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Posted by: Gottalovec4
Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Because, Parangosky is an IDIOT. According to the data drops, her and her other admiral friend got mad when the army destroyed the Long Night of Solace, because they had NO IDEA ONI was going to try to capture it.
ONI kept everybody in the dark so their plan could continue as predicted, and it backfired heavily. And to sell the deception they had to keep the fleet there so the Covenant would take the bait.
About the quote, I never said it was word for word, and people who also read the reprints informed me of the change. Perhaps you've read it recently and can deny that, or anybody else with the reprint Fall of Reach. But I remember clearly being told some of Halsey's lines got changed, and the manner of the change directly hints toward Halo Reach events.
Edit: I highly doubt that was the ONLY change concerning battle of Reach.
As for Jun and Emile, as I like to think recently. If they didn't matter so much, then why not just remove them? Oh wait, if you just *yoink* them out of the story, gaps are there.
Humanity still lost. Unless you think you know, New Alexandria and the mission before it magically never happened. The book is good for the space version, the game the ground version. Unless you buy that the UNSC military stronghold of Reach DIDN'T MOBILIZE ANY GROUND FORCES UPON COVENANT ATTACKING.
Seriously, they didn't mobilize any forces at all. UNSC command, and the primary armory were overrun within 2 hours, by a severly depleted Covenant landing force. (IIRC, Thousands of dropships got turned into hundreds, yet all these top priority UNSC structures got overwhelmed within hours?)
When did the Covenant regroup? Figure out what they had? Figure out where the hell they had to go? It's like the UNSC placed bright neon signs over their more important buildings, and had all the guards go party. UNSC aircraft could've ripped into those dropships and depleted the numbers further, yet UNSC air support is never once mentioned bar a single bombing run. UNSC ground forces are likewise, rarely mentioned. Already built defenses are non-existent, AA isn't around, and the Super MAC generator bunkers are described as being "The permacrete (Ithink) is still fully drying". Aka, wasn't even there until they went "Oh-blam!- rush to make a bunker!" Given the fact the UNSC regularly STOMPED the covenant on the ground, it's facepalm worthy.
1. No, you REALLY can yank Emile and Jun out of the story. What did they accomplish/ The levels you have them as squadmates: Nightfall and PoA, they don't do jack.
2. In the BOOK Reach fell in a day in a half. It took the Army WEEKS and MONTHS to moblilize the US Army and Marine Corps in Desert Storm and even in Iraqi Freedom. You can't just MAGICALLY outfit thousands of Marines, vehicles, and aircraft in 20 minutes.
3. It's kind of hard to set up a command structure when thousands of 8 foot tall aliens are literally IN your command structure. Its like trying to set up a fire brigade to put out a fire across the state when a volcano has suddenly appeared in the firestation.
4. Yeah, thats how it is in the US Military too dude. there aren't exactly M1 ABRAMS parked in front of the Pentagon. The UNSC shares US military docterine of off shore bases to protect the mainland with Reach being the mainland. Its just like why the US Navy didn't happen to have all it's fighters scrambled on Dec 7th 1941.
Reach was pooop. FoR was gooood.
You can't compare a country with an entire planet (Which by the way is the military hub of humanity). Apparently, it is more important to the UNSC to just dish out their ODSTS, anti-tank mines and Skyhawks with four 50mm cannons against a single spartan than to defend the planet from hundreds of dropships (which to be honest is not enough troopers to really overrun Reach if we do some math).
Bungie even released data about how much manpower Reach had (during 2550)
Military Power: Reach (excerpt from CAA FACTBOOK [l.update 1.5.2550])
Total Available Military Manpower: 385,421,100
Total Land Assets: 58,430
Total Naval Assets: 1,209 (T); 75 (X)
Total Air Assets: 11,050
Serviceable Airports: 1,246
Defense Budget: cR. 38,287,000,000 [2548]
While Earth is rightly seen as the UNSC's commercial, political, and cultural center; Reach is undeniably the hub of its military power.
The Eridani fleet is a full strength Carrier Group with the supercarrier UNSC Trafalgar at its core. The planet itself has a semi mobile array of 20 Orbital Defense Platforms, and they are in turn defended by multiple wings of single ships and tactical multi-role craft.
All of that, overrun in a couple of hours? Are you kidding me? Let's not forget that the Covenant already knew where ALL the important places were located the moment they jumped into the system, which without Reach's explanation makes them out to be mystic aliens whom are omnipotent.
The fact is, The Fall of Reach's invasion was pretty unrealistic to be honest.