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Subject: The Forerunner/Didact are enemies in Halo 4?

Dinkleberg..... >:(

I'm just wondering how it makes any sense, seeing as everything we've been told about them in the past has been alluded to their goodness. I'm all for twists but a 180 degree turn doesn't seem logical. Thoughts?

  • 06.26.2012 6:55 AM PDT

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We're fighting Prometheans, not Forerunners.

  • 06.26.2012 7:00 AM PDT

Dinkleberg..... >:(

but aren't prometheans forerunner soldiers?

  • 06.26.2012 7:10 AM PDT
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They are defense AIs created to protect Requiem. I think they just attack anything that arrives on the planet uninvited.

  • 06.26.2012 7:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: Teagg
They are defense AIs created to protect Requiem. I think they just attack anything that arrives on the planet uninvited.
They were built to protect Forerunner installations from the Flood. They weren't designed to combat an intelligent species.

  • 06.26.2012 7:28 AM PDT
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Oh.. I did not know that. If that's the case, I'm sure we'll get an explanation as to why they are attacking Master Chief in the game.

  • 06.26.2012 7:53 AM PDT

Dinkleberg..... >:(

I thought of a theory. Considering AI can become rampant and attack their masters in this universe, perhaps the antagonist is another AI like Bias who betrayed the Didact and killed all the remaining forerunner on the planet if there were any. Kind of like a Terminator/Mass Effect scenario. That would explain why he refers to him as "Reclaimer" (sort of).

  • 06.26.2012 7:59 AM PDT

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  • 06.26.2012 9:43 AM PDT

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  • 06.26.2012 10:13 AM PDT

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The whole situation on Requiem is bizarre. As for the Didact being the antagonist, a few things to keep in mind. His symbol has been altered and is in an "unbound" state when it is flipped upside-down. What does this mean? Nobody knows for sure. But he is allegedly inside a Crpytum and seemed to not perceive Chief as a threat.

After everything said about him in the books, it just wouldn't feel right for him to be "evil". As for the Promethean AIs, they could just be acting defensively, the Onyx Sentinels acted the same way.

  • 06.26.2012 10:24 AM PDT

Prometheans are mutated Forerunner Warrior-servants :X. Those things we saw in the gameplay trailer are defence AIs for Requiem, most likely to help the Prometheans to clear enemies, since the Prometheans arent countless to go around the planet every time someone gets in. Also, those AIs could be there to prevent Prometheans from being injured.

  • 06.26.2012 10:26 AM PDT

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Posted by: Luffy_299
Prometheans are mutated Forerunner Warrior-servants :X. Those things we saw in the gameplay trailer are defence AIs for Requiem, most likely to help the Prometheans to clear enemies, since the Prometheans arent countless to go around the planet every time someone gets in. Also, those AIs could be there to prevent Prometheans from being injured.
The things in the Halo 4 demo were Prometheans.

  • 06.26.2012 10:43 AM PDT


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Posted by: Luffy_299
Prometheans are mutated Forerunner Warrior-servants :X. Those things we saw in the gameplay trailer are defence AIs for Requiem, most likely to help the Prometheans to clear enemies, since the Prometheans arent countless to go around the planet every time someone gets in. Also, those AIs could be there to prevent Prometheans from being injured.
The things in the Halo 4 demo were Prometheans.

http://www.halopedian.com/Promethean_Knight

Talking about these, arent you? These are just defence AIs

  • 06.26.2012 10:46 AM PDT
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  • 06.26.2012 1:50 PM PDT
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I'm gonna finish it. Just like Jigga did to the pyramid.

-Prometheans were an elite group from the Warrior-servant tier of forerunner society. What we saw in the trailer would have been AIs they constructed.

  • 06.26.2012 2:53 PM PDT

Frankie said that the Ancient Evil has not been revealed yet, so the Prometheans are not representativ of the villain. This to me suggests the villain is so powerful that it can't be fought directly, like the Precursors.

  • 06.26.2012 4:14 PM PDT

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I posted this on another, similar thread. See what you guys think of it:

I think the Didact, and whatever Forerunners we might encounter, will only be enemies for the first game (Halo 4), or for part of the first game. Then we'll be introduced to the "real" threat, which will unite the covenant, humans, and Forerunners. Maybe the Precursors, who've come to judge humanity again? I dunno, this is just my far out theory, and the way I'd like the game to go, because I can't really see why we'd be fighting Forerunners, or Forerunner machines, again.

