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Subject: What is Crimson anyway?

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I originaly made an account on 07.27.2007 but I wanted to link my GT and made this account. Don't forget your passwords!

So I have no idea what Crimson actualy is. Can anyone provide some source of information on it?

  • 06.17.2012 3:09 PM PDT
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behold! Crimson Steam Pirates!
BUNGiE's highly anticipated and critically acclaimed release since Halo: Combat Evolved

it's a turn-based strategy game taking place in the Caribbean Sea

Thomas Blood crossed the Atlantic in chains, an enemy of the English Crown condemned by Queen Victoria herself. But his destiny was as a free man, a Captain of a Steam-powered Frigate, a hero sailing the Crimson Seas... and a Pirate.

  • 06.17.2012 4:06 PM PDT
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Here you go ...

Basically Crimson is a failed bungie idea .. yes bungie themselves abandoned the trademark rather than spend another $300 to renew the registration. Guess getting only a single mobile app title in over 12 months does not inspire confidence.

There are a lot of opinions as to why it failed, none of them too favorable - but scroll through what is left of the forum and form your own. The "moderators" tend to feel it is fun/fair to bait posts into challenging their remarks ... and then -blam- your account under some payback ruling.
Go figure ...

  • 06.18.2012 5:19 AM PDT

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Posted by: SeparikakkuI think you are confusing Crimson with Bungie Aerospace. Crimson Steam Pirates is a game for mobile devices created by Harebrained Schemes. This game was published by a division of Bungie called Bungie Aerospace. At present, Crimson is the only game they have published. While there have been vague hints that more is coming from them, right now we know nothing.

  • 06.18.2012 5:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: Old Papa Rich
I think you are confusing Crimson with Bungie Aerospace. Crimson Steam Pirates is a game for mobile devices created by Harebrained Schemes. This game was published by a division of Bungie called Bungie Aerospace. At present, Crimson is the only game they have published. While there have been vague hints that more is coming from them, right now we know nothing.
Confused - dont think so.
But if we can take your official reply as a public statement of indemnity?

Lets look at the description of the trademark as lodged by bungie themselves;
"Computer game software downloadable from a global computer network; Computer game software for use on mobile and cellular phones; Downloadable computer game software via a global computer network and wireless devices".

Does not sound like Steam Pirates ... or perhaps bungie got confused as well?
There is a separate trademark for Aerospace (also abandoned, spotting a trend?)

Plus a quick look at the dates (and other press release) should help clear the confusion.
Crimson registered May 4, 2011.
Steam Pirates released Sep 1, 2011.


As for "vague hints", I hope you are not linking those hints on future Harebrained Scheme support. They have released a number of titles since CSP ... but NOT with bungie, wonder why?, what does that say about Harebrained Scheme opinion thus far?
Strike Fleet Omega on iOS & Android, also Shadowrun.
Few other side projects, but NONE with bungie. Add that to the fact that bungie has abandoned their own trademarks ... well will let everyone else do the sums.

  • 06.19.2012 5:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: Old Papa Rich
While there have been vague hints that more is coming from them
Posted by: Separikakku
As for "vague hints", I hope you are not linking those hints on future Harebrained Scheme support.
aha! it's either Old Papa Rich or Separikakku who keeps giving 'HINTS'

[Edited on 06.19.2012 10:35 PM PDT]

  • 06.19.2012 10:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: path1k
Posted by: Old Papa Rich
While there have been vague hints that more is coming from them
Posted by: Separikakku
As for "vague hints", I hope you are not linking those hints on future Harebrained Scheme support.
aha! it's either Old Papa Rich or Separikakku who keeps giving 'HINTS'



No 'HINTS' been given here, the Old Papa is stating the truth;

Posted by: Old Papa Rich
right now we know nothing.

Why he feels the need to confess his lack of knowledge, or how the [obvious to the rest of us] fact helps the OP ... who would know. Perhaps that would be a 'HINT' worth seeking.

