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Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: ninjakenzen
Therefore there is this next level of pressure to do better for each other because they really care about each other. Something SPARTANs don't really feel for other Units. This was due to the circumstance and bonds they had growing up.
S-IVs don't have that and they never will. That's the tragedy of the Spartan program. Not that the S-IVs don't care about each other. It's because they're there own people. Individuals who get pulled together. SPARTANS were always brothers and sisters. S-IVS are not.
I think I prefer the idea of the Spartan-IVs over the II's. The II's having this cold and distant view of the rest of Humanity seemed to make them entirely apart from it. Questions arose, such as did they fight for Humanity's survival, or was it just another order? Did they care for the suffering that other people were facing, or was it just so long as their own little group of IIs survived, everything was okay? In John claiming (Or at least thinking of) himself as being separate from Humanity in Palace Hotel, it calls into question whether they are the best of Humanity, because they can't belong to or represent anything from a group they feel no attachment to. (Or the author of that story screwed up, which is a very distinct possibility)
The disconnection from the rest of Humanity and having this "bubble" from the rest of society makes them stronger as soldiers. They are tools for humanity survival. They're not supposed to care about suffering, but it doesn't mean they can't.
Fighting for what they lost makes their resolve stronger much like any soldier.
SPARTAN-IIs in particular could take it more personally. As they grew up and shared a similar unique experience with other S-IIs.
John is right to believe that he is separate. Going through the things he's been through. Trained with the sole purpose since childhood to be the very best humanity has to offer. Makes a very distinct lack of familiarity with Marines who's lives had social aspect in a conventional society.
It's like being Batman. You can't be normal if you're Batman. Trying to make Batman normal makes him redundant as a superhero as that would mean everyone has the ability to do what it takes to go the next level with nothing to lose or in some interpretations, everything to lose.
Being the best makes you different. If you prefer everybody being the best then good for you. But a more realistic grasp would be that you would have to sacrifice luxuries such as a "normal life" to get close.
It's in Johns best interest to keep the Marines alive. Beyond the cold robot exterior. He is ultimately human.
Not caring about fame and trying to fit in social situations is a virtue in these situations, it keeps their priority straight as soldiers. S-IVs might run into these issues. The Spartan-II project have been publicized but the S-IIIs top secret. People think SPARTANS are legendary sons of -blam!-s that can't be killed.
Having just about any or every military top dog being in the same spotlight as this is just tarnishing reputation. Not that they aren't equal but because they're not really SPARTANS.
I dunno, I just think being a SPARTAN is more than just a MJOLNIR/SPI Suit and some argumentations.
For example, Buck.
"Truly, if he was any better he'd be a Spartan."
Oh wait, what dya know? He could be a S-IV now therefore a SPARTAN.
I still wouldn't put him in the same page as John, Fred, Kurt etc. He's got his own version and perspective of the chain of command, respect, emotions, etc that is so different from the S-IIs and S-IIIs. It just furthers sets them apart.
[Edited on 07.27.2012 9:29 PM PDT]