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  • 06.23.2012 9:25 AM PDT

People say it out of politeness. It isn't a big deal.

  • 06.23.2012 9:27 AM PDT

It's to assure the moderators that they aren't deliberately trying to go against the rules and that while it's in a gray area, they believe it should still be allowed. In most cases.

  • 06.23.2012 9:31 AM PDT

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Posted by: burritosenior
It's to assure the moderators that they aren't deliberately trying to go against the rules and that while it's in a gray area, they believe it should still be allowed. In most cases.

  • 06.23.2012 9:32 AM PDT

Doesn't make a difference.

If a thread needs to be locked we don't need someone to tell us that. It's not a "get out of jail free card" either.

  • 06.23.2012 9:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: dazarobbo
Doesn't make a difference.

If a thread needs to be locked we don't need someone to tell us that. It's not a "get out of jail free card" either.
The rules weren't written by a lawyer, so they are obviously subject to interpretation. Be honest, would you ban someone for intentionally breaking the rules longer than someone who unintentionally break the rules?

  • 06.23.2012 9:42 AM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

Posted by: dazarobbo
Doesn't make a difference.

If a thread needs to be locked we don't need someone to tell us that. It's not a "get out of jail free card" either.


Agreed, just like someone posting a "NSFW" warning on a link to a shocking/gore video (even if it is a current event) that doesn't alter the fact that it is a violation of the membership agreement (and related documents).

If the post/thread is rule breaking, then it is getting locked.

The punishment is then a matter of determining the extent of the violation, the amount of malicious intent (or lack thereof) and balancing that against past offenses and history to come up with a response that I consider appropriate.

It's a system, but it is not a formula or a set of "if X then Y" rules. If it were (or ever could be) we ninja would have been replaced with a well-written script long ago.

  • 06.23.2012 9:42 AM PDT

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I always thought it was an attempt to absolve them of any forumsing sin they may have committed so that the masses don't flay them to within an inch of their life in the replies about off-topicness etc.

  • 06.23.2012 9:45 AM PDT

Posted by: dazarobbo
Doesn't make a difference.

If a thread needs to be locked we don't need someone to tell us that. It's not a "get out of jail free card" either.

What if we add a pretty to the please?

Posted by: King Dutchy
Be honest, would you ban someone for intentionally breaking the rules longer than someone who unintentionally break the rules?

Lenience is usually given to people who make honest mistakes. But if your intentionally a dick, well that just makes people want to hit you harder. In this case, a longer ban.

  • 06.23.2012 10:02 AM PDT

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Posted by: Synyster Ricz
Posted by: King Dutchy
Be honest, would you ban someone for intentionally breaking the rules longer than someone who unintentionally break the rules?
Lenience is usually given to people who make honest mistakes. But if your intentionally a dick, well that just makes people want to hit you harder. In this case, a longer ban.
That's the answer I expected.

[Edited on 06.23.2012 10:11 AM PDT]

  • 06.23.2012 10:09 AM PDT

"Better to ask and be directed than ignorant and banned."

  • 06.23.2012 10:11 AM PDT
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If a user is worried that they might be breaking a rule, they should double check the rules or ask a moderator.

  • 06.23.2012 10:15 AM PDT

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Posted by: Izak609
If a user is worried that they might be breaking a rule, they should double check the rules or ask a moderator.
What one moderator may find rule breaking, another moderator may not.

  • 06.23.2012 10:28 AM PDT
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I believe people think they can get away from a ban if they say that, but as mentoined above that doenst help their case.

  • 06.23.2012 4:10 PM PDT
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I hate it when people do it because it shows an obvious fear of the moderators which I don't think is healthy for the community.

  • 06.23.2012 4:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: Skibur
I hate it when people do it because it shows an obvious fear of the moderators which I don't think is healthy for the community.
I don't think it shows fear at all, but rather respect for the rules (which, in a case where this phrase would most likely be used, is a grey area).

  • 06.23.2012 4:15 PM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.


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Posted by: Skibur
I hate it when people do it because it shows an obvious fear of the moderators which I don't think is healthy for the community.
I don't think it shows fear at all, but rather respect for the rules (which, in a case where this phrase would most likely be used, is a grey area).