Its a little like hinting we wont win Euro 2012.
(perfect win record, in 6 hours another - and unbeaten in qualifying - do we need hint?)

  • 06.22.2012 5:55 AM PDT
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Posted by: Separikakku
perfect win record, in 6 hours
now if it was 7 hours...

  • 06.22.2012 9:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: path1k
Posted by: Separikakku
perfect win record, in 6 hours
now if it was 7 hours...

"7 hours" ... lol - you think we needed to finish the match :)
After the GFC suckling we actually own Greece anyway.

  • 06.25.2012 4:49 AM PDT
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Posted by: Separikakku
Posted by: path1k
Posted by: Separikakku
perfect win record, in 6 hours
now if it was 7 hours...

"7 hours" ... lol - you think we needed to finish the match :)
After the GFC suckling we actually own Greece anyway.

Sad Sep ... and with very sore head.

Lost out to Spain ... given we also put a major down payment on them as well I am going to look at it as given our #1 team the week off. (man, my head hurts, even after 12 hours sleep)

Oh yeah ... back OT ... crimson is the colour of my hemorrhaging brain.

  • 07.01.2012 4:53 AM PDT

Posted by: path1k
Posted by: Old Papa Rich
While there have been vague hints that more is coming from them
Posted by: Separikakku
As for "vague hints", I hope you are not linking those hints on future Harebrained Scheme support.
aha! it's either Old Papa Rich or Separikakku who keeps giving 'HINTS'

Just when you thought all the hints had been killed off/locked down.

'What is Crimson'??
Kinda funny ... if bungie could give some hints perhaps people would be more in the know. How did the do such a crap job of 'publisher' that people dont know what the games about ... and on their own site.

lol ... the world needs more hints ... or perhaps more THAN hints.
Perhaps bungie skipped that section in the 'Dummies guide to publishing'.

  • 07.01.2012 6:39 AM PDT
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Posted by: Oh GodLike One
How did the do such a crap job of 'publisher'
hint for Oh GodLike One, something like unsatisfactory job would me more friendly then crap job. don't wan't to hurt BUNGiE's feelings

  • 07.01.2012 7:36 PM PDT

Posted by: path1k
Posted by: Oh GodLike One
How did the do such a crap job of 'publisher'
hint for Oh GodLike One, something like unsatisfactory job would me more friendly then crap job. don't wan't to hurt BUNGiE's feelings


Try to sum up a reply.
By public definition (second form), crap is;
1. To fail to keep a commitment or promise
2. To fail to function properly
3. To leave

How many of these apply to bungies record, well;
1. To fail to keep a commitment or promise:
Promise was to propel independent developers into the stratosphere. Last time I checked the 'S' in developers meant plural. Even the one (and only) developer hardly got above ground level. I read recently that Hairbrained have since release other titles, but avoided bungie (mmm, wonder why?)

2. To fail to function properly
Open this one up to the community (basically TOO MANY options to cover by myself). In what way did bungie function as a publisher?

3. To leave
What would the Abandoned status refer too ... other than bungie have left the game?
(wonder if they gave themselves a DNF penalty? - lol)

Even without it being an accepted definition ... sure bungie could have added it to the "blam-register". Plus gotta play by bungies rules, dont they set the tone by blocking/locking threads without notice, telling gamers that "bans are not open to negotiation, and appeal will result in a tougher ban"?

  • 07.02.2012 4:51 AM PDT
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Posted by: Oh GodLike One
I read recently that Hairbrained have since release other titles, but avoided bungie (mmm, wonder why?)
perhaps it was because of BUNGiE's complete disregard for helpful hints

how do they expect us to help captain cold kid if they lock his thread before we were able to help him?

[Edited on 07.03.2012 8:22 PM PDT]

  • 07.03.2012 8:21 PM PDT

Posted by: path1k
perhaps it was because of BUNGiE's complete disregard for helpful hints

how do they expect us to help captain cold kid if they lock his thread before we were able to help him?

