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Why wouldn't countries like the United States just expand on NASA (Nationa Areonomics and Space Agency) and the Navy? The different colonies could have been like American Colobies and British colonies etc.

  • 06.10.2006 5:51 PM PDT

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The United Nations is the biggest orginization right now. NASA is non military unlike the UN. UNSC is United Nations Space Command. It's a joint effort to whom ever memebership is granted.

  • 06.10.2006 5:54 PM PDT
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Thank you Mike Spike,

Ditto you're...an idiot looking for petty revenge from a previous thread. Im not trying to...prove anything you...friggin...retard

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  • 06.10.2006 5:56 PM PDT
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And to ansewer the the the topic, the US is would not lower themselves into joint cooperation with 3rd world countries. Nationalism is a strong ideal the people would like to maintain. A United Earth is unplausible.

  • 06.10.2006 5:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: MAC 720
And to ansewer the the the topic, the US is would not lower themselves into joint cooperation with 3rd world countries. Nationalism is a strong ideal the people would like to maintain. A United Earth is unplausible.



"Would not lower themselves"?! Nice to to that bigotry is well entrenched.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the UN have many third world countries within its ranks?

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Posted by: MAC 720
And to ansewer the the the topic, the US is would not lower themselves into joint cooperation with 3rd world countries. Nationalism is a strong ideal the people would like to maintain. A United Earth is unplausible.


Funny how they US is already in joint co-operation with third world contries. Nothing to do with nationalism, just a matter of earth-wide effort to prevent war. Not that many people see it that way, but that's what it is nonetheless. You may be thinking of NATO.

_EDIT FOOL!_

Yes, I'm busting out wikipedia... United Nations
191 nations as of 2006. Third world contries have to be included since there is only around 14 first and second world contries.

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  • 06.10.2006 6:01 PM PDT
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Yes...lower themseleves. No, im not racist i have alot of black friends (Xbox Live for instance). And while the US does associate itslef with 3rd world countries it isnt a unified country with them. The Halo Universe suggests that the whole world has been unified into one central government, the isnt plausible.

  • 06.10.2006 6:05 PM PDT

"People sleep peacefully in their beds because rough men stand ready to commit violence on their behalf." - George Orwell

For a start, it was the japanese that invented slipspace (Shaw Fujikawa Translight Engines) so it seems logical that nasa could only go colonising with the aid of other countries. Titanium is needed in vast quantities as all unsc vehicles are made from it (ships included). Africa and other 3rd world countries would be paid vast sums of money and would set up some sort of deal, as that part of the world is rich with ore and other raw materials needed for space flight on pillar of autumn sized ships.

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Posted by: MAC 720
The Halo Universe suggests that the whole world has been unified into one central government, the isnt plausible.


Whom said that? Look at what the UN is now. That's what it is in Halo. If we've all come to a single contry/group/nation/whatever... why the hell do the marines in the Halo Universe have accents!?

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Posted by: tail end charlie
For a start, it was the japanese that invented slipspace (Shaw Fujikawa Translight Engines) so it seems logical that nasa could only go colonising with the aid of other countries. Titanium is needed in vast quantities as all unsc vehicles are made from it (ships included). Africa and other 3rd world countries would be paid vast sums of money and would set up some sort of deal, as that part of the world is rich with ore and other raw materials needed for space flight on pillar of autumn sized ships.


The US created Nukes, England, France, Russia, Israel, etc, have them. Are we unified into one country...nope
The Germans created jets and many countries have them. Are we unified into one country...nope

  • 06.10.2006 6:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: MAC 720
Posted by: tail end charlie
For a start, it was the japanese that invented slipspace (Shaw Fujikawa Translight Engines) so it seems logical that nasa could only go colonising with the aid of other countries. Titanium is needed in vast quantities as all unsc vehicles are made from it (ships included). Africa and other 3rd world countries would be paid vast sums of money and would set up some sort of deal, as that part of the world is rich with ore and other raw materials needed for space flight on pillar of autumn sized ships.


The US created Nukes, England, France, Russia, Israel, etc, have them. Are we unified into one country...nope
The Germans created jets and many countries have them. Are we unified into one country...nope



...besides, the japanese invent everything, but the whole idea is that the US gets to take credit...and MAC 720 is right and wrong, it is almost impossible to unite the whole world, but a bunch of countries like USA, UK, France, Germany, Spain and other first world countries probs took over thw world at some point...forcing people to exist under one government....and when a superpowerful alien race is bent on the annihilation of you species, you tend to drop grudges and help each other out,,,

  • 06.10.2006 6:43 PM PDT
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The game is in the future...and most of the European countries are already on there way to being unified, with the introduction of a single currency(Euro) and Speech(English). Other nation's will follow suit. The U.S. is trying to convert to the Metric system from S.A.E. 1st class countries are starting to consolidate. I really think that a UNSC is possible and likely, just not soon.