[Edited on 06.27.2012 12:43 PM PDT]

  • 06.27.2012 12:43 PM PDT
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His symbol wasn't altered, they actually look nothing like.

http://www.forwarduntodawn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/mys tery.png

Tell me that either that is the new retconned Didact symbol, or that is someone else, probably Faber IMO.

  • 06.28.2012 12:41 AM PDT


Posted by: Quantam
His symbol wasn't altered, they actually look nothing like.

http://www.forwarduntodawn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/mys tery.png

Tell me that either that is the new retconned Didact symbol, or that is someone else, probably Faber IMO.


They've both got a hexagonal center, they both have two extending arms, they've both got a underscore under the hexagon, and both are encircled. The only differences are slight, such as the arms being fully extended, the center's filled in, and it's upside down. All those differences aside, it has the exact same silhouette as the Didact's Terminal symbol. It could just be a different interpretation of Didact's symbol, to better fit with the stoney imagery we first saw it in. Or this could all suggest a direct relationship with Didact; as many have said, the inversion could represent an "anti-Didact" so to speak.

  • 06.28.2012 8:35 AM PDT

Is it possible that Promethean Knights were once sentient beings? Prometheans immortalized like 343 Guilty Spark and the other Installation monitors?

  • 06.28.2012 12:06 PM PDT


Posted by: MisterBraz
Is it possible that Promethean Knights were once sentient beings? Prometheans immortalized like 343 Guilty Spark and the other Installation monitors?



That was my first thought, which would explain the fairly biological appearance underneath the armor, such as the skull and blood.

  • 06.28.2012 2:44 PM PDT

Oh my God... there must only be a few people on this thread that read the books and invest in the universe. The Prometheans were the highest rate of the Warrior Servant class in the Forerunner eccumene and were lead by the Didact. Basically, Didact=General and Prometheans=Marines. Practically everything points to the Didact. The books, the CEA terminals, everything. As for the symbol differences, not sure where the other comes from, but if it means anything it could be a difference between the original Didact and Bornstellar, which I highly doubt. As those who read cryptum and primordium know, the original Didact, who has now basically taken over Bornstellars conscious, had contempt for humans, even referring to them as "pets." Though he did have respect for his enemies such as with the Lord of Admirals, there was still some negative feelings. Probably the biggest fact that could make him a plausible enemy is when the prisoner of Charum Hakkor told him that the Forerunners were not worthy of The Mantle and it is now humanities turn to be tested of worthiness through the flood. Even the Halo 3 terminals shows that he held strongly to The Mantle so his making of John-117 an enemy could be to test if Humanity truly is strong enough to hold the mantle.

  • 07.03.2012 7:48 PM PDT


Posted by: Mufafa
Oh my God... there must only be a few people on this thread that read the books and invest in the universe. The Prometheans were the highest rate of the Warrior Servant class in the Forerunner eccumene and were lead by the Didact. Basically, Didact=General and Prometheans=Marines. Practically everything points to the Didact. The books, the CEA terminals, everything. As for the symbol differences, not sure where the other comes from, but if it means anything it could be a difference between the original Didact and Bornstellar, which I highly doubt. As those who read cryptum and primordium know, the original Didact, who has now basically taken over Bornstellars conscious, had contempt for humans, even referring to them as "pets." Though he did have respect for his enemies such as with the Lord of Admirals, there was still some negative feelings. Probably the biggest fact that could make him a plausible enemy is when the prisoner of Charum Hakkor told him that the Forerunners were not worthy of The Mantle and it is now humanities turn to be tested of worthiness through the flood. Even the Halo 3 terminals shows that he held strongly to The Mantle so his making of John-117 an enemy could be to test if Humanity truly is strong enough to hold the mantle.


And the cyborg-like creatures in Halo 4 are referred to as Prometheans, in that they are servants of the Promethean order. We are all well aware of the Didact's standing as a Promethean and what they are.

And I'd say that the Promethean Forerunners are more Spartan than Marine.

[Edited on 07.03.2012 8:07 PM PDT]

  • 07.03.2012 8:06 PM PDT

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  • 07.03.2012 9:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
The whole situation on Requiem is bizarre. As for the Didact being the antagonist, a few things to keep in mind. His symbol has been altered and is in an "unbound" state when it is flipped upside-down. What does this mean? Nobody knows for sure. But he is allegedly inside a Crpytum and seemed to not perceive Chief as a threat.

After everything said about him in the books, it just wouldn't feel right for him to be "evil". As for the Promethean AIs, they could just be acting defensively, the Onyx Sentinels acted the same way.


He may not be definitively evil. He may not be evil at all, his morality is different than ours.

  • 07.04.2012 3:19 AM PDT

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