Not sure there was ever going to be any helping captain cold kid ... suspect he got dealt a lethal blow from a few bungie helpers.

Plus I dont think help is what this forum is about.

  • 07.04.2012 5:03 AM PDT

Cop lights, flash lights
Spot lights, strobe lights
Street lights
Fast life, drug life
Thug life, rock life
Every night

Crimson is a form of Red.

And a game that Bungie did some things with that it's not proud of.

  • 07.04.2012 8:44 AM PDT
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Posted by: Oh GodLike One
Plus I dont think help is what this forum is about.
i tried to help those users in need of assistance in getting the blue flaming helmet, but the mods kept locking their threads

[Edited on 07.05.2012 4:15 AM PDT]

  • 07.05.2012 1:32 AM PDT
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Posted by: ArBit3R 818
And a game that Bungie did some things with that it's not proud of.

Forget the game, it is the things they did to (the one and only) developer that was truly nasty.

How is it that bungie claims to help new developers ... and yet they can only get the one, and even that one goes elsewhere for following games.

Wonder if Weisman and Parsons are still friends after this?

  • 07.05.2012 4:53 AM PDT

Posted by: path1k
Posted by: Oh GodLike One
Plus I dont think help is what this forum is about.
i tried to help those users in need of assistance in getting the blue flaming helmet, but the mods kept locking their threads

Suspect thats how the mod get bananas delivered to their cages.
Use of advanced intellect applied to behavioral imprinting ... press 'lock' get reward. What else would keep them here?

  • 07.05.2012 5:15 AM PDT
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Posted by: Oh GodLike One
Posted by: path1k
Posted by: Oh GodLike One
Plus I dont think help is what this forum is about.
i tried to help those users in need of assistance in getting the blue flaming helmet, but the mods kept locking their threads

Suspect thats how the mod get bananas delivered to their cages.
Use of advanced intellect applied to behavioral imprinting ... press 'lock' get reward. What else would keep them here?

Suspect the mod-monkeys have been undergoing PR training (aka told to behave). The number of locked threads and bans have been down ... shame actually as it did create some interest.

  • 07.12.2012 5:37 AM PDT

Posted by: Old Papa Rich
I think you are confusing Crimson with Bungie Aerospace. Crimson Steam Pirates is a game for mobile devices created by Harebrained Schemes. This game was published by a division of Bungie called Bungie Aerospace. At present, Crimson is the only game they have published. While there have been vague hints that more is coming from them, right now we know nothing.

Its been more than a month ... anything to confirm other than the original "vague hints"??

I recall getting a PM once, about posting unsupported statements (which I then updated to contain external references)... mmm, just cant recall who that would have been from - lol

  • 07.23.2012 5:12 AM PDT

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isnt steam pirates just a game version of steam punk?

  • 07.29.2012 7:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: outcast97
isnt steam pirates just a game version of steam punk?

There has been more than a few claims that Bungie copied the game ... came across this one on another post.

Guess when a game has such a low unit price enforceing any copyright becomes difficult (damages being based on unit sale pricing) ... also guessing that bungie would further cloud the issue a claim the role of Publisher (ok, not a great defense, but enough to slow an outcome) ... and if that didnt work run Apple as the distributor.

  • 07.30.2012 5:39 AM PDT

Posted by: Separikakku
Posted by: Old Papa Rich
I think you are confusing Crimson with Bungie Aerospace. Crimson Steam Pirates is a game for mobile devices created by Harebrained Schemes. This game was published by a division of Bungie called Bungie Aerospace. At present, Crimson is the only game they have published. While there have been vague hints that more is coming from them, right now we know nothing.
Confused - dont think so.
But if we can take your official reply as a public statement of indemnity?

Lets look at the description of the trademark as lodged by bungie themselves;

Win ... classic gold medal win.

Missed this the first time around ... keep on topic - "What is Crimson anyway" - yes, it IS a trademark, link kinda spells it out, no confusion here.

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