Except when I get appeals of "but I put in a warning" when they are banned/warned. As if admitting they knew that they were treading a thin line was a way to get out of any consequences for intentionally flirting and stepping onto the wrong side of that line.

  • 06.23.2012 4:23 PM PDT
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I'm gonna finish it. Just like Jigga did to the pyramid.

I think people (I know I would but I never have) do it if they are not certain if it is spam/not allowed rather than the OP knowing that it is against the rules i.e. posting a shock site link.

  • 06.23.2012 4:30 PM PDT
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I like it better when they put "I know this is against the rules but -blam!- it."


They know they are getting banned yet do it anyway....somehow this amuses me.

  • 06.23.2012 4:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: Kickimanjaro
Posted by: Skibur
I hate it when people do it because it shows an obvious fear of the moderators which I don't think is healthy for the community.
I don't think it shows fear at all, but rather respect for the rules (which, in a case where this phrase would most likely be used, is a grey area).

Except when I get appeals of "but I put in a warning" when they are banned/warned. As if admitting they knew that they were treading a thin line was a way to get out of any consequences for intentionally flirting and stepping onto the wrong side of that line.
Is that fear though? I see it more as either an abused line to try to get off without being punished or a legitimate way to bring light to the fact that they are unsure of the specific "legality" of what they are posting.

  • 06.23.2012 4:35 PM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.


Posted by: Kickimanjaro
Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: Kickimanjaro
Posted by: Skibur
I hate it when people do it because it shows an obvious fear of the moderators which I don't think is healthy for the community.
I don't think it shows fear at all, but rather respect for the rules (which, in a case where this phrase would most likely be used, is a grey area).

Except when I get appeals of "but I put in a warning" when they are banned/warned. As if admitting they knew that they were treading a thin line was a way to get out of any consequences for intentionally flirting and stepping onto the wrong side of that line.
Is that fear though? I see it more as either an abused line to try to get off without being punished or a legitimate way to bring light to the fact that they are unsure of the specific "legality" of what they are posting.

Anyone who feels "fear" of the ninja is (all posturing and silliness aside) misunderstanding our purpose and goal.

No one should fear us or fear the rules. What most people, especially adolescents fear is consequence. People want freedom, but don't want to pay up if/when they abuse those freedoms.

One look at how "freedom of speech" is explained to me via PM and I am convinced that it is consequences (or unfavorable outcomes) that people don't like, don't want, and sometimes fear. Not me.

  • 06.23.2012 4:38 PM PDT

Posted by: Recon Number 54

Posted by: Kickimanjaro
Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: Kickimanjaro
Posted by: Skibur
I hate it when people do it because it shows an obvious fear of the moderators which I don't think is healthy for the community.
I don't think it shows fear at all, but rather respect for the rules (which, in a case where this phrase would most likely be used, is a grey area).

Except when I get appeals of "but I put in a warning" when they are banned/warned. As if admitting they knew that they were treading a thin line was a way to get out of any consequences for intentionally flirting and stepping onto the wrong side of that line.
Is that fear though? I see it more as either an abused line to try to get off without being punished or a legitimate way to bring light to the fact that they are unsure of the specific "legality" of what they are posting.

Anyone who feels "fear" of the ninja is (all posturing and silliness aside) misunderstanding our purpose and goal.

No one should fear us or fear the rules. What most people, especially adolescents fear is consequence. People want freedom, but don't want to pay up if/when they abuse those freedoms.

One look at how "freedom of speech" is explained to me via PM and I am convinced that it is consequences (or unfavorable outcomes) that people don't like, don't want, and sometimes fear. Not me.
Right, freedom isn't a blank check you can do anything with...there are limitations and 99.9% of the time their very reasonable limitations.

  • 06.23.2012 5:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: Skibur
I hate it when people do it because it shows an obvious fear of the moderators which I don't think is healthy for the community.

  • 06.23.2012 5:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: dazarobbo
Doesn't make a difference.

If a thread needs to be locked we don't need someone to tell us that. It's not a "get out of jail free card" either.
This attitude right here is the problem with moderation in general on this site if you ask me.

  • 06.23.2012 5:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: Recon Number 54
I am convinced that it is consequences (or unfavorable outcomes) that people don't like, don't want, and sometimes fear. Not me.
Well duh.

No one is afraid of you, they're afraid of you banning them.

  • 06.23.2012 5:58 PM PDT

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