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Posted by: im the next halo
Yeah but you're missing the point here. Previous programs have trained the children from young age and so forth till now and they've been facing groups larger than the IV's haven't faced and would die trying to attack. These are IV's. They don't possess perfect bodies, perfect minds and haven't faced all the threats yet. Who knows? Half this program could be wiped out like the III's. The II's and III's were raised at young age and brought to physical perfection, even more with the augmentations. III's augmentations were 100% success because of the increase in medical study and discoveries for biomedical research. It's like deadliest warrior here, but I'm talking consistent giberish here. My main point is they aren't on par with most of the previous programs. They can't beat MC. He's an MCPON and has seen much battle, he's a natural leader who is on par with every other SPARTAN. He also runs around with an advanced AI giving him enhanced fighting chances. These IV's are like pawns on chess. MC is like the king. He knows all moves. Same thing goes with Kelly who is still the greatest sniper out there, Kurt who has an ability to detect danger, like a sixth sense, more like an ambush. Frederic whose basically like a second MC. I can go on, but I just don't like these new SPARTANs because it kills the purpose and the orginality of ORION/SPARTAN project(s) anyway.
Yes, previous programs did train children from a young age, and, as a result, they became the best soldiers they could be. As for taking on larger groups, that could be due partly to the fact that S-IIs had MJOLNIR, which is shielded. In all of the Halo books and games, any marine or ODST does not last long while getting shot at. Who could blame them, considering the fact that they are getting hit will a ball of ionized gas thousands of degrees Celsius, held together only by a magnetic field? The shields allowed the S-IIs to take greater risks, thus allowing them to take down larger groups of enemies and be more effective on the battlefield.
While I can see that the S-IVs haven't seen the type of action normally seen by previous generations, they have still seen a lot of action, and they are still highly experienced. I fail to see how this would be any hindrance to them. Additionally, though I don't think the S-IVs are going to be decimated like the majority of S-IIIs, as they are being issued better equipment; specifically MJOLNIR. The S-IIIs weren't issued MJOLNIR because one suit costs as much as a starship, and the S-IIIs were deemed expendable. The S-IIs and S-IIIs were raised from a young age to be highly effective soldiers, but, considering the fact that the S-IVs are comprised of former special forces operatives, I highly doubt that they are inexperienced. I'm sure that previous generations of Spartans are better with execution of their training, simply because that's the only thing they've ever done.
As for the augmentations, while the medical advances did allow for a 100% survival rate, the fact that no invasive surgery was required was also a big contributing factor. I could list all of the procedures required for the S-II augmentations, but, in order to save space, I highly recommend you refresh yourself with the procedures and Project CHRYSANTHEMUM.
As for your opinion on their overall inferiority, consider the overall picture: they are highly experienced soldiers, augmented (presumably) to be on par with an S-III, given superior training equivalent to what a Spartan would get, and outfitted with MJOLNIR. The reason why Fred, Kelly, and John were so amazing is because they have lived and breathed war all of their lives; they can sense danger a mile off, and know how to react to it. I'm sure that, if the S-IIIs were given that same opportunity, they would be the exact same way. I'm sure that, in time (in order to get used to their augmentations and MJOLNIR) that the S-IVs will be the exact same way.
Finally, the purpose of ORION was to create highly effective soldiers with new equipment, biomedical procedures, and training method with adult volunteers. If anything, the S-IV program succeeded where ORION fell short.
Will every soldier become an S-IV? No. It's still an elite group; probably the equivalent of a marine being selected to join the ODSTs. Are they still Spartans? Yes. They have been given the training, equipment, and augmentations, haven't they? Do we truly know how effective they are in combat at this very moment in time? No. My whole argument is based upon reasoning and canon, but realistically, all we have is reasoning and canon at the moment, don't we?