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Subject: A list of people next to each poll option.

PEANUT-BUTTER SLAP!

Posted by: dibbs089
If you're expressing your opinion via a vote (poll) you should be able to justify and defend it.

I'm not saying people should be going after one another,*you kind of are* but if SKenAlt252 is voting for a particular user it would probably be a good idea to question his motivations.
If you want to justify your position, respond to the topic.

  • 06.17.2012 3:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: reptile1892
Posted by: dibbs089
If you're expressing your opinion via a vote (poll) you should be able to justify and defend it.

I'm not saying people should be going after one another,*you kind of are* but if SKenAlt252 is voting for a particular user it would probably be a good idea to question his motivations.
If you want to justify your position, respond to the topic.
What if I just use as many alt-votes as I would've used characters? Same thing, right?

  • 06.17.2012 3:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: Eric Duffy
No.

That would break the privacy of the voter.

  • 06.17.2012 4:02 PM PDT

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While I see how it would be useful, It isn't in dire need now is it?

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Posted by: Leprechaun209
While I see how it would be useful, It isn't in dire need now is it?
Name one feature on this website that we direly need.

  • 06.17.2012 4:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: Agustus
I lol'd at the absurd miscommunication that occurs whenever dibbs post something. Perhaps his brain is so highly evolved that he can no longer clearly communicate with lesser life forms, even among his own species.

Posted by: reptile1892
Posted by: dibbs089
If you're expressing your opinion via a vote (poll) you should be able to justify and defend it.

I'm not saying people should be going after one another,*you kind of are* but if SKenAlt252 is voting for a particular user it would probably be a good idea to question his motivations.
If you want to justify your position, respond to the topic.
I don't see how responding to the topic justifies my position. Do I support a feature that will never be implemented or not? Doesn't particular matter, and I don't care one way or the other.

Attacking one another and asking for someone to clarify their position (most often through strengthening their reasons for supporting / opposing it) are two entirely different things. I can see how the nuance would be confused by some on this website though.

  • 06.17.2012 4:26 PM PDT
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No. The whole point of voting is that it is to remain anonymous, so having a user be able to view what other people have voted could possibly sway one's voting, and may lead to other users being judged based on what they voted.

  • 06.17.2012 5:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: Agustus
I lol'd at the absurd miscommunication that occurs whenever dibbs post something. Perhaps his brain is so highly evolved that he can no longer clearly communicate with lesser life forms, even among his own species.

Posted by: UphillMercury
No. The whole point of voting is that it is to remain anonymous, so having a user be able to view what other people have voted could possibly sway one's voting, and may lead to other users being judged based on what they voted.
I already judge people (on this website) based on what they say which is a large degree more intimate and revealing than which option they chose on a poll.

The point of voting is to reach a consensus in a presumably more inclusive way than other options. Anonymity is a relatively new aspect to voting and is actually problematic in less informed groups (this being an internet forum I'd say it qualifies). Regardless, by no means is it mandatory.

  • 06.17.2012 6:01 PM PDT

Voting has two purposes then you freaking nitpickers- to quickly assess results and to let people have their say without actually saying anything or having to worry about it.

This breaks the latter. Am I avidly against it? No. But I don't think there's any reason, good or bad, for it.

  • 06.17.2012 6:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: dibbs089
Regardless, by no means is it mandatory.
It doesn't matter if it's mandatory. It matters if the community as a whole wants it to be like that. It's not mandatory for ranking systems to be associate with any sort of color coordination, and yet they have them.

  • 06.17.2012 6:12 PM PDT

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No mainly for two reasons

1. Privacy

2. If someone is to check who voted, and sees -popular person- has voted for that option. They may copy that person. This makes voting pointless.

[Edited on 06.18.2012 6:27 AM PDT]

  • 06.17.2012 6:14 PM PDT

Spread the love...

Since some of you don't like this, here's an idea:

When voting in polls, there is an option to vote anonymously. If you select that option, people won't know what you voted for and it would go something like "People who voted for this option: User1, User2, Use3, and 4 Anonymous users."

  • 06.17.2012 6:15 PM PDT

PEANUT-BUTTER SLAP!

Posted by: dibbs089
I don't see how responding to the topic justifies my position.
That part's up to you, with you words and your keyboard and your fingers.
Posted by: dibbs089
Attacking one another and asking for someone to clarify their position (most often through strengthening their reasons for supporting / opposing it) are two entirely different things. I can see how the nuance would be confused by some on this website though.
It's one thing to ask someone who responded with "I'm against that sort of thing" for a point of clarification, but it's another to look at a group of people and ask one to do the same; then it just becomes calling someone out.

  • 06.17.2012 6:44 PM PDT

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Oh yeah, since somebody does not believe what YOU believe; that makes us vapid...
I cannot grasp that what you call "Something happened to nothing, and that nothing became something, and it was smaller than than a period."

Posted by: Eric Duffy
No.

That would break the privacy of the voter.
...Which would lead to harassment, among other things.