  • 06.10.2006 6:50 PM PDT

meh........

So, what is the deal with Mike? I have seen him multiple threads and he is an ass on every one of them. Why does eveyone want to prove each other wrong? We ALL know NOTHING. Just converse with each other respectfully. Geeze.

  • 06.10.2006 6:51 PM PDT
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I have no idea of the background on the Halo universe, but we are talking over 240 years into the future... longer than the U.S. has been in exsistence. A lot could change.

Example - U.S. becomes more and more isolationist. Europe unifies and becomes an economic powerhouse. Russia gets its act together and joins Europes union. The U.S.'s economy lacks has it loses its manufacturing edge and then its intellectual edge. The European Union ends up making space economical first, becomes even stronger. The U.S. ends up in its 2nd Civil War as it enters a new Depression. Europe comes to its aid. In the end a new alliance is formed. To deal with the space colonies, the UNSC is formed, so that now one country, government or organization can run rough shod over any other.

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Posted by: MAC 720
Why wouldn't countries like the United States just expand on NASA (Nationa Areonomics and Space Agency) and the Navy? The different colonies could have been like American Colobies and British colonies etc.

Nasa isn't a military corporation. Also, ever heard of the International Space Station? Why bother to make it international if Nasa is that great? They aren't, help from other countries is still required.

Posted by: MAC 720
Nationalism is a strong ideal the people would like to maintain. A United Earth is unplausible.

Ever heard of globalization? You're thinking too one dimensional. It isn't a question of countries anymore. It's a question of planets. people will no longer want to have there own country, but a planet. I'm not sure where I read it, but a certain time before the covenant war, there was pretty much a "civil" war. Planets wanted to have more freedom. So to maintain a steady balance and peace the UNSC was born, the United Nations part was simply used as a symbolic name. The UNSC got control of the military to make sure no planet could wage war upon another. Eventually as the "power" of the UNSC grew and things settled down, the UNSC was stuck with a gigantic space fleet, which turned out handy versus the covenant later on.

Also, what makes you think that in 500 years the US is still in charge?

And to make a long answer short: it's a game, it's a story.

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Also, what makes you think that in 500 years the US is still in charge?

I had my date wrong. You are right. We are talking about almost TWICE the time the U.S. has existed. This is like saying in 1506 that the relationship of France and the Pope would always be the strongest politcal force in the world.

  • 06.10.2006 7:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: MAC 720
The US created Nukes, England, France, Russia, Israel, etc, have them. Are we unified into one country...nope
The Germans created jets and many countries have them. Are we unified into one country...nope


Actually the US pioneered Jets. They had them during World War 1(military project). They just didnt see that lagre of an advantage because they could not fit weapons to it. To be more accurate Germans pioneered the weapon systems for Jets.

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The best example of the UN inablity to get everyone to work together is the USA's Iraq war Gremany and other nations said no we won't help the USA speard democary and Britian and other nations said yes we will help the USA speard democary. The UN relies on the nations to say on a whole weather or not to do something. Basicly every nation needs to agree or the UN is powerless that is a huge problem for the world to be united. The generation that is in power now only care about weather or not it helps their pocket book not the well being of the human race. That will stop the world uniting because who will piss away large sums of money and power to help the world? The UN doesn't help Africa because surely they would have by now reacted to the Darfore (sp?) problem. Culture will be a huge massive problem because it will create problems an example is the roiting in France that was in cultural enclaves like Africa and Muslim ones. Fundametalists are a problem too because it's their way or off with your head no bargining. Regilion is a problem too Judisism(I know I misspelled that so don't get oftened Jewish people of the world) and Muslims have fought each other what makes you think their just going to stop. World peace is needed but all of these problems must be over comed if world peace is to be.

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  • 06.10.2006 7:36 PM PDT

Posted by: prophate
The United Nations is the biggest orginization right now. NASA is non military unlike the UN. UNSC is United Nations Space Command. It's a joint effort to whom ever memebership is granted.


I could understand your mistake. Technically the UN is military. They have a military force, "The guys in the blue helmets that say UN in big white letters". They just arent an agressive highly functionalling force. Mostly for "Peacekeeping" and "Self Defense"

  • 06.10.2006 7:42 PM PDT

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