]

  • 06.17.2012 3:32 AM PDT
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why are you two fighting over cortana? it's okay i heard she's into dp's

  • 06.18.2012 11:34 PM PDT