  • 06.17.2012 6:45 PM PDT

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I like choosing the one with the least amount of votes.

  • 06.17.2012 6:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: blindx1
No mainly for two reasons

1. Privacy

2. If someone is to check who voted, and sees -famous person- has voted for that option. They may copy that person. This makes voting pointless.
1. Why does everyone think that you have privacy on this website?
2. I really hope you're joking, I really do.

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Posted by: Eric Duffy
No.

That would break the privacy of the voter.
...Which would lead to harassment, among other things.
I doubt that, but even if it does, mods are here for a reason.

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Maybe you could reply, explaining who you voted for? That way you can let other people see who you voted for. And if you don't want anyone to know, you could simply not say anything.



If only this was an option.

[Edited on 06.17.2012 7:18 PM PDT]

  • 06.17.2012 7:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: Agustus
I lol'd at the absurd miscommunication that occurs whenever dibbs post something. Perhaps his brain is so highly evolved that he can no longer clearly communicate with lesser life forms, even among his own species.

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Posted by: dibbs089
Regardless, by no means is it mandatory.
It doesn't matter if it's mandatory. It matters if the community as a whole wants it to be like that. It's not mandatory for ranking systems to be associate with any sort of color coordination, and yet they have them.
A few problems...

The "community as a whole" is an idealistic concept which requires uniformity. That will never happen here; there are as many different opinions as there are users. Secondly, operating under the assumption that the "community as a whole" (which I imagine you mean the majority of the community which would be just as hard to assess) wanted something; when has what the community wanted ever been taken into account when implementing features? It has always been the webteam weighing the options and deciding what is best.

My comment regarding whether it was mandatory or not was to show that the notion of anonymity and the notion of voting are synonymous - a concept that is quite frequent in a majority of discourses having to do with political systems and political philosophy, but not so much on these forums.

Posted by: reptile1892
Posted by: dibbs089
I don't see how responding to the topic justifies my position.
That part's up to you, with you words and your keyboard and your fingers.
The topic dealt which whether or not implementation was a good idea. I was addressing the fallacious idea that voting and anonymity were synonymous. Addressing the topic in the OP would not help to justify my position since my position had nothing to do with answering the OP.

Posted by: reptile1892
Posted by: dibbs089
Attacking one another and asking for someone to clarify their position (most often through strengthening their reasons for supporting / opposing it) are two entirely different things. I can see how the nuance would be confused by some on this website though.
It's one thing to ask someone who responded with "I'm against that sort of thing" for a point of clarification, but it's another to look at a group of people and ask one to do the same; then it just becomes calling someone out.
You're using a lot of different descriptions that aren't necessarily the same "attacking other users", "calling someone out", "going after one another", and "clarifying a position" are all different things and we are likely to have different definitions of them. To clarify, what we are doing is what I imagine would happen with a non-anonymous poll. You selected what I wrote (out of all of the other posts here) and decided to respond to it and have me clarify. I don't think that was "attacking me" or "calling me out". That was me putting my opinion out there and you asking for more information. The same scenario should be put to people who vote. Opinions should not just be accepted because they are yours; you should at least be able to explain why you hold them. Presumably people wouldn't be targeted at random, but for a reason. Even if that targeting is malicious in intent, no one is forcing you to respond to people on an internet forum.

  • 06.17.2012 7:37 PM PDT

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Bad idea. Then we get harrassing pm's from people who don't agree with our vote. Not cool.

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  • 06.17.2012 7:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: Delta 15t
Bad idea. Then we get harrassing pm's from people who don't agree with our vote. Not cool.

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Then you ignore them, and if it gets out of hand, the mods will do what they need to do.

  • 06.17.2012 7:47 PM PDT

What's up with all the -blam!-ing negativity?
Stop it.

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Posted by: Leprechaun209
While I see how it would be useful, It isn't in dire need now is it?
Name one feature on this website that we direly need.
A sarcasm button.

  • 06.18.2012 2:00 AM PDT
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It doesn't matter what the intention about the lack of names was for.

I would prefer for it to stay anonymous, otherwise I would be less inclined to vote because I don't want people to know what my opinion is unless I express.

  • 06.18.2012 2:08 AM PDT

Posted by: Eric Duffy
Because it doesn't show your name when you vote.

/duh
That doesn't mean the site doesn't track who votes. Hence, no privacy. So just because the user-specific results aren't currently displayed doesn't mean they couldn't or shouldn't. That's probably just a fault or consequence of the forum software.


Posted by: Delta 15t
Bad idea. Then we get harrassing pm's from people who don't agree with our vote. Not cool.

~Delta
The same thing could happen when you make a post. In fact I'd say it's far more likely to occur when making a post when compared to a hypothetical list of users who have voted for a particular option because of the exposure both would have.

  • 06.18.2012 2:53 AM PDT

Does anyone even read these?

Posted by: Delta 15t
Bad idea. Then we get harrassing pm's from people who don't agree with our vote. Not cool.

~Delta
Are you being serious right now?

  • 06.18.2012 6:17 AM PDT

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