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Subject: Could it be??? THE ELITES ARE THE FORERUNNER???
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That can be true!!!

I have deduced (or think I have) why Halo has a deep religious significance to the Covenant, more accurately, the Elites. The symbols on Halo are the same style as those on the Gold Elites back. I think that the Elites bay be the Forerunner, or the Forerunner are the ancestors of the Elite species. This little paragraph may prove it's right!!

And the documentary from the bungie top story...they show for a few seconds...a bunch of aliens in a row....THEY LOOK LIKE ELITES....perhaps they are the forerunner after all...

what you think?

  • 06.12.2006 7:11 AM PDT
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The Elites and Prophets were fighting, they were massacring each other and the Prophets found evidence of the Great Journey and Forerunner. This offered salvation and peace, naturally they both agreed upon finding the Great Journey.

Naturally, as worship, the Elites and Prophets adorned themselves with Forerunner symbols and technology. It is an almost unanimous decision that the aliens in a row are Brutes aswell - nothing special in the least.

Check the top story on rampancy.net if you think they are more than that.

  • 06.12.2006 7:19 AM PDT

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where'd u read this from?

  • 06.12.2006 7:19 AM PDT
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where'd u read this from?
Ahh.....H.B.O?

  • 06.12.2006 7:22 AM PDT
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Sorry if elites were forrunners 343 Guilty Spark would have chose one of them instead of cheif to get the index and he wouldnt call us reclamers. Sorry dude elites arnt forerunners. i think we are the forerunner ancestors.

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  • 06.12.2006 7:26 AM PDT
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maybe the reason they have the logo on is because they worship them

maybe the demon is the forerunner

  • 06.12.2006 7:29 AM PDT

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Besides all of the other people rebukkes...

its a somewhat anti-climactic story wrap up...i highly doubt bungie would do something like that...

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Posted by: Marines
That can be true!!!

I have deduced (or think I have) why Halo has a deep religious significance to the Covenant, more accurately, the Elites. The symbols on Halo are the same style as those on the Gold Elites back. I think that the Elites bay be the Forerunner, or the Forerunner are the ancestors of the Elite species. This little paragraph may prove it's right!!

And the documentary from the bungie top story...they show for a few seconds...a bunch of aliens in a row....THEY LOOK LIKE ELITES....perhaps they are the forerunner after all...

what you think?


"I think that the Elites bay be the Forerunner" wow this sounds proffesional... "bay be?"

  • 06.12.2006 8:05 AM PDT

-blam!- Rage

OMG, quit cloging up the fourm, go to the threads of intrest and in there it says, General Halo 3 Ideas. Quit trying to be the best and posting in front everyone, you are just ruining other topics and clogging the forum up so that people who just posted A GOOD TOPIC, there thread moves down. STOP and leave us alone. PLEASE

[Edited on 6/12/2006]

  • 06.12.2006 8:09 AM PDT

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Posted by: Marines
That can be true!!!

I have deduced (or think I have) why Halo has a deep religious significance to the Covenant, more accurately, the Elites. The symbols on Halo are the same style as those on the Gold Elites back. I think that the Elites bay be the Forerunner, or the Forerunner are the ancestors of the Elite species. This little paragraph may prove it's right!!

And the documentary from the bungie top story...they show for a few seconds...a bunch of aliens in a row....THEY LOOK LIKE ELITES....perhaps they are the forerunner after all...

what you think?


"I think that the Elites bay be the Forerunner" wow this sounds proffesional... "bay be?"


Yes, very proffesional. Maybe you should stick to improving your own grammar/spelling instead of criticizing others'.

Anyways, I think the Forerunners are dead. 343 said at the end of Halo 2 that the rings were activated, and the Forerunners died. Unless they're hiding somewhere?

  • 06.12.2006 8:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: Marines
That can be true!!!

I have deduced (or think I have) why Halo has a deep religious significance to the Covenant, more accurately, the Elites. The symbols on Halo are the same style as those on the Gold Elites back. I think that the Elites bay be the Forerunner, or the Forerunner are the ancestors of the Elite species. This little paragraph may prove it's right!!

