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Posted by: paulmarv
The possessor of the canonical artifact is told that he is in "possession of the most complete and accurate account that anyone has been able to assemble of SPECWAR/GroupTHREE/NOBLE's actions". The whole canonical artifact is that of a data artifact. Therefore, any discrepancy between the events manifested in the "Halo Reach" artifact and the narrative "Halo: The Fall of Reach" is an illustration of what ONI either erroneously believes, or intently propagandizes. Think of Halo Reach as a parable and Halo: The Fall of Reach as the real deal.
Please read my post here (the entire thread is actually of great pertinence to this discussion).
Ah, no, not at all, not in the least. Regardless of what the letter(s) included with the Limited/Legendary Editions of Reach say, it's completely and one hundred percent canon, as is TFoR. Neither one is the "real deal", as you put it, at the expense of the other, they are two sides to the same coin, half of the same whole. And to be quite honest, they're both much better together anyway, on their own they each have their own short-comings that the other fills in (though I think TFoR on it's own has a lot more short-comings when it comes to the battle). If you ask me the only reason that Bungie made Reach out to be an artifact from within the Halo universe was so that 343i had as much wiggle room in regards to the game as they needed...and since 343i hasn't changed one bit of Reach and done their best to mesh it with TFoR, then it is perfectly safe to say that there is as much non-canon about Reach as there is to any of the other Halo games. Other canon materials have started mentioning Reach, such as the new book Glasslands (which is also canon, unfortunately, no matter how much I, or any other person despises it).
Just because it happens to be that simple this time doesn't mean that is always is. I vehemently disagree with people who say that the true canon is whatever the business authorities say it is. The true Halo canon is an immutable identity that is higher than any of us, or any business entity - Bungie or 343. Nobody dictates what it is, rather, the people in position (such as Bungie) have revealed parts of it to their best ability in the form of a video game. If you disagree, I can point to places where I have written long and extensive proofs of the statement I have just made, but I will only point you to them because discussion of them here would border of off-topicness because, as I said before, the answer to this whole thread is really as simple as that one quote from the Halo Reach box above.
Again with the spewing of your nonsensical views as to what constitutes canon? Seriously? So you honestly believe that the writers are not in control of their own story at all and have absolutely no say over what is or is not a valid part of the universe they've created? That is possibly the dumbest thing I have ever heard, and quite offensive to boot. The writers and creators of a story are the ONLY ones who decide what is or is not canon, not the fans, not some arbitrary and abstract rule you or anyone else makes up...nobody except those crafting the story. I've seen your other posts on this matter of canon...and none of them contain any kind of proof at all, just you basically claiming that your idea is right and the only one that can define what is or is not canon.
I'm a writer, so I know all about crafting stories and whole universes from scratch and welding together all these different concepts and ideas to form one neat and cohesive story. Do you have any idea how offensive and utterly ridiculous it sounds with you claiming that I have no active control over what is or is not true for what I've created? It's just downright insane!
Anyways, as for the original OP and the whole point of this thread. Yes, Reach is absolutely canon, people can try to deny it all they like, but both Bungie and 343i treat and regard the game as canon, so they don't even have a leg to stand on. Unless otherwise stated (such as the episode "Odd One Out" in Halo Legends) to be so every piece of Halo media released is a part of the Halo canon.