And the documentary from the bungie top story...they show for a few seconds...a bunch of aliens in a row....THEY LOOK LIKE ELITES....perhaps they are the forerunner after all...

what you think?


"I think that the Elites bay be the Forerunner" wow this sounds proffesional... "bay be?"


Proffesional indeed.

  • 06.12.2006 8:14 AM PDT
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Posted by: grunt pimpa
and those were grunts you blind ass.

Ooh, ouch. Since when do Grunts have heads the shape of giant pickles? They look much more like deformed Elites. But that's not the point.

The point is that it "can" be true. Everything can at this point. We'll just have to brace ourselves and expect the unexpected. It's much more plausible, still, that humans are the decendants of the Forerunner.

Actually, if I was Bungie... I'd probably leave it the way it is. No more talk about the Forerunners. Let people believe what they want, and leave the insecure forever in doubt.

That sounds like their style.

  • 06.12.2006 8:23 AM PDT
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OMG, quit cloging up the fourm, go to the threads of intrest and in there it says, General Halo 3 Ideas. Quit trying to be the best and posting in front everyone, you are just ruining other topics and clogging the forum up so that people who just posted A GOOD TOPIC, there thread moves down. STOP and leave us alone. PLEASE


First of all, shut up. He has the right to post on this forum.
Second, he isn't trying to be the best poster.
Third, you're ruining the forums right now by trying to kill off peoples ideas.

Now to my main post:
The Elites could be the forerunners, [b]could be[/], since there is no hardcore evidence pointing towards the humans as being the forerunners. There are strong hints that they are though, but nothing might be true at all. I suppose all questions will be answered when Halo 3 comes out.

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  • 06.12.2006 8:23 AM PDT

If you take some time, read the books, finish the campaign, watched the Halo 3 trailer, and think logically it might (to me at least) seam that elites are not the Forrunner; the humans are. What I have figured out a few things.

Note: This is just was I have concluded.

A: Why on the last level in the H2 campaign does Tartarus not just put the Index into the control panel himself, he forces Miranda Keys (Human) to do it. This, I believe, is because since the Forrunner were humans they felt more secure making it so no other race could activate the Halos.

B: At some point in one of the games, the monitor states that the Halos had only been activated once. I think that the Forunner were actually humans that had been in existence much, much longer than us and therefore were much more advanced. That explains how the rings were created with technology beyond ours.

"So how are we here"? you ask. Well, a bit of our DNA survived, possibly just a few atoms. Over the course of billions of years, we re-evolved.

C: The oracle continues to call Master Cheif (Human) the "Reclaimer". If you read The Flood (a more thourough description of Halo 1) in the Library, Cheif sees a fallen marine(human), the monitor tells Cheif that this RECLAIMER was "less equiped to fight the flood."
All reclaimers were HUMANS.

D: After you deactivate the Halo in H2 it sends off a signal. When the arbiter asks the monitor whats happening, he finds out that all the rings are now in standby and can all be activated from THE ARC. Now we are never told where this arc is, but, in the Halo 3 trailer, what do you think is happening? That big thing in the Sahara is a Haloand mabey also the Arc. Think about it, where better/ safer to put the Arc and a Halo than where it's easiest to access by humans; Earth, our home planet.

E: This I realized while watching a video on IGN. Halos are what? RINGS. and what is the "imaginrary" ring around the Earth called? The Equator. And what two thing just happen to be pretty close to the equator? The Sahara (where cheif sees the arc which is send off a reply signal) and the major city thatthe Covenant have been concentrating on: New Mombasa(could New Mombassa be where the Arc is).


Thanks for reading.

  • 06.12.2006 8:28 AM PDT
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...only in The Flood

Grunts are forerunners! Duh! Why does nobody see this? [/sarcasm] No dude, if anyone, it is most likely humans that are forerunners, but I'm still pretty sceptical of that theory.

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A: Why on the last level in the H2 campaign does Tartarus not just put the Index into the control panel himself, he forces Miranda Keys (Human) to do it. This, I believe, is because since the Forrunner were humans they felt more secure making it so no other race could activate the Halos.

Miranda was the one who retrieved the Index, only the reclaimer can use the Index when activating the Halos.

B: At some point in one of the games, the monitor states that the Halos had only been activated once. I think that the Forunner were actually humans that had been in existence much, much longer than us and therefore were much more advanced. That explains how the rings were created with technology beyond ours.

"So how are we here"? you ask. Well, a bit of our DNA survived, possibly just a few atoms. Over the course of billions of years, we re-evolved.


How could it be billions of years ago? In Halo 2 in the level Quarantine Zone, when you come out of the vent shaft it says 100,000 years war. Also the sentinals would have started to fight the Flood right after the Halos were activated to fight the flood when they're weak. 100,000 years isn't very much time by evolution standards.

C: The oracle continues to call Master Cheif (Human) the "Reclaimer". If you read The Flood (a more thourough description of Halo 1) in the Library, Cheif sees a fallen marine(human), the monitor tells Cheif that this RECLAIMER was "less equiped to fight the flood."
All reclaimers were HUMANS.


Anybody who is going to retrieve the Index is called a Reclaimer, as in they have to reclaim the Index and use it to activate the Halos.

D: After you deactivate the Halo in H2 it sends off a signal. When the arbiter asks the monitor whats happening, he finds out that all the rings are now in standby and can all be activated from THE ARC. Now we are never told where this arc is, but, in the Halo 3 trailer, what do you think is happening? That big thing in the Sahara is a Haloand mabey also the Arc. Think about it, where better/ safer to put the Arc and a Halo than where it's easiest to access by humans; Earth, our home planet.

Good point.

E: This I realized while watching a video on IGN. Halos are what? RINGS. and what is the "imaginrary" ring around the Earth called? The Equator. And what two thing just happen to be pretty close to the equator? The Sahara (where cheif sees the arc which is send off a reply signal) and the major city thatthe Covenant have been concentrating on: New Mombasa(could New Mombassa be where the Arc is).

That's also I good point I don't see a way to counter.


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When the Game refer's to the 100,000 year's war it doesnt mean that the war was 100,000 years ago but that the war lasted 100,000 years...If I'm not mistakin 343 Guilty Spark states when the halo's were last fired...not sure though.

  • 06.12.2006 10:36 AM PDT
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nah i think the forerunners are just forerunners and the elites are just elites. Two different species.

  • 06.12.2006 10:45 AM PDT
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No, the elites have the same symbols because they copy the Forerunners, because the Forerunners are practicly gods to the Covenant.

  • 06.12.2006 10:46 AM PDT
Subject: Could it be??? THE ELITES ARE THE FORERUNNER???
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in the books it states that the fore runners created the flood to fight the covenant so the covent cant be the forerunners if the forerunners were fighting them

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I have one reason to say that the none of the Covenant are Forerunners and that humans are, in fact, forerunner ancestors.

Look at the construction style. The Covenant have smooth, curvy, decorative structures. The covenant are very appearance conscious. Humans on the other hand focus on effeciency and effectivenss. They may have some decorative qualities, but most of the human structures are composed of hard angles and flat surfaces.

Then we hve forerunner structures. The only round structure is the Halo ring. But everything on that was boxy, anglular, and flat. Does anyone see a similarity?

Also, 343 even had an armor rating for the humans, which is somewhat strange. He rated a normal humans kevlar armor at a 1 and MC's higher (dont remember). Does that explain anything? Maybe the Forerunners had thier own Spartans? Or their military WAS Spartans.

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in the books it states that the fore runners created the flood to fight the covenant so the covent cant be the forerunners if the forerunners were fighting them


The books NEVER Said that. The Forerunners were studying the flood, not creating it.

  • 06.12.2006 11:09 AM PDT
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Posted by: DRAGON avp
in the books it states that the fore runners created the flood to fight the covenant so the covent cant be the forerunners if the forerunners were fighting them

Does it?

Ultima geek, I'm agree with you, apart from I think you mean descendants not ancestors unless you're going to try and tye in some time travel theory(please don't).

  • 06.12.2006 11:12 AM PDT

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